Things we'll never get back

[kavlor]

Things we'll never get back

One thing anyway is the gradual build up of knowledge and that feeling of discovery.Through D1 and D2-Lod people have figured things out to optimise game play wether its item hunting or speed levelling and even PvP.I predict people will have things figured out much quicker than they did in D2 and you only have to see whats happening now to know that,people analyzing every pixel of a video/picture to get information.

I think basically of you want to retain that discoverer mode you will have to stick with either solo MP or Single player because I think in MP you'll be seeing people do some fantastical things and want to figure out how they are doing it or you'll be hearing people keep talking about specific items and want to know what they are.What are your thoughts do you think Im right?

 

[NASE]

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I'll start off with single player too. You never get the first experience back.

I did plan on not getting involved in these forums too - to preserve my ignorance. Yet at this date, it seems to fail.

On the other hand, the characters proposed now aren't the ones I'll be playing, so it's that bad.

 

[chenghao]

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i want to clear the game asap , and be the 1st to reach max level :nod:

Prepares to grind for 24/7/52 :crazyeyes:

 

[Krugar]

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I do my best to filter much of the information that tries to make its way into my brain. Forum discussions that seem to go into the heart of the game (like discussing rune features or specific skills) are immediately ignored by me. There's even entire forums I rarely enter like the forums dedicated to the new classes, since I know much information is, or will eventually be, discussed in very great detail. This is an exercise I advise you, since we seem to share the same concerns, kavlor.

In another note, the game is most probably still one and a half, or even a couple of years away from being launched. I just know for a fact I'll get bored of discussing it sooner than later. This is almost certainly just a momentary interest, mostly being fed by my current unemployment status. So, I predict very soon I'll lose interest and when the game ships, it all will be a novelty.

 

[jel]

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You never get the first experience back.

I did plan on not getting involved in these forums too - to preserve my ignorance. Yet at this date, it seems to fail.

I actually agree, information sharing is only good if that information is something you can use to enhance your experience, reach your target or whatever you're seeking the information for. However it's unlikely the quality of the game will change to something better because you get all the know-hows from others, so in that essense it might be a good idea to avoid information on subjects that are meant to be for the sake of amusement.

 

[In the name of Zod]

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So you guys are saying that you are happy for that once-in-a-life-time-drop to go by without collecting it because ignorance will make the game better or something? Personally thinking back to the day when I first started playing D2 is more worrisome than gleeful for me because I'm sure there was some terrible events where I just let great stuff go by - in ignorance. Sometimes I still do it today I know. That's not good imo, information is there to make the game better.

 

[Krugar]

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Not really like that Zod. More the fact that, for some of us, exploring the game by ourselves is more appealing. Information will still exist (and just grow bigger) once the game is published. By then if (when, is the better word) we feel the need to search for it, we will do just that.

 

[stillman]

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I completely disagree with the OP; the game will actually take far longer to master compared to d2. The hints are out there, like in the gameplay video that promises 'an almost endless stream of items to find'. Look at the list of d2 items. Sure, there are plenty, but with enough time playing and looking up lists of items and mods, you eventually get exposed to almost all the items except for crazy rares. Now picture that list of d2 items and mods multiplied by 50 or something crazy. It's going to take way longer to master this stuff. Sometimes it seems like d2 doesn't have enough item types because you keep seeing the same stuff drop, but I think d3 will be radically different.

Then there's the passive skills. There are far more skills, and we can presume they are going to be better balanced than in d2 so we will want to use nearly all of them (that is, there won't be complete waste of time/useless skills, hopefully). Even if you just play a wizard for ten years, and nothing but a wizard, I'll bet none of us will have her skills figgured out.

The only thing I see as giving us an egde in mastering all to learn is the fact that we MAY have a faster, safer muling/item storage system to speed up our learning process. Still though, I truely believe it will take 15 years of playing d3 to learn it all.

