Things Hell Meph can't drop

astralusion

Diabloii.Net Member
Things Hell Meph can't drop

hey...i was just wondering if someone could list...or point me to a list of the items that hell meph can't drop...would be great...thanks
 

Hrus

Diabloii.Net Member
Hell Meph can't drop items from TC81 and higher (I am sure someone can give you the link with list of items under all TCs. Or use a Flavie report.) His drops from TC78 are much less frequent than from otehr TCs.
He can drop all jewelry. He can't drop a zod.
 

Artagas

Diabloii.Net Member
Derrick1001 said:
What does the qlvl mean on that list?
quality level i think. the monster's mlvl has to match it to be able to drop the item.
http://www.diabloii.net/items/110monster.shtml this list has both monster tcs and mlvl-s
So for example pindle can drop any tc (allowing him to drop any armor or weapon type), but even if he drops a sacred armor it can't be Tyrael's Might since that is a qlvl87 item and Pindleskin is only mlvl86.
 

jiansonz

Diabloii.Net Member
Derrick1001 said:
What does the qlvl mean on that list?
Every base item type has a fixed qlvl. Mephisto can´t drop the item types from TC 81, 84 and 87 (so he won´t ever drop any Dream Spirits, Legend Spikes or Sacred Armors, etc. of any quality)

On top of that, many uniques have a special qlvl which is higher than the item type qlvl.

EDIT: language improvements
 

Sir Lister of Smeg

Diabloii.Net Member
Some low item level items also have a high quality level, and are as a result extremely hard to find. These are some TC3 items, such as: Knell Striker, Torch of Iro, Blinkbat's Form, Greyform, and The Gnasher.
 

supermatt

Diabloii.Net Member
this still doesn't really explain qlvl... does qlvl of an item have to be lower than the mlvl of the monster and the monster be able to drop it's TC for the monster to be able to drop it?

:scratch: matt
 

jiansonz

Diabloii.Net Member
supermatt said:
this still doesn't really explain qlvl... does qlvl of an item have to be lower than the mlvl of the monster and the monster be able to drop it's TC for the monster to be able to drop it?

:scratch: matt

Replace 'lower' with 'not higher' and you are correct.
 

SuperSavage

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Items you can't find on meph/diablo.

What u can't find on Hell Mephisto.....

-Sets-

1. Trang Ouls Belt
2. Trang Ouls Helm
3. Tal Rashas Armor
4. Sazabis Sword
5. Natalyas Claw
6. Mavinas Armor
7. Mavinas Helm
8. IK Armor
9. Heavens Breathern Shield
10. Heavens Breathern Helm
11. Griswolds Weapon
12. Griswolds Helm
13. Griswolds Shield
14. Cowkings Armor
15. Cowkings Helm
16. Cowkings Boots
17. BulKathos sword#1
18. Bulkathos Sword#2
19. Aldurs Armor

-Unique Weapons-

1. FrostWind (Cryptic Sword)
2. GrandFather (Collosus Blade)
3. FleshRipper (Fanged Knife)
4. GhostFlame (Legend Spike)
5. CraneBeak (War Spike)
6. DeathCleaver (Berserker Axe)
7. Messerschmidt's Reaver (Champion Axe)
8. Executioner's Justice (Glorious Axe)
9. Schaefer's Hammer (Legendary Mallet)
10. Stone Crusher (Legendary Mallet)
11. The Cranium Basher (Thunder Maul)
12. Earthshifter (Thunder Maul)
13. Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
14. Mang Song's Lesson (Archon Staff)
15. Deaths's Web (UnEarthed Wand)
16. Steelpillar (War Pike)
17. Tomb Reaver (Cryptic Axe)
18. StormSpire (Giant Thresher)
19. WraithFlight (Ghost Glaive)
20. Gargoyle's Bite (Winged Harpoon)
21. Lacerator (Winged Axe)
22. WidowMaker (Ward Bow)
23. WindForce (Hydra Bow)
24. Gutsiphon (Demon CrossBow)
25. Death's Fathom (Class Specified Sorc Orb)

-Unique Armor-

1. Leviathan (Kraken Shell)
2. Steel Carapace (Shadow Plate)
3. Tyrael's Might (Sacred Armor)
4. Medusa's Gaze (Aegis)
5. Spirit Ward (Ward)
6. Veil of Steel (Spired Helm)
7. Nightwing's Veil (Spired Helm)
8. Crown of Ages (Carona)
9. GiantSkull (Bone Visage)
10. Steelrend (Ogre Gauntlets)
11. ShadowDancer (Myrmidon Boots)
12. Griffon's Eye (Diadem)
13. Halaberd's Reign (Conqueror Crown)
14. RavenLore (Sky Spirit)
15. DragonScale (Zakarum Shield)
16. BoneFlame (Succubus Skull)
17. Darkforce Spawn (BloodLord SKull)

What u can't find on Hell Diablo.....

-Sets-

1. Natalyas Claw
2. Mavinas Helm
3. IK Armor
4. Griswolds Weapon
5. Griswolds Helm
6. Griswolds Shield
7. Cowkings Armor
8. Cowkings Helm
9. Cowkings Boots
10. BulKathos sword#1
11. Bulkathos Sword#2

-Unique Weapons-

1. GrandFather (Collosus Blade)
2. GhostFlame (Legend Spike)
3. DeathCleaver (Berserker Axe)
4. Executioner's Justice (Glorious Axe)
5. The Cranium Basher (Thunder Maul)
6. Earthshifter (Thunder Maul)
7. Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
8. Mang Song's Lesson (Archon Staff)
9. Deaths's Web (UnEarthed Wand)
10. Steelpillar (War Pike)
11. StormSpire (Giant Thresher)
12. Gargoyle's Bite (Winged Harpoon)
13. WindForce (Hydra Bow)
14. Death's Fathom (Class Specified Sorc Orb)

-Unique Armor-

1. Tyrael's Might (Sacred Armor)
2. Crown of Ages (Carona)
3. Steelrend (Ogre Gauntlets)
4. ShadowDancer (Myrmidon Boots)
5. Griffon's Eye (Diadem)
 

Tutatis

Diabloii.Net Member
I can tell you that cranium basher can be found at meph, a friend found it in 1.09. There are more items on your list that can be found on meph. All the sets except for The class specific ones and bul-katos can be completed at meph for example.
 

TopHatCat64

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Tutatis said:
I can tell you that cranium basher can be found at meph, a friend found it in 1.09. There are more items on your list that can be found on meph. All the sets except for The class specific ones and bul-katos can be completed at meph for example.
Yeah, that's because it was in 1.09, he can't in 1.10.
 

Hrus

Diabloii.Net Member
Tutatis said:
I can tell you that cranium basher can be found at meph, a friend found it in 1.09. There are more items on your list that can be found on meph. All the sets except for The class specific ones and bul-katos can be completed at meph for example.
SuperSavage is right. There is a difference between what Mephisto can drop and what can be dropped by monsters/racks in his Durance. AFAIK Meph can't drop Cranium Basher in 1.09 too.
 

Thrugg

Diabloii.Net Member
Meph has never been able to drop a Cranium Basher in any version, nor can it drop from the racks near him. It could be dropped by a random unique monster (not Meph nor any of the Council members) in the Durance though, but only in 1.10. In 1.09 it was far harder to get those TC87s to drop, you pretty much had to hit A5SUs or Baal for them.

SS's list is quite right.
 
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