[Tournament] Ability Scrolls Sept

Chaostar

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Hey everyone !

I've been thinking about some kind of tournament, and after months of hesitations and simulations, I end up with this.
I know it's a huge thing, very long term, and some rules (like game progression) may discourage a lot of players, but at least I'll give it a try myself, and your remarks and thoughs will be welcome !
I'm not found of the title, but I had to find one (new suggestions are welcome too :cool: )



Tournament Rules


Presentation

The tournament is played with a family of 7 Diablo 2 LoD characters (one of each class for a more challenging experience, or not) who progress through the game at the same speed.
Every family member starts the game with limited abilities.
As they progress in the game, they will unlock new abilities for their whole family.

The aims is to get as many patriarchs / matriarchs as possible in your family following the tournament rules, and get the most Points at the end of it (see scoring section).


General Rules

1 - LOD 1.13 / 1.14 tournament, all runewords allowed

2 - Softcore characters who retires upon first death, or Hardcore characters (though HC characters may be unable to use some Ability scrolls).

3 - Untwinkled characters : can only use items from their game (unless in-game modification). Using mule is allowed to have an extended stash, but each character may have his own mule.

4 - Replaying act is allowed under conditions, see the section below for details

5 - /players 1 (unless in-game modification)

6 - Emergency Save & Exit is not explicitly forbidden, but should be avoided. If you use it anyway, you must renter-game at the same location of your exit.


Game progression

7 - A character can start an act only if every living member of his family has also finished the previous act : for eg., no one can starts Act II Normal before every other living member of the family have killed Andariel.

8 - A character starting and act must go through the entire act without replaying areas (single pass). You can run from a WP to an uncleared area when starting a new game session. You can skip areas, you don't have to kill every monster on the map, or complete every quest, but you have to get through the act to the end before switching to another character.

9 - When a character starts an act, all previous acts are forbidden for the whole family, except to get quest rewards in town

10 - There is no particular order between characters. A player can start an act with the character he wants.

11 - Replaying Acts : Once every living family member cleared an act, and before anyone starts next act, you can chose to replay as many times as you like the act you just cleared (and this one only) with any of your character ONCE YOUR FAMILY HAS THIS ABILITY.
Replaying an act doesn't mean running the final boss or a small area over and over.
To prevent this, each replay session had an in-game cost.
Re-running characters cannot kill again final act monsters (unless in-game modification).

12 - Cow Level is considered as an optional act 6. You gain nothing by clearing this act. This one cannot be rerunned, because of game limitations (the necessity to have wirt's leg to open the level).
If a player decides to clear the cow level, he has to do it with every character, and make sure he previously saved one wirt's leg for each of his family's character.
 
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Chaostar

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Character basic abilities

13 - Each character starts the game with strictly limited abilities :
- can equip and use any normal (white), socketed or ethereal item. As long as item doesn't need to be identified to be used.
- can talk to NPC
- can repair, buy, sell or gamble items
- can drink any potion
- can use Town Portal and Identify scrolls
- can ask Cain to identify items
- can stock items in his inventory (except identified charms !), or in his stash / mule
- apply specific quest rewards including a NPC : Larzuk's socket, Name and Imbue item, drink potions, etc. EXCEPT Respec quest
- can use the horardic cube for quest purpose (staff of king, khalim's flair) and to open the Cow level

14 - So each character cannot :
- use skill points or attribute points
- equip any identified item or carry any identified charm
- can insert gems or runes into socketed items
- use the horadric cube outside quest purpose
- hire or give equipment to a mercenary
- make anything is not listed in the allowed starting abilities above


Improving Family Abilities

15 - You can improve your characters abilites during the tournament, by the mean of Ability scrolls and Wisdom Token

16 - Wisdom Token :
A player wins 3 Wisdom Token (WT) each time one of his character kills one of these Unique monsters :
The Countess, the Invocator, Stormtree, Hephasto the Armorer, Pindleskin (only the first kill).
Wisdom Token are spent to activate the effect of every Ability scroll the player owns.
Each player starts the tournament with 0 WT.
At the end of the tournament, unused WT will help to calculate the player final score

