Trapsin Setup, Check please Breakpoints etc.

Arbedark

Arbedark

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Trapsin Setup, Check please Breakpoints etc.

Okies, here's my setup for a Trapsin. Pretty sure i've managed to hit most of the BP's which i'll need etc.

Items:

Helm: Griffons "Cham" (I know it doesnt work with traps)
Amulet: Mara's
Armour: Enigma
Rings: 2 x SoJ
Gloves: Trangs Gloves
Boots: Waterwalk? (Maybe rares with res, fhr, frw etc)
Belt: Arach
Weapon Switch 1 (Caster opponents): +3 Traps Blade Talon with 40% ias inherent, socketed with Shael and Res/Ias jewel, Second Claw: +3 Traps, +3 LS (Unknown sockets)
Weapon Switch 2 (Melee opponents) : Hoto and Stormshield (With BoS it hits 9 frame trap laying)
Weapon Switch 3: CTA Etheral Flail with Lidless (Spirit Monarch once ladder ends)

1 Anni

10 Traps GC's (4 x FHR to get 48% bp, 6 x Life)


Skills:

Fire Blast: 6
Shock Web: 20
CBS: 20
LS: 20
Death Sentry: 20

CM: 1
BoS: 3 (level 16 with HotO switch, 0 Ias needed for 9 frame trap laying)
Fade: 1
Weapon Block: 1 (51% with claw switch)
Psychic Hammer: 1
CoS: 1
SW: 1
MB: 1
SM: 5 (level 17 with CTA switch)


Level 46 Traps with Claws
Level 43 Traps with HotO switch

51% PDR vs Melee opponents with Ber'd Storm and HotO - Using BoS
75% All res, 51% chance to block vs Casters - Stacking res comes from use of charms - Using Fade

Claw Setup hits 65% fcr bp
HotO setup hits 105% fcr bp


Couple of Questions. Should i max dex to get 75% block with the Storm, or just leave it at base?

Can anyone see anything majorly wrong with my setup?


Cheers.





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firstnamedereklastnamedoo

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i never invested in block because the majority of pvp damage comes from elements, id just tank life, personally i never did. the griffons will help if you can hit people with your shock web, i think you might need a higher lvl bos to hit 9 frame trap lay with hoto. Dual claws are generally better at defensive, your mb and tele will be slow so that build isnt exactly suited for being offensive,
 
Arbedark

Arbedark

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firstnamedereklastnamedoo said:
i never invested in block because the majority of pvp damage comes from elements, id just tank life, personally i never did. the griffons will help if you can hit people with your shock web, i think you might need a higher lvl bos to hit 9 frame trap lay with hoto. Dual claws are generally better at defensive, your mb and tele will be slow so that build isnt exactly suited for being offensive,
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Did you actually check anything?

Level 16 BoS needed for 9 frame traps with HotO - Check

11 Frame Tele with Claws - Check
10 Frame Tele with HotO - Check

Griffons is for 25% fcr, so i can use a mara's instead (I prefer the Griff Mara combo, as althought i lose 1 level of traps, i gain 3 to BO, and Tele)




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Speederländer

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Arbedark said:
Okies, here's my setup for a Trapsin. Pretty sure i've managed to hit most of the BP's which i'll need etc.

Items:

Helm: Griffons "Cham" (I know it doesnt work with traps)
Amulet: Mara's
Armour: Enigma
Rings: 2 x SoJ
Gloves: Trangs Gloves
Boots: Waterwalk? (Maybe rares with res, fhr, frw etc)
Belt: Arach
Weapon Switch 1 (Caster opponents): +3 Traps Blade Talon with 40% ias inherent, socketed with Shael and Res/Ias jewel, Second Claw: +3 Traps, +3 LS (Unknown sockets)
Weapon Switch 2 (Melee opponents) : Hoto and Stormshield (With BoS it hits 9 frame trap laying)
Weapon Switch 3: CTA Etheral Flail with Lidless (Spirit Monarch once ladder ends)

1 Anni

10 Traps GC's (4 x FHR to get 48% bp, 6 x Life)


Skills:

Fire Blast: 6
Shock Web: 20
CBS: 20
LS: 20
Death Sentry: 20

CM: 1
BoS: 3 (level 16 with HotO switch, 0 Ias needed for 9 frame trap laying)
Fade: 1
Weapon Block: 1 (51% with claw switch)
Psychic Hammer: 1
CoS: 1
SW: 1
MB: 1
SM: 5 (level 17 with CTA switch)


Level 46 Traps with Claws
Level 43 Traps with HotO switch

51% PDR vs Melee opponents with Ber'd Storm and HotO - Using BoS
75% All res, 51% chance to block vs Casters - Stacking res comes from use of charms - Using Fade

Claw Setup hits 65% fcr bp
HotO setup hits 105% fcr bp


Couple of Questions. Should i max dex to get 75% block with the Storm, or just leave it at base?

Can anyone see anything majorly wrong with my setup?


Cheers.

Arb
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Your FCR BP's are fine.

What did you make your hoto in?
What is the second claw? Can't figure final speed w/o that info.

Your call on the dex. If it was me, I would go claw-claw always. But that's me. There's something to be said for 75% block vs. BvC and the like. Not many people do it though. I think because most barbs suck vs. good trappers.
 
Arbedark

Arbedark

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Cheers for some input Speed.

Haven't got the second claw yet. But i didnt think trap laying speed was affected by that. But since I am wrong, could you please explain it so I don't waste any Sockets on getting the required 9 frame trap laying.

HotO is in a Flail.

I'm just mainly going for dual claw vs Casters, and HotO/Storm vs Melee. But looking at it, 50% pdr is going to be virtually as effective as 51% Block with claw block. I just figured the extra frame tele would be helful against public BvC's etc.


Derek, well according to the Ias Tables at the top here it says that level 16 BoS is needed for 9 frame traps with a base weapon speed of -10 and no outside IAS. So therefore I was originally right in my assumption. If you could give some evidence for level 21 BoS needed that would be great :thumbsup:




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Speederländer

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The claw speed you use on look-up on the tables in the sticky up top is an average of the two claws you equip, assuming you equip them properly in the right order.

So, if I use a runic (-30) on primary and a feral (-20) on secondary, I would use -25 as my base look-up speed. Keep in mind, IAS on the secondary is useless and has no impact on speed calcs.
 
Arbedark

Arbedark

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Ok. I understand the Claw Speed thing (i think). I'd need a set of Greater Talons for my Secondary claw in order to balance stats used with sockets used to get 9 frame trap laying.

Could someone please inform me which is correct for the 9 frame trap laying with HotO. Level 16 BoS or level 21 BoS. The tables stickied at the top here say 16, while the link derek gave say's 21. And i'd just like to know which is more accurate.


Cheers




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Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
Arbedark said:
Ok. I understand the Claw Speed thing (i think). I'd need a set of Greater Talons for my Secondary claw in order to balance stats used with sockets used to get 9 frame trap laying.

Could someone please inform me which is correct for the 9 frame trap laying with HotO. Level 16 BoS or level 21 BoS. The tables stickied at the top here say 16, while the link derek gave say's 21. And i'd just like to know which is more accurate.


Cheers

Arb
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The tables here are VERY accurate. It should be level 16. You can double check. One frame trap speed difference is observable. Cast at 16, then at 21. Do you see a difference? Convince yourself.
 
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