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Discussion in 'Diablo 2 Community Forum' started by fishsticks, Jun 18, 2005.

  1. fishsticks

    fishsticks Banned

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    upped hoz

    uhhh i upped my 185 hoz yesterday when i saw the result
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    the defense was 490....

    bug??
    n is there to degrade my hoz??

    thx
    -fishsticks
     
  2. CameronFoster

    CameronFoster Diabloii.Net Member

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    Gilded Shield: 144-168 Defense

    Zakarum Shield: 169-193 Defense

    I do believe that when you find a unique item (ie your hoz) its base defense
    is perfect.

    When you upgrade an item, the new defense is random (ranging from 169-193)

    I could see that there would be little or no change, but what exactly happened with your Hoz. I didn't quite understand your post.

    Could you please list starting Defense and also Final defense.

    Thanks

    ~CF
     
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    Leohappy Diabloii.Net Member

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    Yes it's a known bug with upgrading armors of any sort. Basically, when you upgrade, the base def of the item will get rerolled using stats from new item type (upgraded armor doesn't retain max base def when upped).

    Ex.:
    Normal HoZ is Gilded Shield with base def 144-168 (actually max def is used here)
    Upped HoZ is Zakarum Shield with base def 169-193 (yes, this defense range is used here!!)

    So if you upgrade your HoZ, there's a possibility you won't get any improvement at all, only requirements will increase.

    It's even worse with ethereal armor, because upgraded eth armor actually uses base def of non eth armor!!

    And no, once upped, there's no way to degrade your HoZ :(.
     
  4. Sharaz

    Sharaz Diabloii.Net Member

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    but doesnt smite dmg take the gilded amount?
     
  5. CameronFoster

    CameronFoster Diabloii.Net Member

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    No, everything on the shield (Defense, Durability, Damage etc) are converted to the elite item. That is why Upgraded Hoz's are a must for a smiter.

    ~CF
     
  6. Sharaz

    Sharaz Diabloii.Net Member

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    haha, oops, i did *mean* to say zakarum shield, not gilded. :)
     
  7. fishsticks

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    i don't remember wut i started with... i think it was like 480 or 490
    after i upped it its now 490....

    (this was the first hoz i found too :(:(:(:()

    o well.....
    thx for the replys guys

    -fishsticks
     
  8. krischan

    krischan Europe Trade Moderator

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    Items with %def have perfect base defense +1, but upon upgrading, it gets a random base defense. Anyway, your HoZ can't become worse - see Cameron's posting. The main point of upgrading a HoZ is getting a far greater smite damage which isn't very useful for anybody but a smiter. For example, a zealot only uses smite because it always hits. That will result into a greater number of successful crushing blows versus monsters with lots of life, like Baal.
     
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    oscarmk1 Diabloii.Net Member

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    Yeah a lot of ppl dont realize it but upped hoz with less defense>>>> non upped hoz with more defense, this is because the smite damage on the shield doubles.
     

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