17 - Ability scrolls :
A (virtual) collection of 155 scrolls can be found in game by your characters, and used to improve all family members' abilities
Each player starts the contest with 7 ability scrolls in his stash, taken from the Starting Deck (see the Deck section)
A player gains 1 Ability Scroll each time one of his character finished an Act. This scroll is picked randomly in the Ability Scroll Deck.
An ability scroll in the player's stash has no effect. It has to be played (at the cost of Wisdom Token) to grant its effect to the family.
Each scroll is unique, so a scroll (its ID number) cannot be dropped twice BUT two scrolls can have the same description and may have a cumulative effect, so they may be both used : (for eg. Using 2 scrolls allowing to wear an unique item will allow you to wear 2 unique items)
Each scroll played is destroyed, and gives an ability to the whole family.
Once a scroll is activated, it cannot be unactivated and go back to the player's stash.

18 - Using ability scrolls :
A player can use 1 ability scroll when he wants as long as he pays its requirement, or can be saved for later use
The player use it to improve each of his characters equipment ability, skills, or attributes, following the ability sheet below.
Its effect is immediately gained by the whole family.
 

Chaostar

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Ability scrolls deck

19 - A (virtual) deck of 155 scrolls is available, scrolls 1 to 7 are part of the starting deck each player owns when starting the tournament
Their effect can be related to your family Attribute, Skills, Equipement, or affect the gameplay or even your Ability Scrolls

20 - The Staring deck :

Rich (BB code):
ID      description                                                                                                        categ        Type     WT Cost
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1       You can place attributes points in STRENGTH or DEXTERITY                                                           attr         Ability     2
2       You can place attributes points in VITALITY or ENERGY                                                              attr         Ability     2
3       You can equip 1 set item                                                                                           equip        Ability     2
4       You can equip 1 magic item                                                                                         equip        Ability     1
5       You can equip 1 rare item                                                                                          equip        Ability     2
6       Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that    
          skill by 1 tier (apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, competent up to 10, Master up to 15, Divine up to 20) skill        Ability     3
7       Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it     skill        Ability     2
 
