The only way its possible to get a defense drop i if its ethereal. Non eth will never lose def - worst case is they stay the same.RetroStar said:Atleast you didn't get a defense drop like my friend when he upgraded it.
Arreats not mentioned in the thread - yes it can get lower - HoZ cannot.RetroStar said:I don't believe that applies to arreat face since the EDef% gap is so big. I remember his arreat face came out with a crappier defense.
Well max you can get as increase is 72 on a perfect roll on a 200% hoz. So i guess average increase is about half that or below.Redman681 said:So getting a crummy defense increase is somewhat common?