Twin mats! I've just matted my re-starting characters - two hybrid girls, a zon and a sorc :jig:. Their objective was to become mfers, and in their own fashion they did it. Elaine the sorc: A Blizzard/Nova sorceress, wearing Tal's set (all but the armor), Vipermagi, Spirit Shield (and without a wink of +str equip too! But it looks so juicy for a nova caster), magefists, mf rings and rare mf boots. Helm and armor carry a PTopaz. Skills (at level 79): Blizzard: 20 (26) Ice Blast: 20 (26) Ice Bolt: 4 (10) Cold Mastery: 9 (17) Nova: 20 (26) L.Mastery: 14 (22) static, teleport, warmth, tk, f.nova, g.spike: 1 point This set-up gives her 2k blizzard, 1k nova and the 105 fcr break. But it's not enough to do her job. I picked Nova instead of Fireball to kill better under 2 circumstances (that I kind of loathed last time I took d2 up): to run the countess and to easily dispatch baal's second wave. In that, it worked. They fall like cutted grass under my lightning schyte. It's oblivion knights and cold-immune witches in the wsk and chaos sanctuary that don't. That means that she's a good countess/andy/meph runner, and I think that when I get a decent stick on her merc she may run baal (not the whole wsk for she wouldn't last a second). Or maybe not. But Meph is getting repetitive anyway :tongue: Her biggest finds? Amulets. She's found an highlords and her Tasha's amulet! and most of my other stuff too... rop: Talia the fishy-zon: LF/FA zon, wearing a ravenfrost, razortail belt (thank you skal!), peace curiass armor, lore circlet, aldur's boots and magnus skin, with a titan's and eld-socketed withan's guard on the java switch. For the bow side there's a wizendraw! Her stats are standard - 129 str with titan's, dex for max block, vita the rest, and for skills it's 5 points in pierce (enough for 100% with the bow switch), 1 in decoy, max cs, lf, frost arrow and frozen arrow at 20 with +skills (work in progress) There's been a moment when she was trying to take up a spirit shield, just like the sorc... but while that one had an hundred or so unspent points, she didn't. It was for the better - she tried, around act 1 hell, to skip points in dex, losing her max block but gaining the spirit. It was suicidal, so I eld-ed the shield and never looked back... at those tasty 2 skills... and resistances... Now she's running the places Elaine can't - the sanctuary, the wsk and the cow level. She's good at those (and great with cows)... but her mf isn't up to the job. In fact her best drop has been an ethereal ettin axe in the cow level, that's making me think of starting hf rushing. That will be my next objective: to find an effective way of twink/rush or whatever my way to the hellforge. The first step? Building an enchantress!