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The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by Kitteh, Mar 20, 2016.

  1. Zyr

    Zyr IncGamers Member

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    My Travincal-running Hammerdin's merc survives well with an ethereal "Prudence" Dusk Shroud ([email protected], 17 MDR, 2232 Def) and a perfect Chromatic (30) Circlet of Atlas (30). :D
     
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  2. sanguillen

    sanguillen IncGamers Member

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    I would just love for any of these to actually drop for me, so I'd have the CHOICE of using them. Right now, Toranaga just ticked eighty-eight (I really need to sit down and write a brief intro and add him to the list) and his merc both still have Lionheart armor, and the merc wears Tal's mask.

    Drops have been rather sparse, to say the least. :oops:
     
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    sanguillen IncGamers Member

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    I've never considered a Prudence before for the merc. For a Might merc, where would you rate it in comparison to Treachery?
     
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    Much better for trav due to the mdr
     
  5. Zyr

    Zyr IncGamers Member

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    I can't rate it, because I've never tried Treachery on a merc in Travincal. :oops:

    That was my hope when I put this team together for Travincal after reading about last year's RFL. It seems to work well. Both Paladin and merc were level 83 when I started calling upon the Council; both are level 86 now. IIRC, the merc has only died twice in that time, and once was purely due to a colossal brain failure by the driver. :rolleyes:
     
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    Sigh... here's an update. :(

    So after hitting the neat 300 mark, I concluded the 15%ed from a superior base would only provide a very marginal improvement compared to a non-superior base; and rolled my 3rd Faith. Obviously I was very happy with this roll. =D
    lvl97-2.jpg

    I was also quickly rewarded with HRs. And with the Ber from some levels ago, I have enough runes for yet another roll of Faith. :rolleyes:
    lvl97-3.jpg

    The Lo also let me reroll my Fortitude.
    Screenshot006.jpg
    Much better!



    Things progressed well, sneaking in 500k~1mil of exp during one or two 30 min session per weekday. At 1.5m exp/h I was very eager to speed up my runs further; and I was thoroughly enjoying myself testing various setups with the items I had on hand. The enjoyment lasted short though, when I ran out of possible variations; and I started looking towards builds I haven't tested yet - bearzons, spearzons, grief on switch, etc.

    Not wanting to use up my last respec, I wanted to 'test' the builds via backing up my save files. But, a quick discussion with @maxicek and @Kitteh made me realize that it was against the forum rules - thanks btw you two. And it actually turned out for the better, because I was able to hold back the temptation and still allow myself to use the excuse of staying 'pure bowa'.

    Which leads to earlier last week.

    Determined to stay pure bowa, I decided to used up the last respec to fine-tune the build.

    I dropped...
    • Valk and Decoy - because mobs melted in /p1 and Diablo completely ignores them
    • Penetrate - because Faith has ITD and GA is autohit
    • Pierce - because high level of MS meant I could 'simulate' pierce by controlling the spread
    Instead, I used the extra skill points on...
    • MS - for the reasons mentioned in Pierce
    • Avoid/Evade - because Diablo always targets merc so I only need to dodge the Fire Nova
    Stat wise, I went 100 Str to equip my Fortitude and rest into Dex, because I never got hit.

    All reasoning were solid; and off I went.

    And boy was I wrong.
    • No recastable tank meant I had to backtrack to my merc twice and often
    • MS was wayyy too high level and went OOM trying to clear the last couple stragglers
    • GA has a 'skill threat' of 4*slvl which made Diablo target me instead of the merc
    • Avoid/Evade was essentially useless, cause I was running away from the Lightning hose instead of Fire Nova
    • Sub 500-life meant a tiny slip-up resulted in a death
    The weekend was utter failure with total 3 deaths and only 1 corpse recovery. I lost pretty much all progress for all of last month.

    Oof. Big mistake on the respec.



    No way to recoup from the situation, I bit the bullet and pushed on to the Ancients. The fight was absurdly easy with GA and Cleg's; and WSK was terrifying with sub-1000 life and no lit absorb. Decoy would've been lovely here - though I guess I wouldn't have a reason to push that far if I did have decoy available...

