Treasure Drops

Bolinbrooke

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Treasure Drops

Can a Random Unique Boss drop/spawn items that the standard version of that monster cannot drop?
 

Vorbiss

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If I understand your question, the answer is yes, there are. For example th normal monsters in any 85 lvl are can't drop Tyrael's Might/Azurewrath/Crown of Ages/Arachnid's Mesh/few others I can't remember right now(due to qlvl of the item > mlvl of the monsters there(85)), while the boss monsters in those areas are able to drop virtually every item in the game. :)
Hope I understand what you wanted to ask! :teeth:
 

factotum

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I believe random unique bosses get a +3 to their Mlvl compared to a normal critter of the same type, which is why level 85 areas are so often run; random bosses there get an Mlvl of **, which as Vorbiss correctly says is high enough to drop anything in the game!
 

Randall

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I am not 100% sure, but I think there is a bit more.

the monster/area level first decides which treasure class can fall.

But before a unique can be made of it the qlvl (compared to monster/area level) requirement has to be fullfilled as well.

And some monsters/areas allow treasure classes but do not allow the unique versions of all the base items in the treasure classes. That's where the failed uniques come from.

Randall
 

Joutaja

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If some monster in some area can drop up to TC84 and I then encounter a Boss pack of the same monster type on the same area, can that boss and/or his minions drop up to TC87?
 

Thrugg

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Joutaja, possibly, but it depends.
There is no direct link between mlvl and TC, although the numbers run very close so people do tend to assume they are the same thing.
But +3 mlvl does not automatically mean +3 TC.
Example, being eg mlvl 80 lets a normal monster drop up to TC78, while a boss in the same area would be mlvl 83 and able to drop TC87 (a big difference). But at the same time a normal monster of mlvl 76 can drop TC75, while his boss at mlvl 79 can only just drop TC78.

It's complicated. But a general rule of thumb is that random bosses (and their minions) can drop about a TC higher than the rest of the level.
 
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