Trapper problem

Hartside

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Trapper problem

Hi guys yet another pvp problem . Recently I've become good freinds with a 102 fcr trapper . How I met him was disturbing he 5-0 me in a public game . Well manored nice guy now with 90 light res tngs and forti on , 86 fhr breakpoint I couldn't move , unlike most assassins which I normally beat reasonably easily ( in pub duels assassins don't take offence ) this guy is very skilled he uses a combanation of wof mb and ls . Wof I think is base point just for stun any ideas guys . And I treid to poison the shadow but I littarelly couldn't move ^^
 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

Yer but he qiuckly reaplies mb wof ls each time I wsg I duelled with him for 2 hours and never seen him lose once . Including bvcs hammerdins other trappers and a couple of necros . He is definatly stopping on my f l ^^ but I hate losing , he has good skills and plays his char amazingly well. Even when people absorbed him it just took longer for him to kill them
 

IMCL85

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Re: Trapper problem

Yer but he qiuckly reaplies mb wof ls each time I wsg I duelled with him for 2 hours and never seen him lose once . Including bvcs hammerdins other trappers and a couple of necros . He is definatly stopping on my f l ^^ but I hate losing , he has good skills and plays his char amazingly well. Even when people absorbed him it just took longer for him to kill them
:eek: whats kind of sin is ur friend if its just trap, there is no way godly sorber bvc/bva would get pwned. I have seem some *** fock bva just stand there out sorbing all the trap from useless trap sin and laught at them. :whistling:



 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

Well I've got 90 light res tngs on and over 8 k life he kills me pretty qiuck 14 k ls dam hurts me badly sure if I put 2 wisps on i'd be ok but I tested with him and put an 18 % wisp on with 90 res with tngs on I still died a horrible death . Mind blast must be maxed becuase it was taking a little life aswell
 

IMCL85

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Re: Trapper problem

Well I've got 90 light res tngs on and over 8 k life he kills me pretty qiuck 14 k ls dam hurts me badly sure if I put 2 wisps on i'd be ok but I tested with him and put an 18 % wisp on with 90 res with tngs on I still died a horrible death . Mind blast must be maxed becuase it was taking a little life aswell
next time try 2x 20% wisp, Lo what ever helm u have, fort and tgod. If u want to be even more bm put on Lightsabre, now this is totaly rigged I dont recommand u doing it(her LS is now healing u). Also u would need extra 30%lighning resis charm, cause after u die the anya quest 30% all resis acturally goes away for some reason. And next time when dueling sin just use bva ss(ber)+enigma would totally negate her mb damage, they do way better job again sin then druid if u want a anti trap sin char which I think most windy would have one of these handy just incase of nk and bm. :alright:



 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

I know I can beat him if I totally bm him but as he says go at start of a duel and is now on my f l I don't want to over abs . And my char has enough stacked res to negate anya bug . Only thing I think might work is run oppersite direction and try to catch him when he lands after a teleport but I hate running away , I hate having to walk away after I infect smiters sigh but it's a necessary evil ;(
 

SeCKSEgai

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Re: Trapper problem

There's a reason why trappers are considered top tier duelers ;)

I really am disappointed to see a BM suggestion as a solution -

@OP - you could ask your new friend if he wouldn't mind fighting you will full sorb gear on, but even if you win, it's not a victory I would take much pride in.

You do have to be willing to be evasive if he manages to get the drop on you. If direct confrontation is a losing battle, don't be afraid to slap your foe with damage over time and evade as the damage ticks.
 

IMCL85

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Re: Trapper problem

There's a reason why trappers are considered top tier duelers ;)

I really am disappointed to see a BM suggestion as a solution -

@OP - you could ask your new friend if he wouldn't mind fighting you will full sorb gear on, but even if you win, it's not a victory I would take much pride in.

You do have to be willing to be evasive if he manages to get the drop on you. If direct confrontation is a losing battle, don't be afraid to slap your foe with damage over time and evade as the damage ticks.
nah its not a bm suggestion, beating 102 fcr trapsin with a werewolf druid is a bit imba. So some sorb should definately be aloud in this duel. Since it require the druid run next to the sin and attack her, which really not gonna happen with out some kind of sorb. like it or not it sorb is a must in these kind of duel. Its just nessecary evil or u die, skill have nothing to do in here. your werewolf druid just simply cant get close enought to even launch a bite on the sin before u get pwn by ls/wof and mb. Another good example would be bone nec vs werewolf, which lol in my opinion next to impossible if the nec dont use golem which what all skillful nec would do again fury/rabie druid. :coffee:



 

SeCKSEgai

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Re: Trapper problem

One piece of sorb is fine. It hadn't clicked that he wasn't a windy even tho the rabies should have given it away.