    Anywho... Throne room was easy. Baal was easier. And now my bowa's a Matriarch.
    Screenshot010.jpg


    The thing is though... I had to repeat that process 16 times on p1/3 before Baal coughed up an Essence. :mad:

    Here's the current stats/skills after recouping from a horrible, horrible week.
    Screenshot014.jpg
    Screenshot013.jpg

    I have essentially unlimited respecs now, so I fine-tuned this build for the items I have available immediately.

    Stats
    • 100 Str (Ancient Armor) - 75 base + 10 from WT + 15 from Nos
    • 132 Dex (Diamond bow) - 70 base + 25 from Cat's Eye + 19 from RF+ 18 from RF (LL/ML covered from Nos/Circlet)
    • Rest Vit
    Skills
    • 20 MA - PI solution + Diablo
    • 13 MS - With 4 skills from current gear, I'm at a comfortable 17 MS
    • 20 Crit - tiny extra %s do help
    • 20 Penetrate - Moved GA points to here so I can hit Diablo a couple % better with MA
    • 13 Avoid / 12 Evade - 60% 50% dodge
    • 7(to be 9) Decoy - castable tank, next 2 points to go in here.
    Inventory
    • full of Inertia - missing 6 sc of Inertia to max out inventory (the 2 lc's to be replaced are also of inertia's)
    • Gheeds - cause empty space



    Notes
    • Full Inertia > Full Sharp/Fine - of the p1/7 runs, most of the time is spent clearing RoF and CS. Frw helps much more than the extra damage does
    • Cats Eye > Amp - same reasoning as above. Damage increase from Amp does not provide nearly enough improvement on run time.
    • Currently at about 1.5m~ exp/h. I doubt it'll improve much until I find a next key upgrade.
    • Don't want WF cause it will force Diablo to always target me
    Wishlist
    • 3os/30frw tiara/diadem - Current 15ias/30frw circlet only allows for 65%ias breakpoint. extra 30% will let me use GMB for higher damage and keep the same frw.
    • 2os/30frw circlet - Will net me extra 20% ias via use of Mav's belt. I currently need the 10%ias from Nos to hit 7fpa
    • Steelshade - Will let merc tank Diablo much better. This will allow some gear switches, namely Amp on bowa and hone sundan on merc for high and faster CB. Though I'm not sure if the 30frw lost is worth the damage from Amp and CB.
    • eth Reapers - Will use socket quest on it and use Ber for CB.
    • 15%ed Superior 4os Diamond Bow - cause I want to roll a perfect Faith
    • Steelshade + eReapers/Ber + Fortitude = current end-game goal for merc
    • Guillaume/Cham + Reaper/Shael + Fortitude = next-best end-game goal for merc
    Plans
    • p1/7 CS till the end of time
    • push Pally or Assassin as a 2nd 99er entrant to Hell Trav, for RLF round 2
    Drops
    • non-eth 4os/[email protected] pally shield. Not sure if it's of any use.
      lvl97-8.jpg
    • Teleport Ammy - Perhaps for Twinking purposes.
      lvl97-1.jpg
    • My first 300+ ed rare bow. Too bad on base and no ias. dual leech is nice though.
      lvl97-7.jpg


    Be back when I get 98! :D

    Edit:
    Code:
    Faith
    Diamond Bow
    OhmJahLemEld
    Two Hand Damage: 141 - 172
    Durability: 25 of 40
    Required Level: 65
    Required Strength: 89
    Required Dexterity: 132
    Fingerprint: 0x37d82c5f
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Level 14 Fanaticism Aura When Equipped
    +2 to All Skills
    330% Enhanced Damage
    Ignore Target's Defense
    300% Bonus to Attack Rating
    +75% Damage to Undead
    +50 to Attack Rating against Undead
    Adds 120 - 120 Fire Damage
    All Resistances +15
    10% Reanimate as: Returned
    75% Extra Gold from Monsters
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Ohm Rune
    Socketed: Jah Rune
    Socketed: Lem Rune
    Socketed: Eld Rune
    
