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Upgrade this vapire gaze?

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by leetserv, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. leetserv

    leetserv IncGamers Member

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    Upgrade this vapire gaze?

    Etheral, 378 def.
    7% mana steal (irrelevant)
    8% life steal (Max)
    20% Damage reduction (Max)
    10 Magic reduction (Min)


    Using this on my merc now. Is it worth upgrading?
     
  2. krischan

    krischan Europe Trade Moderator

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    IMO Vampire Gaze is not worth upgrading. It has a 45% chance to end up with less defense than before (126 base defense versus 100-157). Its reqs will go up to L70 and str 106 which is a problem for a mid level merc - only the level req, of course.
     
  3. leetserv

    leetserv IncGamers Member

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    I see. Thanks.

    I thought maybe the item "remembered" how good a roll it was and ended up with an equally good roll when upped.
     
  4. helvete

    helvete IncGamers Member

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    Items with %enhanced defense never "roll" base defense, it is set to max+1 at spawning. However, when upgrading, the base defense is now a new item, which has a defense with a range.

    Basically, when checking if upgrading is worthwile:
    -check if you get added benefits besides defense from changing the base item (block, more belt slots)
    -check what requirements will be
    -check the base defense of your current item
    -check the minimum base defense of the target item. If little difference, then it is a risk you will not gain much.
    -check the max base defense of the target item. If this is very much higher, then the risk is usually worth taking.

    some items can get lower defense, like HoZ, Gaze, etc. These are not worth upping.
    Some items get more block, or more belt slots, crystal swords and dimensional blades will get indestructible when upped to phase blade, etc.
     
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    Merick IncGamers Member

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    HoZ is worth upping if you want to smite with it ;)
     
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    helvete IncGamers Member

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    Yes, I forgot the smite damage. That is one of the non defense related reasons to upgrade. No one in their right mind up a hoz for defense.
     
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    Defense of HoZ can't get lower when upp'ed. In worst case scenario, the defense will stay the same. Arreat's Face can get lower defense when upp'ed. Similar to getting higher smite damage, Gore Rider is typically upp'ed for kickers to get higher kick damage.
     

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