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Chaostar

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21 - The Whole Deck
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ID Description                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Categ     Type     WT
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  1 You can place attributes points in STRENGTH or DEXTERITY                                                                                                                                                                                                            attr  Ability      2
  2 You can place attributes points in VITALITY or ENERGY                                                                                                                                                                                                               attr  Ability      2
  3 You can equip 1 set item                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           equip  Ability      2
  4 You can equip 1 magic item                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         equip  Ability      1
  5 You can equip 1 rare item                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          equip  Ability      2
  6 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, competent up to 10, Master up to 15, Divine up to 20)                                  skill  Ability      3
  7 Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it                                                                                                                                                     skill  Ability      2
  8 You can equip any unique class specific item (orb, shrunken heads, pelts, barb helms, paladin shield, katars, amazon Bows, spears and javelins)                                                                                                                    equip  Ability      3
  9 You can equip any set body armor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   equip  Ability      2
10 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
11 You can assign any number of skill points in skills unlocked at lvl 6 or before from a skill tree as soon as you have 1 maxed skill in that skill tree                                                                                                             skill  Ability      6
12 You can equip any rare weapon                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      2
13 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
14 You can equip 1 item with the ethereal property                                                                                                                                                                                                                    equip  Ability      2
15 You can equip any charm with poison resistance                                                                                                                                                                                                                     charm  Ability      3
16 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
17 You can equip your mercenary with any weapon                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gameplay  Ability      3
18 You can equip any set belt                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         equip  Ability      2
19 You can equip 1 crafted / runeword item                                                                                                                                                                                                                            equip  Ability      3
20 You can equip any item named after one of your character                                                                                                                                                                                                           equip  Ability      8
21 You can use any skill granted by an item (wand, amulet, …)                                                                                                                                                                                                         skill  Ability      1
22 You can equip 1 item with "Fast run/Walk" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                                   equip  Ability      6
23 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
24 You can equip any set ring                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         equip  Ability      2
25 You know how to insert runes, jewels or gems in items                                                                                                                                                                                                              craft  Ability      1
26 You can equip 1 item with "Increased Attack speed" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                          equip  Ability      6
27 You can get 7 Wisdom Token in town at the cost of 1 LUM Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                          special   Effect      2
28 You can equip any magic weapon                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     equip  Ability      1
29 You can equip any rare boots                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      2
30 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
31 You can equip any charm with fire resistance                                                                                                                                                                                                                       charm  Ability      3
32 Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it                                                                                                                                                     skill  Ability      2
33 You can equip 1 item with "mana leech" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      6
34 You can equip any magic ring                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      1
35 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
36 You can equip 2 more grand charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      2
37 You can equip any rare ring                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      2
38 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
39 You can respec your characters at will (tokens or quest reward)                                                                                                                                                                                                 Gameplay  Ability      9
40 You can chose to pick 2 other Ability Scrolls or 5 Wisdom Token                                                                                                                                                                                                  special   Effect      1
41 Chose one of your characters : from now, each time he kills a special monster and get Wisdom Token, he earns two extra Wisdom Token                                                                                                                              special  Ability      4
42 You can equip any magic belt                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      1
43 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
44 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
45 You can equip any magic shield                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     equip  Ability      1
46 You can equip your mercenary with any body armor                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gameplay  Ability      3
47 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
48 Resurrection : You can resurrect one of your character immediately after his death, in town, with all his stuff and abilities. He carries on his journey from the place of his death.                                                                            special   Effect      28
49 You can get 10 Wisdom Token in town at the cost of 1 PUL Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                         special   Effect      3
50 You can equip any unique ring                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      3
51 You can hire / resurect / heal a mercerary and equip him following your characters abilities                                                                                                                                                                    Gameplay  Ability      3
52 You can equip 1 crafted / runeword item                                                                                                                                                                                                                            equip  Ability      3
53 You can equip any charm with all resistance                                                                                                                                                                                                                        charm  Ability      6
