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Three greatest moments of another OTFer's country

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by krischan, Mar 20, 2015.

  1. krischan

    krischan Europe Trade Moderator

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    There's just two rules:

    1. It must be the fatherland of another OTF participant.
    2. You will speak in his/her country's favour and try not to make a point in yours.

    I'm first: USA.

    1. The founding of the USA.

    That's certainly the most important moment of the USA and a major event for the rest of the world. The foundation of the USA gave an example to the founding of a lot of other countries and it gave a lot of inspiration, in particular for Europe.

    2. Winning WW2 in Europe.

    I think that Europe wasn't able to get rid of fascism on its own at that time, in particular of the nazis. The US could have stayed out of this conflict, but they didn't. I hope that's not conceived as a matter of "praising the enemy is praising yourself" because I'm from Germany. I'm truly grateful for the US beating the crap out of the vilest scum of mankind I can think of, probably including a couple of my own ancestors.

    I was a bit unsure about putting this at #1, but without the first, the second probably wouldn't have happened.

    3. Sending a man to the moon.

    That was for eternity. This achievement wasn't really important from a position of pure reason, but even if the world forgets the importance of the first two in the future, nobody will ever forget that the first man on the moon was from the USA.
     
  2. jmervyn

    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    I felt sorry for you, Kris, so here:

    Germany.

    1. The Protestant Reformation. While not the sole venue, Germany was the epicenter of what turned back any remaining possibility of the bureaucracy-cum-theocracy which the Vatican really wishes existed today. For all the sub-morons who believe that George Bush was a theocrat or that religious morality with legal enforcement (i.e. not buying liquor on Sunday) is a horror and blight on society, you best thank Germany that you don't live in a place more resembling Saudi Arabia. At the core is the emphasis on the concept of a more intimate, personal relationship with God, rather than a series of hurtles to jump or a high-wire act.

    2. Classical music. Not a lot of composers were other than German or Austrian.

    3. Philosophy. While the ramifications of Marx and Engels' The German Ideology weighs heavily on the negative side of the balance, many of the world's other great modern philosophers come from Germany, and much of our modern thinking flows from their works (including Einstein, if you roll that way). While modern Western society stupidly embraces Eastern Mysticism and other trendy, shallow concepts, the true underpinning of the West remains rooted in German views.

    4. Space travel & engineering; a long list of "firsts". Already mentioned Einstein, and only a little kidding here:

     
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  3. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Excellent summary of some of Germany's greatest achievements/contributions.

    A solid post, in a thread in which I'd like to see many more postings :)
     
  4. jmervyn

    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    Well?

    "Deadline: Netherlands"
     
  5. krischan

    krischan Europe Trade Moderator

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    Comparisons are a bit unfair, of course. Having more inhabitants offers more opportunities for achievements.

    The Netherlands were a part of Germany until the early 17th century, so all the stuff about Charlemagne, Martin Luther etc. can be regarded as an issue of them as well. It's similar with Austria. Regarding classic music, Beethoven was 1/4 Dutch. There are more than 4 times as many Germans as Dutch, so in a certain way, a single Dutch has a greater "share" of Beethoven than a single German.
     
  6. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I said I'd like to see more posts in this thread. Not that I'd like to post in it :)

    Although I have to say, you have to admire the Netherlands for keeping its head above the water for so long.
     
  7. kestegs

    kestegs D3 Monk Moderator

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    Either jmerv can't read thread titles or he can't properly count.

    Great, now I don't know how to feel about Germany!
     
  8. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    This is reassuring.

    I was pretty sure that someone was going to have to explain to kegs what "another country" means.
    He seems to have grasped it, though!
     
  9. jmervyn

    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    You obviously confused "can't" with "doesn't care about". I suppose it's a language barrier thing.

    However, you'll note that my #4 was tongue-in-cheek and somewhat of a violation of the 'rules'; these weren't exactly 'moments'. Plus, talking about German rocketry in a favorable tone? Perhaps you didn't listen to the lyrics of the song...
     
  10. krischan

    krischan Europe Trade Moderator

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    You have to admit that he was more useful alive, however, see my #3 about the US :p.
     
  11. kestegs

    kestegs D3 Monk Moderator

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    I 'splained it to myself! I'm awesome like that!
    Must be. What language do you speak?
     
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    That of the refined intellect, of course.

    So are you volunteering to "do" the U.K., ignoring Loz' claims of American provenance?
     
  13. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    There is no doubting Merv's intellect, nor his creativity.

    He is somewhat Tolkienesque in his own way, having created a language and a mythical land with it's own rich, if slightly fantastical, history ... and he shares it all with us, unstintingly.

    All choked up here ... goat bless you Merv ... :sob:
     
  14. jmervyn

    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    No wonder John McCain called me a Hobbit.
     
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    kestegs D3 Monk Moderator

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    Of course!

    I'm not sure I could do the UK without sarcasm, although it would probably be easier than doing Australia.
     
  16. LozHinge the Unhinged

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    You have trouble doing your shoelaces without sarcasm, kegs ...
     
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    The U.K.

    1. ) LozHinge's birth place (I am almost sure it is Loz's birthplace. My memory is a little foggy, atm)
    2.) Music-- Sex Pistols, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Queen, The Cure, The Police, The Who, and (someone I know will appreciate this, even if it is just a little. ;)) Radiohead. AND SO MUCH MORE!
    3.) Literature-- Chaucer, Shakespeare, Keats, Shelley, Milton, Kipling, Hardy, Woolf, Orwell, and so many more!!
     
  18. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I'm from the USA, I only work in the UK!


    /shatnermode


    Come out of the fog, Ms Leo!
     
  19. Leopold Stotch

    Leopold Stotch IncGamers Member

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    YOU come out of the fog!! Or better yet, FIND ME!

    I knew you've been the the U.S. but I didn't think you were born here. FORGIVE ME!
     
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    Nothing to forgive - it's a completely understandable mistake made for obvious reasons.

    I think Loz was actually born in Kenya, and that he's the Manchurian OTF'er.
     

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