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Things Hell Meph can't drop

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  1. astralusion

    astralusion IncGamers Member

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    Things Hell Meph can't drop

    hey...i was just wondering if someone could list...or point me to a list of the items that hell meph can't drop...would be great...thanks
     
  2. Thov

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    Someone posted this link-

    http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tokusanya/110_full_tc.txt

    It's a useful list overall, and as for things Hell Mephisto can't drop, that would be anything above TC78. Even then, don't hold your breath for TC78 or 75 items from him.
     
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    thanks...exactly what i was looking for
     
  4. Hrus

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    Hell Meph can't drop items from TC81 and higher (I am sure someone can give you the link with list of items under all TCs. Or use a Flavie report.) His drops from TC78 are much less frequent than from otehr TCs.
    He can drop all jewelry. He can't drop a zod.
     
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    What does the qlvl mean on that list?
     
  6. Artagas

    Artagas IncGamers Member

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    quality level i think. the monster's mlvl has to match it to be able to drop the item.
    http://www.diabloii.net/items/110monster.shtml this list has both monster tcs and mlvl-s
    So for example pindle can drop any tc (allowing him to drop any armor or weapon type), but even if he drops a sacred armor it can't be Tyrael's Might since that is a qlvl87 item and Pindleskin is only mlvl86.
     
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    Every base item type has a fixed qlvl. Mephisto can´t drop the item types from TC 81, 84 and 87 (so he won´t ever drop any Dream Spirits, Legend Spikes or Sacred Armors, etc. of any quality)

    On top of that, many uniques have a special qlvl which is higher than the item type qlvl.

    EDIT: language improvements
     
  8. Sir Lister of Smeg

    Sir Lister of Smeg IncGamers Member

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    Some low item level items also have a high quality level, and are as a result extremely hard to find. These are some TC3 items, such as: Knell Striker, Torch of Iro, Blinkbat's Form, Greyform, and The Gnasher.
     
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    this still doesn't really explain qlvl... does qlvl of an item have to be lower than the mlvl of the monster and the monster be able to drop it's TC for the monster to be able to drop it?

    :scratch: matt
     
  10. jiansonz

    jiansonz IncGamers Member

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    Replace 'lower' with 'not higher' and you are correct.
     
  11. SuperSavage

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    Items you can't find on meph/diablo.

    What u can't find on Hell Mephisto.....

    -Sets-

    1. Trang Ouls Belt
    2. Trang Ouls Helm
    3. Tal Rashas Armor
    4. Sazabis Sword
    5. Natalyas Claw
    6. Mavinas Armor
    7. Mavinas Helm
    8. IK Armor
    9. Heavens Breathern Shield
    10. Heavens Breathern Helm
    11. Griswolds Weapon
    12. Griswolds Helm
    13. Griswolds Shield
    14. Cowkings Armor
    15. Cowkings Helm
    16. Cowkings Boots
    17. BulKathos sword#1
    18. Bulkathos Sword#2
    19. Aldurs Armor

    -Unique Weapons-

    1. FrostWind (Cryptic Sword)
    2. GrandFather (Collosus Blade)
    3. FleshRipper (Fanged Knife)
    4. GhostFlame (Legend Spike)
    5. CraneBeak (War Spike)
    6. DeathCleaver (Berserker Axe)
    7. Messerschmidt's Reaver (Champion Axe)
    8. Executioner's Justice (Glorious Axe)
    9. Schaefer's Hammer (Legendary Mallet)
    10. Stone Crusher (Legendary Mallet)
    11. The Cranium Basher (Thunder Maul)
    12. Earthshifter (Thunder Maul)
    13. Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
    14. Mang Song's Lesson (Archon Staff)
    15. Deaths's Web (UnEarthed Wand)
    16. Steelpillar (War Pike)
    17. Tomb Reaver (Cryptic Axe)
    18. StormSpire (Giant Thresher)
    19. WraithFlight (Ghost Glaive)
    20. Gargoyle's Bite (Winged Harpoon)
    21. Lacerator (Winged Axe)
    22. WidowMaker (Ward Bow)
    23. WindForce (Hydra Bow)
    24. Gutsiphon (Demon CrossBow)
    25. Death's Fathom (Class Specified Sorc Orb)

    -Unique Armor-

    1. Leviathan (Kraken Shell)
    2. Steel Carapace (Shadow Plate)
    3. Tyrael's Might (Sacred Armor)
    4. Medusa's Gaze (Aegis)
    5. Spirit Ward (Ward)
    6. Veil of Steel (Spired Helm)
    7. Nightwing's Veil (Spired Helm)
    8. Crown of Ages (Carona)
    9. GiantSkull (Bone Visage)
    10. Steelrend (Ogre Gauntlets)
    11. ShadowDancer (Myrmidon Boots)
    12. Griffon's Eye (Diadem)
    13. Halaberd's Reign (Conqueror Crown)
    14. RavenLore (Sky Spirit)
    15. DragonScale (Zakarum Shield)
    16. BoneFlame (Succubus Skull)
    17. Darkforce Spawn (BloodLord SKull)

    What u can't find on Hell Diablo.....

    -Sets-

    1. Natalyas Claw
    2. Mavinas Helm
    3. IK Armor
    4. Griswolds Weapon
    5. Griswolds Helm
    6. Griswolds Shield
    7. Cowkings Armor
    8. Cowkings Helm
    9. Cowkings Boots
    10. BulKathos sword#1
    11. Bulkathos Sword#2

    -Unique Weapons-

    1. GrandFather (Collosus Blade)
    2. GhostFlame (Legend Spike)
    3. DeathCleaver (Berserker Axe)
    4. Executioner's Justice (Glorious Axe)
    5. The Cranium Basher (Thunder Maul)
    6. Earthshifter (Thunder Maul)
    7. Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
    8. Mang Song's Lesson (Archon Staff)
    9. Deaths's Web (UnEarthed Wand)
    10. Steelpillar (War Pike)
    11. StormSpire (Giant Thresher)
    12. Gargoyle's Bite (Winged Harpoon)
    13. WindForce (Hydra Bow)
    14. Death's Fathom (Class Specified Sorc Orb)

    -Unique Armor-

    1. Tyrael's Might (Sacred Armor)
    2. Crown of Ages (Carona)
    3. Steelrend (Ogre Gauntlets)
    4. ShadowDancer (Myrmidon Boots)
    5. Griffon's Eye (Diadem)
     
  12. Tutatis

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    I can tell you that cranium basher can be found at meph, a friend found it in 1.09. There are more items on your list that can be found on meph. All the sets except for The class specific ones and bul-katos can be completed at meph for example.
     
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    Yeah, that's because it was in 1.09, he can't in 1.10.
     
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    SuperSavage is right. There is a difference between what Mephisto can drop and what can be dropped by monsters/racks in his Durance. AFAIK Meph can't drop Cranium Basher in 1.09 too.
     
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    Meph has never been able to drop a Cranium Basher in any version, nor can it drop from the racks near him. It could be dropped by a random unique monster (not Meph nor any of the Council members) in the Durance though, but only in 1.10. In 1.09 it was far harder to get those TC87s to drop, you pretty much had to hit A5SUs or Baal for them.

    SS's list is quite right.
     

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