Thoughs on getting "hacked" from Experience. I should have been hack proof. I NEVER use third party programs and don't even go to such websites. (I did use mousepad MH back in 1.09 before I joined the forums in 2003.) Apparently my ten year old son may have downloaded a virus or perhaps I did from Limewire. I found the virus, it's called "Backdoor32" just an hour after I realized I had lost all the good gear on my main account. Here is a list just for fun. List of lost gear: Annihilus charms; 15.20.6 19.14.8 14.20.10 20.17.9 All self found when the "quest" was new. Torches. Pala; 18.17 Sorc;12.14 Sorc;17.15 Zon; 12.11 <--- well not much of a loss. Zon; 12.17 Sojs, 4 - 6 not sure. Exile shield Faith Bow a good one with +3 bow skills. CoH Enigma Four Ist Monarch Phoenix shield Infinity Pala combat skillers (5) Most with mods like Life and Hit Recover. Sorc cold skillers (2) one with HitRecover and on with about 35 life. Fire Skillers (7) some with good mods 12-28 life, some plain. HotO good one with 38-40 resists I think. Upped HoZ Beast Zerker High Gheeds. Two Spider belts, my best ones. BotD eth CB Small charm 5%HR with 11 fire resist A super good Rare Fastcast ring with good mods. A few other things I can't remember. So, how does one feel about getting all that stuff stolen I mean after all it is just ethereal bits of computer code is it not. Just intangible nothingness not connected to "real life." And thus it is; so why do so many of us feel a bit violated and discouraged when, through no real fault of our own, we loose so much or so little depending on your point of view. I cannot answer for others but only offer my own feelings and suppositions from this experience. One reason it is bothering me is because I have spent a lot of time getting those bits of computer code. Because I only play as a hobby it took months to acquire the stuff. Was it "fun" getting it? sure. It was also fun building characters to use the gear. It is funny, people say well it is just nothing anyway, why does it matter. Well, much of life is intangible, much of what we value. Reputations, love, friendships. Is the gear I lost in the same category, no, but maybe you get the idea. Find the stuff again you say. It was fun the first time it will be fun again. Maybe. A lot of "fun" things we do are fun the first time but after having had the experience we are ready to try something else now and don't really feel like going back and dong it again. An example; my son; it was a real experience having a baby and watching him grow. Do I want to do it again? In a word, No! It was fun, in some respects going through high school, do it again? No thanks. This is where it term "been there done that" comes from. What do I do now. Rebuild? How can I replace some of that stuff? Too much like "work" now to do it again. Maybe I should find a new past time, one where cretins don't break in and steal my "stuff" or if they do I have at least a chance at either recovering the stuff. I know. You all give me the stuff I 'lost." Well, no actually. Why should you. Why should I even ask. I could not take such from you guys, and gals. Now, if i was in need of basics, food and shelter perhaps, then I would accept help. even in this game I might accept "basics" but they only took the "good stuff." They did miss a +5 enchant orb (+2 all skills +3 enchant!) and an enchant Ormus! Did virus scans. Dumped the account and changed all passwords to my other accounts. I do have some remaining "wealth" so I could "buy" back some of the lost gear but I had other plans for that wealth. Go ahead and share your thoughts on how you feel about all I have written.