the use of weaken

[Dazuni]

the use of weaken

Iron maiden (IM) returns damage by a good few hundred percents, my merc is level **, and occasionally he die at the hand of IM in chaos sentry in act 4.

Would Weaken reduce the effect of IM on my party??

Could this be the use of weaken at last?

 

[Myrakh-2]

IM returns a percentage of the damage you deal. If you deal less damage, less damage is returned to you. So, if your merc is weakened he will deal less damage, and hence get less damage back. Not sure how monsters resistances are factored in, though (i.e. is IM calculated before or after phyiscal resistances).

That's why I take away my mercs weapon when OKs are around --- his damage drops down the floor, thus IM doesn't matter anymore.

 

[Dazuni]

I mean using Weaken as a counter curse on monster when they cast IM on me party.

Can Monster’s return damage be affected by weaken?

In a strange way it is similar to BG and IM in 1.09.

 

[Mad Mantis]

Could this be the use of weaken at last?

The use of Weaken is to protect an IG made from a procing item. You want to retain the monsters original swing speed, so using Decrep is out. But you want your IG to live longer, so you use Weaken.

I heard from darnocpdx that you can also use it in Low Level Dueling.

 

[darnocpdx]

I dunno about dueling but it does work great on PKers at the lower levels when most are relying on big physical damage. In conjunction with a good bone armor they typically can't hurt you. After all a 200 hp hit is 100 wiht PvP reduction, then toss in another 33% and your only getting hit for 67, or basicaly 1 point bone armor, 4 points bone wall, or 7 points bone armor.

Truth is most pre level 18 (at least in HC, where saveing of items isn't as possible) don't hit that hard anyway, even with critical strike (which is factored in after the 33% redux).

Also is curse of choice for that matador build too where you want the damage reduction but not the slow down. Much like the IG mentioned above.

 

[Dazuni]

I have to phase the question better I think.

Weaken the curse, does it affect the damage return done by the Iron madien?

i.e.

2 pvp party, party fight, Necro in partyA casted Iron madien on partyB.

In order to reduce the effect of Iron madien, Necro in partyB cast Weaken on partyA.

When PartyB's Barb hit a zon in partyA, the reflected damage from Iron maiden is factered to 33%

do you think it will work?

 

[darnocpdx]

Not sure, but since IM (or at least thorny damage from items) damage is also affected by amp I would say that it probably does. But honestly I don't know.