Try metalgrid!! Well sure a few of you studied the mods of the 'new' unique items, and I think I was not the only one who wondered why the metalgrid amu had that high of a level requirement - its stats seemed to be pretty average (+attack rating, +resists, a few apparently useless charges of useless spells...). When ladder 1.10 started one of my first pala builds was a thornadin (ok this one is very unpopular, but it has always been...). A few days ago I gambled metalgrid from Gheed! And I must say whatever melee pvp class I curse with Iron Maiden is no match! Sure you noticed HOW many chargers seem to have 'found' zod and usually they are proud if they can kill you with their (obviously) duped BotD hammers. I was in a duel game where one of these dupers charged whoever dueled him to death, and he enjoyed writing 'noob', 'lol' ... you know ... into the chat window. Well I managed to cast level 13 iron maiden (this charge that seems to be useless on metalgrid) right before he charged my thornadin (you know thornadins have plenty of life, mine has 3k and it is technically not possible to kill him in one hit even with BotD, so he will always be able to reflect melee damage). Ok, his thorns level is 32, and he also uses the Spirit Of Barbs from his wisp projector to reflect even more damage, but it was somewhat funny to own this unsympathetic duper. In fact, since my thorner wears metalgrid he has lost no match to any melee class, especially whirlers kill themselves with whirlwind + iron maiden + spirit of barbs + thorns lvl 32 immediately. It is pretty impossible for my thorner, though, to stand a chance against casters or bowazons (he invested most stat points into vitality, so his dexterity is too low to block guided arrow for example), and though the conviction+FOH+max Holy Shock combo kills most unexperienced duelers he can't kill sorc, necros or amas with stacked light resists. Is there a more versatile way to deal with ranged or spell casting characters with my thornadin? Suggestions are welcome, because IF there is a really good way to deal with ranged attackers a thornadin with metalgrid could become a pretty popular (close to invincible) pvp pala subclass. Charge? Fana+Widow Maker? Please help with tactics that worked for your palas.