Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

[LarryPaul]

Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

Hi there, I recently found this funny little axe, and I simply cannot figure out why it stays as low a rlvl as it does.

[img=http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9797/unavngivetpc3.th.jpg]

I've been looking at affix calculators to no help at all.
It is a cool looking weapon though

 

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

I'm too lazy to work it out for you, but it's just a combination of one prefix and one suffix:

Prefix:
6 Poison-Damage over 2 Seconds (Rlvl = 1)
12 Poison-Damage over 3 Seconds (Rlvl = 7)
80 Poison-Damage over 4 Seconds (Rlvl = 15)
150 Poison-Damage over 5 Seconds (Rlvl = 26)

Suffix:
1 Poison-Damage over 2 Seconds (Rlvl = 1)
7 Poison-Damage over 3 Seconds (Rlvl = 3)
21 Poison-Damage over 4 Seconds (Rlvl = 11)
50 Poison-Damage over 5 Seconds (Rlvl = 18)
100 Poison-Damage over 6 Seconds (Rlvl = 25)

As you can see, there is no Rlvl here greater than 30.

 

[LarryPaul]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

Thanks for the tablet!
It still doesn't make sense to me though.
I guess I'm just lacking basic affix/suffix knowledge.

 

[sirpoopsalot]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

Speaking of lazy, I've never gotten around to understanding precisely how two (or more) poison damages combine together but I do know the damages don't just add together.

So taking the "biggest" prefix (150 Poison-Damage over 5 Seconds) and suffix (100 Poison-Damage over 6 Seconds) from OMG's list and putting them on the same weapon will not produce 250 poison damage... it produces more than that.

There's a guide (or 15) around here that explains how multiple poison damages are calculated, but of course I can't find it at the moment.


Sidenote: I think that maybe I've read that poison durations DO add together for certain things, which could create your 11 second duration... but I could be wrong.

 

[krischan]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

If an item has more than one poison affix, the damage per second is added together and dealt over the sum of durations. In your case it's a combination of the highest prefix and the highest suffix.

Total duration: 11s
Total damage: (150/5+100/6)*11=513 (see below)

The game makes the damage calculation in frames (1/25 sec) and rounds down here and there, so the result is usually off a small bit.

 

[LarryPaul]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

If an item has more than one poison affix, the damage per second is added together and dealt over the sum of durations. In your case it's a combination of the highest prefix and the highest suffix.

Total duration: 11s
Total damage: (150/5+100/6)*11=513 (see below)

The game makes the damage calculation in frames (1/25 sec) and rounds down here and there, so the result is usually off a small bit.

That was very helpful. Math usually kicks me in the grown every time I try to understand it, but this is very well written.

Thanks!

A little OT in my own thread: Do you know if it has any practical value?

 

[onderduiker]

Re: Unreal Poisen Damage - How?

That rare Throwing Axe has spawned with the Toxic prefix and Anthrax suffix, and the total poison damage and length is calculated as krischan stated (at least for a single item with more than one affix). However, just as length is calculated using a more precise unit of measurement (1 frame = 1/25 second), so is damage (1 bit = 1/256 hit point). Poison damage consists of a bit rate and a frame length:

AFFIX     BIT  RATE   FRAMES
          Min   Max
____________________________
TOXIC     308   308      125
ANTHRAX   171   171      150
----------------------------
TOTAL     479   479      275

Thus 515 (479 * 275/256) Poison Damage Over 11 (275/25) Seconds is displayed. Displayed damage is rounded to the nearest whole number for items, although it should be rounded down: a monster with 515 hit points wouldn't be killed by that damage (although it would be reduced to 115 bits, a fraction of a hit point).