    Amazon's Fortitude
    Ancient Armor
    ElSolDolLo
    Defense: 714
    Durability: 60 of 60
    Required Level: 59
    Required Strength: 100
    Fingerprint: 0x6831f32e
    Item Level: 53
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    20% Chance to cast level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
    +25% Faster Cast Rate
    300% Enhanced Damage
    +200% Enhanced Defense
    +15 Defense
    +133 to Life (Based on Character Level)
    Replenish Life +7
    +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
    All Resistances +27
    Damage Reduced by 7
    12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
    +1 to Light Radius
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: El Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune
    Socketed: Dol Rune
    Socketed: Lo Rune
    
    Vortex Shield
    Defense: 187
    Chance to Block: 0
    Durability: 45 of 90
    Required Level: 66
    Required Strength: 148
    Fingerprint: 0xd03c6aa9
    Item Level: **
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    All Resistances +45
    4 Sockets (0 used)
    
    Wraith Mark
    Amulet
    Required Level: 48
    Fingerprint: 0xebd3f83e
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to Offensive Aura Skills (Paladin Only)
    +30 to Attack Rating
    +34 to Life
    All Resistances +15
    Poison Resist +29%
    +3 to Light Radius
    Level 2 Teleport (13/25 Charges)
    
    Cruel Quill
    Spider Bow
    Two Hand Damage: 104 - 238
    Durability: 11 of 20
    Required Level: 48
    Required Strength: 64
    Required Dexterity: 143
    Fingerprint: 0x8d4b9f83
    Item Level: 94
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    356% Enhanced Damage
    +10 to Maximum Damage
    +506 to Attack Rating
    5% Mana stolen per hit
    4% Life stolen per hit
    



    Hall of Fame
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
    Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
    NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
    PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
    PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
    ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
    Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
    Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
    T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
    Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
    ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  99     3.52  2018-12-26  Yes     -    463       -      -
    
    Questing Heroes
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    Buckcrazy        Zic              HC     Sorc   98.3   3.32  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA   lots
    Bewitch          Mayhem           SC     Barb   97     3.19  2018-09-13  Yes     -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  97.75  3.16  2019-03-03  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  97.5   3.09  2019-02-19  Yes     -    408      NA      -
    Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    97.36  3.00  2019-03-16  Yes     -      -       -      -
    darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
    Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  97     2.96  2018-11-20  Yes  2529      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Quinta           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2019-01-19  Yes     -    374       4      -
    Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    95     2.50  2019-02-03  Yes  Lots      -       -      -
    teddeeboy        Atheyanore       SC     Sorc   95     2.52  2019-02-03  Yes  300+      -       8   many
    Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   94     0.00  2019-01-12  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   94     2.29  2019-01-18  -       -      -      NA      -
    sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  93     2.14  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
    Potent           Challenge(CL)    SC     Sorc   92     1.96  2018-07-30  no      -      -       -      -
    Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Death            SC     Barb   92     1.92  2019-03-11  No      -      -       1      -
    Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   91     1.84  2018-11-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
    liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   91     1.89  2019-02-04  Yes     -    223       -      -
    LongingForDeath  VelvetSky        SC     Sorc   91     1.77  2019-03-09  Yes     -    207      11      -
    Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   91     1.76  2019-02-04  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
    Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
    sir_cyclops      devi             SC     Sin    89     ?.??  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    **     1.41  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       1      -
    MizzouFTW        Mariah           SC     Sin    **     1.36  2019-01-28  Yes     -     -        -      -
    BasicBhoy        Belgarath        HC     Druid  **     1.36  2019-01-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
    TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    **     ?.??  2019-02-09  Yes     -      -       -      -
    AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   87     ?.??  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
    T72on1           Grapelike        SC     Barb   87     1.25  2019-01-24  Yes    98     82      13     37
    Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Luhkoh           Arkana           SC     Sorc   86     1.14  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       -      -
    sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   85     1.10  2018-12-19  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Bobbo            Barbamel         HC     Barb   84     1.01  2019-01-11  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    nepeta           finistere        SC     Sin    83     1.14  2019-01-04  ?       -      -       1      4
    kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   83     0.83  2019-03-11  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   78     0.62  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
    Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Barb   74     0.40  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Irenicus_Mfs     Morgana          HC     Sorc   69     0.26  2018-12-09  Yes     -      -      NA     14+
    RIP              Sucell           HC     Druid  47     0.03  2018-12-08  Yes     -     20       -      -
    Grape            Coke             SC     Barb   42     0.00  2018-12-06   ?     14     14       0      -
    Izzak            Bones            SC     Necro  42     0.**  2019-01-10   -      -      -       1      -
    MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    ffs              Lucid            SC     Pala   01     0.00  2018-11-22   ?      -      -       0      0
    MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Necro  01     0.00  2019-02-19   No     -      -       0      0
    