54 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
55 You can equip any rare belt                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      2
56 You can equip 1 item with "+x to all skills" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                                equip  Ability      6
57 You can equip any unique belt                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      3
58 You can equip any set weapon                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      2
59 Family groth : if you have at least 1 dead char, create a new one (any class) : he must catch up with the rest of the family immediately. He starts with all family abilities. The dead character is replaced by the new one for the tournament final score.     special   Effect      21
60 You can equip any unique boots                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     equip  Ability      3
61 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
62 Mulligan : You can put back in the draw pool all your (unplayed) ability scroll in your hand and draw the same number of scroll minus 1                                                                                                                          special   Effect      3
63 You can equip any magic boots                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      1
64 Can craft Blood items                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              craft  Ability      2
65 You can replay the act you just finished at the cost of 1WT for each replay session                                                                                                                                                                             Gameplay  Ability      1
66 You can equip 1 item with "Fast cast" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      6
67 You can assign any number of skill points in skills unlocked at lvl 6 or before from a skill tree as soon as you have 1 maxed skill in that skill tree                                                                                                             skill  Ability      6
68 You can use any skill granted by an item (wand, amulet, …)                                                                                                                                                                                                         skill  Ability      1
69 You can equip any charm with cold resistance                                                                                                                                                                                                                       charm  Ability      3
70 You can equip any set amulet                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      2
71 You can use any skill granted by an item (wand, amulet, …)                                                                                                                                                                                                         skill  Ability      1
72 You can assign any number of skill points in skills unlocked at lvl 18 or before from a skill tree as soon as you have 2 maxed skill in that skill tree                                                                                                            skill  Ability      12
73 You can equip your mercenary with any helm                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Gameplay  Ability      3
74 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
75 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
76 You can replay the act you just finished at the cost of 1WT for each replay session                                                                                                                                                                             Gameplay  Ability      1
77 You can equip 2 more large charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      2
78 You can equip 2 more grand charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      2
79 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
80 Can craft Hit Power items                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          craft  Ability      2
81 You can equip any magic class specific item (orb, shrunken heads, pelts, barb helms, paladin shield, katars, amazon Bows, spears and javelins)                                                                                                                     equip  Ability      1
82 you can use any cube recipe involving runes(s), except craft formulas                                                                                                                                                                                              craft  Ability      1
83 Can craft any glove recipe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         craft  Ability      2
84 You can equip any magic amulet                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     equip  Ability      1
85 Discard a scroll in your hand, remember its WT cost : pick up new scrolls until the total amount of the picked scrolls's WT cost gets equal or becomes higher than half the discarded scroll's WT cost.                                                          special   Effect      1
86 You can equip 1 crafted / runeword item                                                                                                                                                                                                                            equip  Ability      3
87 you can use any cube recipe involving no runes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     craft  Ability      1
** You know how to insert runes, jewels or gems in items                                                                                                                                                                                                              craft  Ability      1
89 You can equip any unique weapon                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    equip  Ability      2
90 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
91 You can hire / resurect / heal a mercerary and equip him following your characters abilities                                                                                                                                                                    Gameplay  Ability      1
92 You know all runeword recipe involving runes up to SHAEL                                                                                                                                                                                                           craft  Ability      1
93 You can equip any unique helm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      3
94 You know all runeword recipe involving runes up to PUL                                                                                                                                                                                                             craft  Ability      2
95 Can craft Caster items                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             craft  Ability      2
96 Chose 1 favorite set (by character) : characters can equip any item from their favorite set                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      4
97 Can craft any amulet recipe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        craft  Ability      2
98 You can equip any rare body armor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  equip  Ability      2
99 You can give up any number of Ability Scroll and get 2 Wisdom Token by scroll (discarded Ability scrolls are destroyed)                                                                                                                                          special   Effect      1
100 You can equip any set class specific item (orb, shrunken heads, pelts, barb helms, paladin shield, katars, amazon Bows, spears and javelins)                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      2
101 You can buy 4 new ability scroll in town at the cost of 1 UM Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                     special   Effect      3
102 Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it                                                                                                                                                     skill  Ability      2
103 Can craft any belt recipe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          craft  Ability      2
104 You can equip any rare shield                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      2
105 You can use your Wisdom Token to get extra ability scroll in town at the cost of 3 WT by card (once only, 10 scrolls max.)                                                                                                                                       special   Effect      2
106 You can equip any set shield                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      2
107 You can equip any rare helm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      2