One piece of sorb per element is all fine and dandy gm wise.

Honestly I'm doubtful even with full sorb it wouldn't be a bit of a draw since the trapper could evade or mb until it got pointless to keep fighting.


I'm actually surprised the OP beats many trappers pretty easily considering the uphill battle between stunlock and mobility. Then again, trappers (sins in general) are hotkey intensive so less experienced sins fall prey.

Necros are the other top tier dueler that comes to mind, and yes, they are quite mean. I can't think of a build better suited for pvp - the mobility and magic damage alone is why they can handle anything.
 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

If the necro doesn't use prism and you have alot of frw on it certainly isn't 1 sided . And most pub trappers that use ls cast them and just run around hoping you'll die , this guy is the most skillfull trapper I've witnessed since a old freind I knew called kanazawa but that was patch 1.09 ^^ (ian come back )
 

IMCL85

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Re: Trapper problem

If the necro doesn't use prism and you have alot of frw on it certainly isn't 1 sided . And most pub trappers that use ls cast them and just run around hoping you'll die , this guy is the most skillfull trapper I've witnessed since a old freind I knew called kanazawa but that was patch 1.09 ^^ (ian come back )
But problem is most wolf druid wouldn't have a very high frw, they probably sub that to some vita charm and sh!t. But regardless a decripfy or bprism would take that away anyways. Just like me dueling runazon(bowazon), when I get extreamly annoy by the 180+ frw and dysch. I would just put on 2xdoom zrk and watch them suffer :whistling:.



 

Verashiden

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Re: Trapper problem

Are you at 86 FHR when you duel them? Too lazy to type a full response so I'll do that later >.>.
 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

Yer verash I rarely ever drop below 86 fhr I think a good trap assa is just to hard for my skill lvl and with that amount of stun off wof mb ~.but seen as I've heard you say you have a ghost you'll know all about wof stun and mb dam those little nikita chars
 

SeCKSEgai

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Re: Trapper problem

If you're rockin 86 fhr and your trapper friend can keep you locked, no matter how good you were with your druid I don't think you can win by means of game mechanics, at least GM wise.

My ghost loved rabies druids since they only beat me if I stood there and didn't press a think, or was in the middle of a duel ;)

MB, SM MBing you, wof lock well as is, throw in some LS =)

It really shouldn't be a skill level issue as more of inherent weakness. If you're taking down most trappers, that's pretty impressive as on my trapper I rarely had to do more than lay down some LS and teleport around until I got a good name lock. I wasn't exceptionally good with my trapper as she was pvm focused and rarely challenged even then. Get someone who can efficiently go throw their LS, MB, WoF, FB etc, they can take on anything gm.

If you manage to catch most trappers and finish them off, my props to you for doing it with a rabies druid for sure.
 

Verashiden

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Re: Trapper problem

Hmm, how'd I duel Trappers...

For the LOL bad ones I simply keep moving. The last thing you want is to be surrounded by traps. The ones that don't mix WoF in are easier because you can force the traps onto a linear area and walk around them. I believe I had a FRW circlet in stash to help a bit as well.

Good ones are a bad day >.>. I'd charge Feral on random things outside town and the desynch help if they weren't expecting it or playing super defensively. However, WoF stun is damn near impossible to beat on a Wolf.
 

Hartside

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Re: Trapper problem

[email protected] sass ^^ vs assassins is always hard fade is the main problem they have stack nearly bye nature . Which means I generally bite master or assa with rabies for a small dot then fury the crap out of them when they start recasting traps . Vs assa I never drop below 80 frw that's still with highlords and jalals on and 90 res . But I guess I've just met my first skilled trapper . In pubs I've only been Beaton bye a handfull of ghosts to but I guess off my trapper freind they are bad players ~ hope I never meet a gg ghost in pubs lol
 

minuses

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Re: Trapper problem

Well I was wondering the same thing. What gear would a wolf use vs sin? I believe you need to use an ss setup in case they ww you. Yes you are right you will need 86% fhr bp for this duel. I would suggest keeping your distance and try to find a way to get closer to them so you can fury them. They got less block than other blocker characters anyways but still very tough battle.
 
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