    Resting Heroes
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
    Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
    NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
    Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
    OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
    kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
    tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Babyhell         IpBanPrevales    SC     Sin    78      0.0  2019-03-14  Yes     -      -       6      -
    Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
    Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
    MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
    Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
    LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
    Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
    Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
    Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
    hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
    DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
    Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
    Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -      NA      -
    Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
    Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
    aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
    ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
    Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
    logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
    Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
    Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
    Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
    Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
    Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
    Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
    Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
    Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
    Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
    Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
    drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
    RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
    BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
    
    The Fallen
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    95     2.55  2018-09-06  Yes     -    399       -      -
    T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   95     2.52  2019-01-04  Yes  lots    320      NA    103
    Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  87     XXXX  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
    MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
    Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
    coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
    RIP              Attila           HC     Barb   78     0.59  2018-09-26  Yes     -     73       -      -
    TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
    Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
    weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
    Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
    Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
    coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
    Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
    logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1
    
     
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    @Gynli, re the respec: "I'm sorry things didn't turn out as you had hoped." But thanks for the splendid update, and congratulations on the finds, progress, and rolls. :)
     
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    Hall of Fame
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
    Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
    NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
    PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
    PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
    ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
    Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
    Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
    T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
    Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
    ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  99     3.52  2018-12-26  Yes     -    463       -      -
    
    Questing Heroes
    Code:
    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    Buckcrazy        Zic              HC     Sorc   98.3   3.32  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA   lots
    Bewitch          Mayhem           SC     Barb   97     3.19  2018-09-13  Yes     -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  97.75  3.16  2019-03-03  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  97.5   3.09  2019-02-19  Yes     -    408      NA      -
    Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    97.36  3.00  2019-03-16  Yes     -      -       -      -
    darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
    Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  97     2.96  2018-11-20  Yes  2529      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Quinta           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2019-01-19  Yes     -    374       4      -
    Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    95     2.50  2019-02-03  Yes  Lots      -       -      -
    teddeeboy        Atheyanore       SC     Sorc   95     2.52  2019-02-03  Yes  300+      -       8   many
    Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   94     0.00  2019-01-12  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   94     2.29  2019-01-18  -       -      -      NA      -
    sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  93     2.14  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
    Potent           Challenge(CL)    SC     Sorc   92     1.96  2018-07-30  no      -      -       -      -
    Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
    PhineasB         Death            SC     Barb   92     1.92  2019-03-11  No      -      -       1      -
    Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   91     1.84  2018-11-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
    liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   91     1.89  2019-02-04  Yes     -    223       -      -
    LongingForDeath  VelvetSky        SC     Sorc   91     1.77  2019-03-09  Yes     -    207      11      -
    Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   91     1.76  2019-02-04  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
    Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
    sir_cyclops      devi             SC     Sin    89     ?.??  2019-02-27  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    **     1.41  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       1      -
    MizzouFTW        Mariah           SC     Sin    **     1.36  2019-01-28  Yes     -     -        -      -
    BasicBhoy        Belgarath        HC     Druid  **     1.36  2019-01-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
    TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    **     ?.??  2019-02-09  Yes     -      -       -      -
    AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   87     ?.??  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
    T72on1           Grapelike        SC     Barb   87     1.25  2019-01-24  Yes    98     82      13     37
    Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Luhkoh           Arkana           SC     Sorc   86     1.14  2019-03-06  Yes     -      -       -      -
    sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   85     1.10  2018-12-19  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Bobbo            Barbamel         HC     Barb   84     1.01  2019-01-11  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    nepeta           finistere        SC     Sin    83     1.14  2019-01-04  ?       -      -       1      4
    kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   83     0.90  2019-03-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   78     0.62  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
    Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Barb   74     0.40  2019-03-04  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    Irenicus_Mfs     Morgana          HC     Sorc   69     0.26  2018-12-09  Yes     -      -      NA     14+
    RIP              Sucell           HC     Druid  47     0.03  2018-12-08  Yes     -     20       -      -
    Grape            Coke             SC     Barb   42     0.00  2018-12-06   ?     14     14       0      -
    Izzak            Bones            SC     Necro  42     0.**  2019-01-10   -      -      -       1      -
    MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    ffs              Lucid            SC     Pala   01     0.00  2018-11-22   ?      -      -       0      0
    MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Necro  01     0.00  2019-02-19   No     -      -       0      0
    