108 You can give up any number of Ability Scroll and get 2 Wisdom Token by scroll (discarded Ability scrolls are destroyed)                                                                                                                                          special   Effect      1
109 You can buy 3 new ability scroll in town at the cost of 1 HEL Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                    special   Effect      2
110 You can equip any unique body armor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                equip  Ability      3
111 You can chose to pick 3 Ability Scrolls or 16 Wisdom Token                                                                                                                                                                                                       special   Effect      4
112 You can equip 1 item with "life leech" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      6
113 You can equip 2 more small charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      2
114 When re-running an act, you can kill the final boss too                                                                                                                                                                                                         Gameplay  Ability      18
115 You can equip 1 item with "Fast hit recovery" affixe                                                                                                                                                                                                               equip  Ability      6
116 Family trade : you can get items from your other characters' mule                                                                                                                                                                                                special  Ability      15
117 You can equip any magic body armor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 equip  Ability      1
118 You know all runeword recipe involving runes up to OHM                                                                                                                                                                                                             craft  Ability      4
119 You can equip any rare class specific item (orb, shrunken heads, pelts, barb helms, paladin shield, katars, amazon Bows, spears and javelins)                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      2
120 You can equip 2 more small charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      2
121 You can equip any charm with lightning resistance                                                                                                                                                                                                                  charm  Ability      3
122 You can hire / resurect / heal a mercerary and equip him following your characters abilities                                                                                                                                                                    Gameplay  Ability      3
123 You can equip any rare amulet                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      equip  Ability      2
124 Can craft Safety items                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             craft  Ability      2
125 you can use any cube recipe involving runes(s), except craft formulas                                                                                                                                                                                              craft  Ability      1
126 Second chance : Chose one of your characters : each time he gets (only) one Ability Scroll by finishing an Act, you can use once 1 WT to redraw the scroll (discarded scroll gets back into the draw pool)                                                       special  Ability      9
127 You can assign any number of skill points in skills unlocked at lvl 6 or before from a skill tree as soon as you have 1 maxed skill in that skill tree                                                                                                             skill  Ability      6
128 You know all runeword recipe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       craft  Ability      8
129 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
130 Draw 2 Ability scrolls, plus 2 extra scrolls for each dead (and not replaced) character from your family                                                                                                                                                         special   Effect      6
131 Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it                                                                                                                                                     skill  Ability      2
132 You can buy 2 new ability scroll in town at the cost of 1 THUL Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                   special   Effect      1
133 You can equip any unique shield                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    equip  Ability      3
134 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
135 Skill improvement : Pick 1 skill (per character) you already have 1 pt invested : improve your knowledge of that skill by 1 tier (Apprentice : invest up to 5 skill points, Efficient up to 10, Skilled up to 15, Master up to 20)                                 skill  Ability      3
136 You can replay the act you just finished at the cost of 1WT for each replay session                                                                                                                                                                             Gameplay  Ability      1
137 Mulligan : You can put back in the draw pool all your (unplayed) ability scroll in your hand and draw the same number of scroll minus 1                                                                                                                          special   Effect      3
138 You can equip 1 unique item                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      4
139 Can craft any boot recipe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          craft  Ability      2
140 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
141 You can equip any set boots                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        equip  Ability      2
142 You can equip any unique amulet                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    equip  Ability      3
143 You can equip any magic helm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       equip  Ability      1
144 You can modify at will monsters' strength (access to /players command)                                                                                                                                                                                          Gameplay  Ability      3
145 You can get 15 Wisdom Token in town at the cost of 1 IST Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                         special   Effect      4
146 You can equip 3 more charms                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        charm  Ability      6
147 You can equip any set helm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         equip  Ability      2
148 you can use any cube recipe involving no runes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     craft  Ability      1
149 Mulligan : You can put back in the draw pool all your (unplayed) ability scroll in your hand and draw the same number of scroll minus 1                                                                                                                          special   Effect      3
150 You can replay the act you just finished at the cost of 1WT for each replay session                                                                                                                                                                             Gameplay  Ability      1
151 Name a class : draw 1 ability scroll for each (living or dead) character from your family who belong to this class                                                                                                                                               special   Effect      1
152 Initiation : pick 1 skill tree (per character) : You can put only 1 pt in any skill from that tree, and use it                                                                                                                                                     skill  Ability      2
153 You can get 4 Wisdom Token in town at the cost of 1 SHAEL Rune (sold to merchant, you cannot buy it back)                                                                                                                                                        special   Effect      2
154 You can equip 1 more charm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         charm  Ability      1
155 Copycat : This scroll takes the cost and effect of one scroll of your choice you already used                                                                                                                                                                    special   Effect      0
 
