Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

[mysticc]

Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

I have made an infinity this season and I just found another ethereal thresher. I cubed it and got 4 sockets. Yay! (I think it's 1 in 6 chance)

Anyway, I'd like to trade this for Lo rune. Or if you have a good archon fortitude, I can add to make up the cost of the armor and the quality of the roll.

 

[XxIbitsxX]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

Mysticc ~

I am interested, but can't offer as high as Lo. If no one else gets you an offer and you would consider it letting it go for less, let's work out a trade ^^.

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

Mysticc ~

I am interested, but can't offer as high as Lo. If no one else gets you an offer and you would consider it letting it go for less, let's work out a trade ^^.

What do you have mind?

I mention Lo because this has traded on JSP for 15fg, which is the same price as Lo (so I am not entirely insane or anything for asking for Lo).

I guess the lowest I'd go is ohm+gul or something like that... but that's only if nobody offered a Lo after a significant amount of time.

This is pretty rare imo. Out of all the elite polarms, thresher and giant thresher are the only good ones worth using. Then you need to spawn eth. Then on top of that, you need 0 or 4 sockets, which is 1 in 6 chance to get 4os (assume they are all equal). If you get 0 sockets, you get a 1 in X chance to get 4 sockets by using the cube recipe (which is what I did)... otherwise 1 to 3 sockets are all useless and 5 sockets can only be used to make Obedience. So yeah, it's frustrating to get this On top of this, every account needs at least one of these, making it quite in demand

 

[XxIbitsxX]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher



I understand the rarity - and it certainly is a choice item. I've never been on the JSP forums myself, though I know of them. It just seems like a complicated mess to me, what with all this "forum gold" and stuff. I'm not a very tech-saavy person, and this (these forums) were enough for me. (They seem a lot friendlier than JSP as well).

Anyway, ramblings aside, I'm sort of in the market for any ethereal 4 socket, regardless of attack speed / strength requirements. I have a CV at the moment that my merc is using, but I'd really like an eth something-or-other.

So with that in mind and with deals I've seen go on in these forums / in BNet and the fact that I'm not so rich that I can just throw runes at my problems, I'd maybe offer about 2-ist? That or if your looking for anything in particular I have a FT thread.

Item trades are very subjective, I've noticed. Actual "statistical" rarity can or cannot correlate to price. But my all means, get the highest price you can! Perhaps I was just hoping for too much ~

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

I don't think I can let this go for 2ist. That's just too low, sorry. If I made a game for even an ohm, it would probably be traded in about 2 mins :/ 2x ist is less than half of the minimal value I could get for the eth thresher.

Rarity has something to do with price, but so does usefulness. Infinity and Insight are some of the most wanted merc runewords in the whole game, and they are harder to find good bases for than runewords like enigma. In fact, almost every character uses them. Thresher is particularly nice because it has low requirements to equip, thus giving a lot more helm and armor options to the merc. You don't have to wait until level 85 (holy crap!) just to use your infinity like you would with a cv. It is also the easiest weapon to reach the highest ias breakpoint with, thus giving you more attacks per second and more leeched life to keep your merc alive. Some elite polearms are just disastrous to use (cryptic axe, looking at you). Thresher > cv by a long shot (not to mention less common).

Due to its usefulness, rarity and high demand, the price is appropriate. But I didn't make up this price - this is the going price for such a weapon, or around this price. All the ethereal elite polearms are NOT priced equally.

If you don't care what elite polearm you get, then by all means, get an eth cv. They are cheaper. But if you don't want to waste your 2x Ber and other higher runes on a junky base, then you should get an eth thresher. Why work so hard to get 2x Ber just to put them in a cv for? Seems like such a waste...

For merc runewords, Thresher and Giant Thresher are what you want to use. In the same way you'd want an Archon Plate to make an Enigma, Chains of Honor or Fortitude (for the 0 speed and stamina penalty, and awesome defense vs. requirement ratio), you'll want a Thresher to make an Infinity or Insight for similar reasons (attacks per second, low requirements, etc.). It's really that clear and simple.

 

[Petzl]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

If you were to take ists how many would you want? I'm just trying to guage how far off I am in getting the two Ber's if I get this off you.

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

If you were to take ists how many would you want? I'm just trying to guage how far off I am in getting the two Ber's if I get this off you.

I go by the same rune structure that many people go by here:

Mal: 4 Points
Ist: 8 Points
Gul: 12 Points
Vex: 24 Points
Ohm: 40 Points
Lo: 72 Points
Sur: 40 Points
Ber: 80 Points
Jah: 80 Points
Cham: 24 Points

So I guess 72/8 = 9 ists. If I had a really hard time selling, 6-7 ists is what I would take at the minimum. I could eventually use it for another character, so I want to the actual value. I don't really want to discount it.