    Resting Heroes
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    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
    ---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
    hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
    Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
    NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
    Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
    OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
    kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
    tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Babyhell         IpBanPrevales    SC     Sin    78      0.0  2019-03-14  Yes     -      -       6      -
    Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
    Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
    MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
    Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
    LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
    Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
    Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
    Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
    hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
    DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
    Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
    Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -      NA      -
    Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
    Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
    aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
    ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
    Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
    logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
    Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
    Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
    Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
    Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
    Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
    Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
    Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
    Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -      NA      -
    TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
    Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
    Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
    drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
    RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
    BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
    DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
    
    The Fallen
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    Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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    RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    95     2.55  2018-09-06  Yes     -    399       -      -
    T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   95     2.52  2019-01-04  Yes  lots    320      NA    103
    Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  87     XXXX  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
    Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
    MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
    Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
    coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
    RIP              Attila           HC     Barb   78     0.59  2018-09-26  Yes     -     73       -      -
    TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
    Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
    weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
    Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
    Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
    coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
    Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
    logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1
    

    So finally had the time and not being tired to push thru the council to openup durance of hate. Then went thru all three levels slowly and carefully. Only dolls level 1 which was ok. WP was mile away from Lvl 3 entrance which was annoying. Multiple Dark lord boss packs in the entrance section and into the first council member. This one was conviction equipped too which was lol as someone fart merc die....

    Was ok as i could do Sparky on my own mostly. Other two were fine with some dragging away from more lords then that left Meph. He splatted merc once but then i attacked for a bit then kited off to replenish life. Then amusingly for the first time ever i used the moat trick and down he went no trouble at all. Nothing dropped of note though the git.

    Onto Act 4 next which could be fun or not depending on how many cold immunes i run into, oh and the always takes bloody ages to kill Izzy. Maybe look at three sessions for Act 4, Izzy and access down to river of flame, then go get some crap rune, then finally Diablo.
     
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    Chaostar IncGamers Member

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    Hey there !

    I'm glad to join you once again, after a long break !
    It's still a pleasure to read your updates (between 2 IP Banned bug :confused:) !

    I feel the urge to play again to my favorite game, with a new computer, and no backup of my old characters (I should get them back one day, they are sleeping on my hard drive, somewhere).
    I won't have more than a few hours a week to play, so I probably won't reach lvl99 ever, but anyway, I'm back to business.

    Before I sign in I still have to decide which character to play : I can't decide between a sorceress, a zealot, a frenzy or WW barb, a bowazon, a kicker assassin. Or another one I should try ?

