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Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by jread, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. jread

    jread IncGamers Member

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    Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    What gear/skills would you use for a necro solely running Hell Baal runs?

    Right now I'm using a summoner and he does OK, but it seems that maybe there are areas where I could use some improvement. For instance, CE works GREAT for clearing the waves, but waiting for an army to kill Baal is a true test of patience, even with my hoss-daddy merc (might merc with eth fort, botd, guilliame's face w/ias jewel).

    I'm thinking that maybe I would only use my merc and a clay golem, and no skellies as they tend to make the waves scatter all over the screen. As far as skills, I'm thinking max CE for sure, but maybe a bone spell (spirit or spear) for blasting Baal.

    I don't know... just trying to see what I can come up with. Any suggestions are welcome :)
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    Necros are just kind of slow at taking down bosses. Do you have an Enigma? Minion stacking helps. Also, are you using Clay Golem and Decrepify on Baal? Doing so will stop him from summoning a clone and teleporting most of the time.

    On my summoner, I make a bone wall fence around the area the waves spawn, keeps them contained.

    A bone necro isn't going to be much faster against bosses, and is more gear dependent. Poison necros are good as well, but still rely mostly on merc to kill bosses.
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    botd doesn't have any crushing blow, try Hone Sundan or Obedience.

    Also, make an IK Maul Iron Golem.
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    Summoner with high level CE will still be the best for doing Baal runs. You won't get any faster than that for the minion waves.

    Switch out the BOTD for Obedience, you'll kill baal WAY faster. I had a might merc w/ Obedience + guillame's for my chaos running necro last ladder season. He would kill big D faster than my friend's decked-out hammerdin. Hone Sundan with shaels works well too... it's really nice if you get an eth upped one. Don't go with a bone spell just for baal - it won't be very effective, I promise.

    If you don't have enigma, then an easy way to minion stack is to create a tp right next to baal then go in & back out of it. That way your skeles, merc & gumby will be right on top of him. If you do have tele, just telestomp, decrep or amp, and watch the high CB merc do his thing!



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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    Yes CE works very effectively in big crowds but you need to amp minions first.
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    Excellent suggestions so far! Thanks to all of you!

    I'd never really looked at Obedience before, but it has very nice mods. My concern is that if I use it with Guillame's Face, where am I going to get my life leech? To me, a mercenary must have life leech to have any chance of surviving.

    The Hone Sundan looks great as well, and I like that it has sockets so I could add Shaels and an Amn for life leech. The only issue I see with it is that the damage is pretty low?

    I do use Enigma and I also use the Clay Golem/Decrepify combo on Baal. This combination definitely slows him down, but it does take forever to watch my merc chip away at him with the BotD.

    In the end, how should I gear my merc? I think the Eth Fortitude is a definite, but should I use Guillame's or Andy's helm? And should I use Obedience or the Hone Sundan (with what sockets)?

    Thanks again for the advice so far... it definitely helps :)
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    I guess that is the trade-off that you have to make. A merc needs max resists and leech, but then what. With fort and botd you were maxing damage. Against act bosses, crushing blow is more important.

    There are a lot of good setups that have leech, resists, damage and cb:
    Treachery - Andy's (Ral) - Obedience
    Chains of Honor - Infinity - Guillame's Face
    Duress - Hone Sundan - G Face

    Depending on wealth and balancing damage vs. crushing blow vs. survivability there are many good choices. Personally though I don't like wasting ebuged fort on a might merc, that armor screams for a defiance merc (which works better on a sorc or hdin).
     
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    Re: Ultimate Baal Runner setup?

    Well, sir, I must say that I truly owe you one!

    I spent the night obtaining the gear for the Chains of Honor/Infinity/Guillame's Face (socketed with IAS jewel) setup and, while my merc only does 1/3 of the damage he did before, he kills twice as fast (maybe 3-4 times as fast when it comes to Baal). He is absolutely unstoppable now, and the conviction aura is a big help as well.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I think we have a winner here when it comes to the ultimate Baal-Runner necro setup :)



     
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