 

[Petzl]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

Well that might be a little bit out fo my price range at this point, I need to work on getting the Ber's first and then go from there. Most I could offer at this point safely would be between 4-5 Ist's. I've had no luck getting high runes since coming back a vex, sur, ohm are my highest finds. And they aren't two high in the point system so boohoo I guess ay?

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

I can't let it got for 4-5 ists. Truly sorry. Eth CV is more in your range. It's much cheaper and much more common.

 

[unknownko]

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mysticc @ your eth thresher is seriously overprice. Could you please stop citing the prices on JSP to be fair with all of us here, anyway it's considered illegal on this forum. FYI. the prices of a 4os eth thresher that much, even on jsp anymore. i'd reckon it's worth approx 5Ist-Ohm/Sur.

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

mysticc @ your eth thresher is seriously overprice. Could you please stop citing the prices on JSP to be fair with all of us here, anyway it's considered illegal on this forum. FYI. the prices of a 4os eth thresher that much, even on jsp anymore. i'd reckon it's worth approx 5Ist-Ohm/Sur.

1. Stop hijacking my threads.

2. You're wrong. If my eth thresher was only worth what you say it is, then why do eth cv insights (where the runes are all extremely low and common) trade for 3-5 ists? Eth cv's are junk, and everyone and their mom has one. The same goes for eth ca's.

Everyone is trading their eth cv's, yet you don't see eth threshers and eth giant theshers very often. I wonder why that is? Hrmm... Could it be that they are rarer? Could it be that once people have one, they have no desire to trade it because they want to use it? And oh, it turns out that by using the ias calculator, the thresher is a lot better too! It seems that the d2 team made the rarer bases better.

If the eth cv's can get 4-5 ists, then mine should get a lot more. Of course, there are a lot of people on battle.net that know this as well and would not trade it for such a low amount.

Your only goal here is to hijack the thread and diminish the value I can get for my items. What an evil thing to do.

 

[MasterYi]

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I'm not sure but I think you're following the wrong prices. It's not the first time either. An eth cv with four sockets itself is worth <= mal. A good insight in an eth cv is worth an ist. A 35fcr monarch is in itself worth an ist; they're pretty similar in their makeup: they use low runes, and have a "hard to find" item base. I follow the LoD Ladder trading channel to learn of prices and as a result I can assert that this is truer. Researching information via the internet does not work well for Diablo because prices do change. The prices you have found are likely old information. It's like me finding a source that is trying to trade a Ber rune for a Mal rune. Would you do that trade anymore? Edit: Perhaps an even better example is when a rich man from Diablo is trading a Ber for 5 specific low (REALLY low) runes. I am pretty sure that this should not implicate that those low runes together are worth a Ber... (this actually happened for a friend of mine)

I also notice that you like to use a lot of fallacies to try and persuade people into following along with your trade. I know, you're just trying to gain more profit for your items. Nothing wrong with that concept, but it does have its limits. Going overboard is just a scam. Regardless, you still got your Lo for this item. 'grats.

 

[mysticc]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

The price check I got for this item is recent. It is definitely 6-7 ists minimum and Lo is the maximum price. I am a capitalist, so it's obviously in my best interest to try and get Lo first, and if I can't, get 6-7 ists. They are still trading at this price.

Obviously there are fluctuations in the market.

The problem is that mal/ist is lower in value, not the items. Because of up'd rune drops... do we really expect our currency to stay the same? It makes sense that as ber gets more common, the need for socketables goes up, not down.

This trend can be seen from last ladder season. Jah/ber originally worth a ton. Socketables, even the best, were not worth nearly as much as Jah or Ber. But eventually as the ladder season went on, Jah/Ber was incredibly common and the socketables themselves were worth many hrs.

I'm not wrong. My price check is recent.

 

[MasterYi]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

I don't think I will dispute the price - I do not know it. Personally I wouldn't even pay more than an ist for such a thing. You saying the price check is recent and definite is sort of not too helpful in asserting the price you are looking for. It's a lot of self assertions, and if not self assertions then it is a "proof by erasure." A single p/c sometimes isn't even enough to prove something. To add to it, even though certain runes are becoming increasingly popular, it does not always implicate that other runes decrease in value. The economy stabilizes at some point. I'll stop here, though. I'm sorry for taking your time. Good luck!

 

[KaytieKat]

Re: Trading Ethereal 4 socket thresher

Hi

I have to kinda agree this is waaay over priced. As an example the europe 8 ladder price guide has eth 4 sock threshers going for 2 ists.

Now eth thresher insights CAN go at much higher but that's depending on if it gets a high roll or not. And in my experience it usually takes a perfect roll to get the real high prices.

That seems to be for just about anything. Even slightly less than perfect can have a huge price drop off.

Kaytie

 

[mysticc]

Well, obviously I will not trade items like this here then. I will buy them off you though. If you have eth 4os threshers for an ist, please send me a PM. I will buy many from you. Send me all of the ethereal 4os threshers you find. Thank you.

A very interesting thread everyone should read, just for knowing about the differences between cv and thresher:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608708