    Feel free to let me know who do you want to see die and complain about bad drops ? :D:D
     
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    @Hutton @buckcrazy @Zyr @sir_cyclops I'm confused on this MDR at trav situation. It seems you all are using it to great effect, but I thought MDR on merc didn't do much at trav. The hydras should apply ~28 dmg to you (after the pvp reduction) and ~160 to merc. And MDR is applied before resistances. So that's why I thought MDR at trav rocked for the player and didn't do too much for the merc. If it works great on merc too, that's a gamechanger and I'll be making a prudence asap, but I'd still like to know where I went wrong on the dmg to merc calculation.

    Edit: and check out this thread/post if you're interested LINK. So I'm just really interested in whats going on here. Thanks!
     
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    @Luhkoh, I'm not the sort of player who calculates such matters; my custom is, "Here's the best I think I can do with what I have available; let's throw it at the wall, and see if it sticks." :rolleyes: But here's what I think may be happening:

    1. I should have stated upfront that I'm playing my Travincal Hammerdin on battle.net, non-Ladder. Both Paladin and merc are given BO by a Barb at level 41, which I suspect is rather higher than available in SP even with a time-traveled CtA. This merc has 1870 HP before BO, 4768 with BO. That has to be a major factor.

    2. I think the resistances from "Prudence" are at least important as the MDR. At level 86, the merc has [email protected] naked. With [email protected] from the armor and [email protected] from his circlet, he has [email protected] If my understanding is correct (always a dubious matter), level 8 Conviction from a Council member reduces that to [email protected] After MDR peels part of the Fire (or Lightning) damage away, the merc still takes damage-- but slowly enough that my aged reflexes and fumbling fingers still, usually, manage to feed him a purple before he croaks.
     
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    @Zyr That would all make sense, if it weren't for the fact that @sir_cyclops told me his merc died immediately with fort on and survives fine with gbane! Haha I'm not sure what could be going on there.
     
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    @Luhkoh my understanding was that mdr is calculated before the 4x dmg against mercs. So if u can negate all 28 base damage, it should do 0 damage. -- is it 28 base?

    Also is hydra damage purely magic? Or is it a mix of magic and physical?

    If the latter, you can stack pdr and/or mdr and the residual dr from either will rollover to the other. I.e. if hydra does part magic and part physical, 28pdr and 28mdr shud work out to be the same
     
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    Hydra damage is fire damage which also falls within the category of magic damage. That’s why eg dual Dwar Star makes a player immune to it.

    I have never tried an MDR Merc setup but Steelshade helps him so it only makes sense MDR does, too. The PvP penalty which applied to the player character reduces the damage taken (ie 28 is not what hydras originally deal), Merc always takes the full hit.
     
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    @Chaostar Welcome back, and welcome to this fun little challenge :). Good luck !!
     
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    @Gynli Very interesting. That would indeed explain it, and I that is an area I haven't researched as well as the dmg/resist order and such. But since the dmg gets reduced by a factor when it is applied to a player rather than the merc getting penalized like he does with act bosses, I would think he would receive the 160 dmg initially.

    @ffs steelshade has integer absorb which is applied after resistances rather than before it like mdr, which makes it way better (why tgods is so ridiculous against souls, but gladiators bane not so much).
     
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    @Luhkoh Yes Merc takes the full amount as I’ve said. You’re right of course that absorb is much better as you’ve said for him. I thought about it from the player's character's perspective where MDR and integer absorb only differ in terms of negating vs. healing. But MDR still provides some mitigation to Merc if nothing like GA/Kira/Steelshade is available on top of 75 FR.

    Bottom line though it’s hard to make a Merc really safe for Trav without those typically used items... Probably makes sense to just Meph for Kira/GA just as much as trying different solutions. :)
     
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    @ffs Haha fair enough. I know I won't be fitting in ~1000 meph runs before round two though. And right, I would think the 17mdr from prudence would reduce merc dmg from hydras by ~10-15% which as you say is still noticeable. I just thought something else may be going on when sir_cyclops told me his merc died quick with fort and survived forever with prudence, so I got interested. But I know him IRL so we'll test it some more before round 2 and report back!
     
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    I’m just here to add hat hydra is awesome and you should all stop making fun of how pathetically easily it can be negated :p
     
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