Ultimate PVP helm...

Snarlin Stef

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Ultimate PVP helm...

i was thinking that the ultimate pvp helm is the heavens brethren set spired helm

10% to cast weaken seems godly to me. you can even add to this with soul drainer gloves you get 18 % to cast... that is almost guarnatee to trigger in a duel.

lowering the enmy dmg by 33% is effectively raising your life by 33%. no? if you have 50% DR and then enemy does 33% less dmg.. you have **% DR no?

what are your opnions on this helm.
thnx
stef
 

Halciet

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It's an interesting thought, but it's hard to beat the all around mods on arreat's....the 40 stat points it saves you can give you a good 280+ life after BO if you pump them into vit, plus it has great defense, +2/+2t skills, the ar boost, the leech, and the massive resists.

Not to mention the weaken won't trigger on whirlwind, so it's no good for that =/. It'd have to be conc/frenzy/berserk only.

-Hal
 

ploof

Diabloii.Net Member
Halciet said:
Not to mention the weaken won't trigger on whirlwind, so it's no good for that =/. It'd have to be conc/frenzy/berserk only.

-Hal
and since apparently ww is the only option really left to a barb who wants to reliably take down his opponent (at least in pub games..) that pretty much means that weaken is out...

you could always stick a pul in it for 30% def :evil:
 

shade449

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ploof said:
and since apparently ww is the only option really left to a barb who wants to reliably take down his opponent (at least in pub games..) that pretty much means that weaken is out...

you could always stick a pul in it for 30% def :evil:
I dunno I heard that conc barbs were good in melee duels. Course if its pubby itll be like 5 vs 1 with tele bone necros and hammerdins everywhere :rant:
 

Snarlin Stef

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maybe not for barbs.. but for chars like pallys or zons... who knows... im gonna play around with it a bit.

thnx
stef
 

DhR_PvP

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Halciet said:
It's an interesting thought, but it's hard to beat the all around mods on arreat's....the 40 stat points it saves you can give you a good 280+ life after BO if you pump them into vit, plus it has great defense, +2/+2t skills, the ar boost, the leech, and the massive resists.

Not to mention the weaken won't trigger on whirlwind, so it's no good for that =/. It'd have to be conc/frenzy/berserk only.

-Hal

280 life would be like a lvl one bo but with any maxed bo you will get over 320
 

Halciet

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DhR_PvP said:
280 life would be like a lvl one bo but with any maxed bo you will get over 320
Aye, I just calculated for around level 15 or so BO; I have no idea why I did that (probably because I was looking at my new barb's totals, and thought I was logged on with the old barb, lol).

-Hal
 

FattyMcGee

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Snarlin Stef said:
lowering the enmy dmg by 33% is effectively raising your life by 33%. no? if you have 50% DR and then enemy does 33% less dmg.. you have **% DR no?

thnx
stef

sry, no. here's an example:

say someone does 100 dmg to you after 17% pvp penalty. if weaken is on them, they'll only be doing 67 dmg. after 50% dr, that's 33.5 damage. So its' not **% DR.... more like 66.5% DR.

Not bad, to raise your DR 16.5% above the limit. however, hal's right it can't go off using ww. Also, you can always just get wands with weaken charges if you want to cast it that badly. No point in giving up arreats for it

--fatty
 

squigipapa

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Plus, I dont think that the "chance to cast" mods from both items stack, meaning that you'd have 10% chance then 18% chance or whatever it is .. I may be wrong but I diden't think "chance to cast" stacked.
 

m1rage

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For a barb this helm isn't all too worthwhile. Why wouldn't you just use warcry and get a free -def bonus along with the -dmg?
 

shade449

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FattyMcGee said:
sry, no. here's an example:

say someone does 100 dmg to you after 17% pvp penalty. if weaken is on them, they'll only be doing 67 dmg. after 50% dr, that's 33.5 damage. So its' not **% DR.... more like 66.5% DR.

Not bad, to raise your DR 16.5% above the limit. however, hal's right it can't go off using ww. Also, you can always just get wands with weaken charges if you want to cast it that badly. No point in giving up arreats for it

--fatty
What the pvp penalty is 17%? I thought all damage in pvp was reduced to 1/6 of its damage. Are you sure about that?
 

Snarlin Stef

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shade449 said:
What the pvp penalty is 17%? I thought all damage in pvp was reduced to 1/6 of its damage. Are you sure about that?
17% x 6 = 102%
hence 17% = 1/6

you know how to convert fractions into % right? ;)
i guess if you REALLY wanted to get technical... 16.667% = 1/6

thnx
stef
 
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