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Grisu

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Looking forward to see the whole deck!

Some questionst:
3 - Untwinkled characters : can only use items from their game (unless in-game modification).
[...]
5 - /players 1 (unless in-game modification)
with in-game modification you mean you can get these things through scrolls? Like a scroll with "you may play at any player setting" or "family members may share their stash"?

11 - Replaying Acts : Once every living family member cleared an act, and before anyone starts next act, you can chose to replay as many times as you like the act you just cleared (and this one only) with any of your character ONCE YOUR FAMILY HAS THIS ABILITY.
Replaying an act doesn't mean running the final boss or a small area over and over.
To prevent this, each replay session had an in-game cost.
Re-running characters cannot kill again final act monsters (unless in-game modification).
So to get this straight:
- "once your family has this ability" - so it is a scroll, I guess? Or how do you unlock this?
- "(and this one only)" - so it is only doable once throughout the whole game? Or do you mean, you have to pay the in-game cost again to rerun another Act? May multiple characters rerun the same Act?
16 - Wisdom Token :
A player wins 3 Wisdom Token (WT) each time one of his character kills one of these Unique monsters :
The Countess, the Invocator, Stormtree, Hephasto the Armorer, Pindleskin (only the first kill).
you get these WT for every character who kills said monster or once if all of your living characters have killed it?


Looks like fun and lots of thought process put into it, but also incredibly time-consuming. Not sure if I will join, because I already have 15 unfinished tournament characters...
 

zarfen

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Some really cool ideas from what I've read so far! Adding new mechanics to the game rather than just restrictions is a neat idea. Also looking forward to seeing the whole deck, hints in the info already posted makes it sound very interesting.

I also have a couple of questions:
3 - Untwinkled characters : can only use items from their game (unless in-game modification). Using mule is allowed to have an extended stash, but each character may have his own mule.
For clarity, do you mean that each character must have their own (separate) mule? That's how I understood it but better safe than sorry.

Are there any restrictions on skills granted from items with regards to unlocking skills with ability scrolls? Like +3 to raise skeleton on a wand if I don't have that skill unlocked on a necro. Or maybe even a staff with teleport charges on a non-sorc?

Maybe try over explain all ability scrolls to avoid confusion (you can try them out on me. If I understand, most people should think it's crystal clear :p)
For example, scrolls with ID 6 and 7 are very clear to me on how they apply both over the whole family and when used multiple times. On ID 1-5 it's not as clear to me. Are they for 1 character or the whole family? Does ID 1-2 open up that ability forever. Is ID3-5 bound to the item, the item slot, or the character? Ie can I change what magical item my character has equipped?

A very big project for sure! But unlike @Grisu I only have a single character since my restart, so I might be joining to have a side project from my sorc, and getting some other classes to hell (hopefully) as a bonus.

Edit: I would also require some clarification on aquiring WT's. Some examples would be nice :p
 
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Chaostar

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Thanks !
I'll answer all your legitimate question, for the whole deck, I'm working on its formatting from my excel table so that it could be readable in this forum ! I'll post it before tonight, and answer you right after.
 

Chaostar

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with in-game modification you mean you can get these things through scrolls? Like a scroll with "you may play at any player setting" or "family members may share their stash"?
Absolutely, there are scrolls affecting gameplay, see the deck section, now complete

About rerunning acts, it was one point I had doubts, it is allowed when you play the right scroll, and each time you chose to rerun an act with a player will cost you Wisdom Token (so that replaying act cannot be infinite).

you get these WT for every character who kills said monster or once if all of your living characters have killed it?
3 WT earned each time one of your character kills (on first try, not during rerun sessions) the specified monster.
So when your 7 chars have killed The Countess, you have earned 21 tokens.


Looks like fun and lots of thought process put into it, but also incredibly time-consuming. Not sure if I will join, because I already have 15 unfinished tournament characters...
Yes, that's a very long term and time consuming tournament, unless you die early :D
 

Chaostar

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Some really cool ideas from what I've read so far! Adding new mechanics to the game rather than just restrictions is a neat idea. Also looking forward to seeing the whole deck, hints in the info already posted makes it sound very interesting.
My whole point was to make the first acts tougher, to introduce some strategy, and some random action.