 

[kavlor]

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So you guys are saying that you are happy for that once-in-a-life-time-drop to go by without collecting it because ignorance will make the game better or something

I wondered wether I had some of the unusual rares that cant drop in LOD or a classic unique but really I dont remember seeing many uniques in the early stages,in fact I probably didn't know about MF till much later on.I missed out I think more from getting into D2 later(probably a year or so after it came out).

I think though you get much more enjoyement out of making discoveries yourself and gradually adding to your base of knowledge than suddenly knowing a whole bunch of stuff at once.Things like a Druid IAS thing I discovered myself which got my brain whirring on how to expoit it.Ive figured some stuff out with Blades by playing about with suff.

I dont even generally like following other peoples guides but rather add up all my knowledge to create my own builds.I prefer trying things out to see if they work rather than people tell me it wont work as I believe you can learn other stuff along the way.

 

[GoldenBird]

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I completely disagree with the OP; the game will actually take far longer to master compared to d2. The hints are out there, like in the gameplay video that promises 'an almost endless stream of items to find'. Look at the list of d2 items. Sure, there are plenty, but with enough time playing and looking up lists of items and mods, you eventually get exposed to almost all the items except for crazy rares. Now picture that list of d2 items and mods multiplied by 50 or something crazy. It's going to take way longer to master this stuff. Sometimes it seems like d2 doesn't have enough item types because you keep seeing the same stuff drop, but I think d3 will be radically different.

Then there's the passive skills. There are far more skills, and we can presume they are going to be better balanced than in d2 so we will want to use nearly all of them (that is, there won't be complete waste of time/useless skills, hopefully). Even if you just play a wizard for ten years, and nothing but a wizard, I'll bet none of us will have her skills figgured out.

The only thing I see as giving us an egde in mastering all to learn is the fact that we MAY have a faster, safer muling/item storage system to speed up our learning process. Still though, I truely believe it will take 15 years of playing d3 to learn it all.

It may be so, but there's gonna be how many people playing? I have no exact numbers, but I'm sure it's a big one. Just looking at who is playing D2 is a fair bit. Then there are all the people that don't play D2 anymore, but will go back to D3. And there are numerous people who are preparing to play till no end when D3 comes out.

And there are people who want to figure are of that kind of stuff out, and they know what to look for, too. Quite honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there was quite a bit out in the first few months.

 

[ThomasJ]

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The first time ever playing Diablo and Diablo 2 though I am looking forward to making more memorable moments in Diablo 3.

 

[jel]

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So you guys are saying that you are happy for that once-in-a-life-time-drop to go by without collecting it because ignorance will make the game better or something?

For me, the game is about doing a quest I find logically needs to be done (that's if I was presented by the same circumstances in the real world), I don't care much if I miss some great, exciting events, if I do so, which was meant that I'd have been a part of, then it's the game company that fails, but it's not something I'll lie restless about in the night.

I think the game have become way to focused on items, for me it's always been about trying to stop diablo in time, eventhough there's no real timer, but I suppose I'm one of the few there, the thing is however I see it as a much more pleasent gameplay when you don't know everything that's going to happen, you don't know that if you meet a LE unique in the entrance to the outer cloister you're going to be delayed by a couple of minutes, otherwise you won't have any problems, you don't know that going right is often smartest in this game, you don't know that you can buy a staff with teleport charges and use the moat trick on mephisto, you don't know exactly how each area will look like (more or less, as it's still a relatively random spawn after all), you're in a whole new world.

However what I don't like is that there's also a rather basic lack of knowledge, which shouldn't be there, I mean it's the first time you play the game, but you should still know what you're doing and why you're where you are, it doesn't make much sense you just start in an act not knowing why you ventured there in the first place.

 

[stillman]

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--------------------wrong thread. Edited.

 

[Endarire]

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I'm of the know-it-all crowd when it comes to game mechanics. Much anguish and grief beset me because I couldn't find out how to get those marvelous items people kept touting, then I realized I was doing it wrong. I read a guide, made a leapin' Barbarian, and later a polearm Druid, and prospered.

Unfortunately, if D3 is like WoW, there will be spiffy moments that will either surprise you with awesome if you don't know them, but require you prepare for them and know them to get by. (None come to mind at present.)