Uber issues Probably more than 80% of ppl that will see this are going to "LMAO n00b!" or something like that, but here we go: I started this thread related to Uber Tristram because I wasn't especially satisfied with what I found on the forum and on the internet. First I would like to say that I'm a normal player. I just re-started to play a couple of months ago, and I started from scratch. I don't play 24/7... this would be my "definition of normal". Now about the Ubers and Uber Tristram. I read a lot about the quest and everything, and that you need the keys and all that, so in theory I know how to get there even if I haven't found any keys yet (I haven't looked for them either). So my first question would be: Is it really unheard of to play "self-found" and be able to finish the game (PvM) and do Uber Tristram (PvU)? I say this because from reading guides and seeing videos in youtube it seems that Enigma, CTA, and Death are the most common (if not the only) options to use in Uber Tristram. Also you need Anni, and Pally torch (ironic, isn't it?). Now if you play self-found (cause you just started) there's very slim chance to get any of Mal, Ist, Ohm, Jah, Ber, Hel, Vex, or Gul. Not to mention all of them so you can make those rwords. Also probably no anni and definetly no Torch. Apparently the most popular class to do Uber tristram is Smiter, but they seem to require BO and Teleport (which really really troubles me) I checked the paladin guide for Uber tristram, and it seemed that I would never be able to follow it. So, is there any other guide with more "reasonable" equipment (likely to be found) requirements that can possibly do the ubers? I know another alternative would be partying, but the stakes are higher if there are more ppl involved (only one toch drop...) Thanks in advance!