For clarity, do you mean that each character must have their own (separate) mule? That's how I understood it but better safe than sorry.
You can mule out / in stuff as you want (you got an infinite staff through mules), but each char got his stuff in the starting rules. No twinking or stuff exchange.
I planned to introduce stash and mule feature too, but I gave up :D


Are there any restrictions on skills granted from items with regards to unlocking skills with ability scrolls? Like +3 to raise skeleton on a wand if I don't have that skill unlocked on a necro. Or maybe even a staff with teleport charges on a non-sorc?
Now all scrolls are available, it may be more clear.
At start, you know no spell, can't play any spell, even the firebolt on the sorc starting orb.
You may use skills you learned : via Scroll #7 for instance, you can activate that scroll to get access to every spell from 1 skill branch, but with 1 invested skill point max.
You may have access to skills granted by items, from your character skill tree or not, just pick the right Ability Scroll from the pool :)


Maybe try over explain all ability scrolls to avoid confusion (you can try them out on me. If I understand, most people should think it's crystal clear :p)
For example, scrolls with ID 6 and 7 are very clear to me on how they apply both over the whole family and when used multiple times. On ID 1-5 it's not as clear to me. Are they for 1 character or the whole family? Does ID 1-2 open up that ability forever. Is ID3-5 bound to the item, the item slot, or the character? Ie can I change what magical item my character has equipped?
Abilities are unlock for the whole family as soon as you play the scroll.
There are a few exceptions, but it's just a few special effect scrolls, and it's explicitly said in the description of that spell (spell #126)
So when you play "You can equip 1 set item" :
- it applies to each one of your characters
- it doesn't rely to a specific item, of a specific item slot.
With that spell, I can wear Sigon's Sabot with the first, Tancred's Amulet with the other, and berserker hauberk with the 3rd. I can give up the hauberk to wear another set after.

I realize how confusing it may be, sorry !
I'm gonna make a little simulation to explain things better.
 
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zarfen

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My whole point was to make the first acts tougher, to introduce some strategy, and some random action.

You can mule out / in stuff as you want (you got an infinite staff through mules), but each char got his stuff in the starting rules. No twinking or stuff exchange.
I planned to introduce stash and mule feature too, but I gave up :D

Now all scrolls are available, it may be more clear.
At start, you know no spell, can't play any spell, even the firebolt on the sorc starting orb.
You may use skills you learned : via Scroll #7 for instance, you can activate that scroll to get access to every spell from 1 skill branch, but with 1 invested skill point max.
You may have access to skills granted by items, from your character skill tree or not, just pick the right Ability Scroll from the pool :)

Abilities are unlock for the whole family as soon as you play the scroll.
There are a few exceptions, but it's just a few special effect scrolls, and it's explicitly said in the description of that spell (spell #126)
So when you play "You can equip 1 set item" :
- it applies to each one of your characters
- it doesn't rely to a specific item, of a specific item slot.
With that spell, I can wear Sigon's Sabot with the first, Tancred's Amulet with the other, and berserker hauberk with the 3rd. I can give up the hauberk to wear another set after.

I realize how confusing it may be, sorry !
I'm gonna make a little simulation to explain things better.
Yeah making the first countess kill will be a tough task with no vitality and without dying. I think throwing javelins and strangling gas potions will be very useful here!

I think I understand and yes seeing the rest of the deck helps understanding. Some examples would be helpful I think(like your example with set items above), but when adding a bunch of rules/features I thinks it’s inevitable that there will be some confusing situations that will need ruling as-you-go :)

Edit: a couple more Qs: scrolls that let you buy new scrolls, means you take new random scrolls from the deck right? You don’t get to choose whichever scroll you want?

I looked 3 times now so sorry if I missed it somehow, but is there no way to be able to play at increased /players x at all?
 
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Chaostar

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Yeah making the first countess kill will be a tough task with no vitality and without dying. I think throwing javelins and strangling gas potions will be very useful here!
Don't know if this tournament is wel balanced, truly. For that part I can answer, it's possible, I already realized this to make sure it was not impossible. I didn't do it that way, even if there are not many options I guess (begin with a sorceress with zero skill and no vita may be a real challenge :cool: )


I think I understand and yes seeing the rest of the deck helps understanding. Some examples would be helpful I think(like your example with set items above), but when adding a bunch of rules/features I thinks it’s inevitable that there will be some confusing situations that will need ruling as-you-go :)

Edit: a couple more Qs: scrolls that let you buy new scrolls, means you take new random scrolls from the deck right? You don’t get to choose whichever scroll you want?

I looked 3 times now so sorry if I missed it somehow, but is there no way to be able to play at increased /players x at all?
Each time you pick a scroll, you take it randomly from the pool.

/players x is available with scroll 144 (only 1 scroll, it can be really late in the game)...
 

Grisu

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Those are some very nice scrolls you can get :)

But yeah, zarf is right - first task will be tough. Without stats/skills and only white items you have to defeat the countess in ordert to get your first three WT...so gameplay will probably be:

1. get one char to countess
2. choose basic scroll (probably 7 or 1)
3. get another char to countess
4. choose another basic scroll (e.g.6 after 7 or something like that)
5. get another character to countess
etc.

your basic scrolls are also pickable only once, I guess?

Also, it's good that we have to take random rolls on the scrolls, otherwise it would be a chore to go through all 155 to see what fits the best xD
 

Chaostar

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Those are some very nice scrolls you can get :)

But yeah, zarf is right - first task will be tough. Without stats/skills and only white items you have to defeat the countess in ordert to get your first three WT...so gameplay will probably be:

1. get one char to countess
2. choose basic scroll (probably 7 or 1)
3. get another char to countess
4. choose another basic scroll (e.g.6 after 7 or something like that)
5. get another character to countess
etc.
Wish you could :p :
"A character starting and act must go through the entire act without replaying areas (single pass). "
I realize it may be not explicit enough, but it implies you can't start the act with a character before the previous finished his act.
I must write it down in the rules.


your basic scrolls are also pickable only once, I guess?
Yes, like any other
 

Chaostar

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I swear I looked multiple times :rolleyes:

Cool stuff, so... when do we start? ;)
I started a few days ago, I wanted to test it a bit before I submit the idea here, in case it happens to be a bad idea. So you can go if you want ! :D

I fear act 2 will be really tough.
 

Grisu

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Wish you could :p :
"A character starting and act must go through the entire act without replaying areas (single pass). "
I realize it may be not explicit enough, but it implies you can't start the act with a character before the previous finished his act.
I must write it down in the rules.
Huh? That really isn't apparent from the wording. It wouldn't be replaying if I used a Barb till Countess, then started an Assassin and played till the Countess again, would it?

As far as your answer goes: so I'd first habe to defeat Andariel with character 1 in order to start Act I with character 2?
Then it is probably a really big nuisance to finish Act I - watching your merc kill everything for you... Hmm, I'm curious how your current try will be in regards to that. :)
 

zarfen

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:p
Then it is probably a really big nuisance to finish Act I - watching your merc kill everything for you...
If only you were THAT lucky :p

14 - So each character cannot :
- use skill points or attribute points
- equip any identified item or carry any identified charm
- can insert gems or runes into socketed items
- use the horadric cube outside quest purpose
- hire or give equipment to a mercenary
- make anything is not listed in the allowed starting abilities above
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Huh? That really isn't apparent from the wording. It wouldn't be replaying if I used a Barb till Countess, then started an Assassin and played till the Countess again, would it?
I agree that you should add something like "... before any other character can start the act" if that is the intention.


I started a few days ago, I wanted to test it a bit before I submit the idea here, in case it happens to be a bad idea. So you can go if you want ! :D

I fear act 2 will be really tough.
I fear act 1 will be really tough :p
 
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Grisu

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Oops, missed that part with the merc... xD well, I guess I vote for switching between characters during one Act :p
 
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