The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

sanguillen

Diabloii.Net Member
Maybe that's what I need to do, run LK repeatedly for those runes for something like Enigma. Been trying to Hell Meph for a little while now but it's a tad slow.
Are you still using the Lightsabre? I would try LK runs until I had the runes for either Oath or Death (or, if you're really lucky, Grief) before doing another Hell Meph run. You don't need Enigma to become a Guardian - but a big hurty stick will help a lot. :D
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
@AlexTheNextOne Meph is the best target for those rather common S&Us like String, LoH, Reaper, Gores/WT, Raven etc., but after that he's completely useless. ;) If you're looking for high runes, indeed LK. If you're looking for high-end S&Us, I'd hit Pindle or lvl 85 areas.

Enigma: It is somewhat of a grind taking ~30-35 hours of LK running depending on run times, but that is nothing in comparison to hundreds of hours saved on the way to 99 (yes that is how much it speeds up things). And farming it untwinked is a very cool accomplishment. :)
 
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PhineasB

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Great to see @Grape finally join :) Looking forward to Coke's progress! Looking forward to entries by @Pb_pal @ffs and @T72on1
@PhineasB Do I read there that you will go Barb? At least that's what I take from that last sentence ;)
Actually, the Barb entry will be Death from my Trio of Twins project, who is progressing as a zerker with no extended stash. But he hadn't moved from A1 NM for more than a year, so that's the reason I'm not sure I'll get to it. But with the great discussion here as motivation, I got back to him and just took down NM Andariel. Questing through is a nice break from repetitive runs at the moment, so we'll see if he can make it through A2 over the long weekend. Speaking of progress . . .

Matriarch Quinta and Kasim the Might Desert Merc, Lvl 94 (pic)
As mentioned in Phaedrus’ write up, Quinta had progressed to just shy of 93.7, and she finished the last stretch in the week after Phaedrus hit 99.

No major upgrades since her last update at 93.4, sadly, but it was smooth progress for the most part. One dumb death mixed in: I often ran with her as a short break from Phaedrus, and clearly forgot to lower the p-setting to p1 before realizing what was happening. Exhibit Q as to why I don't play hardcore :p

Early in this stretch, she picked up a Leviathan and Horizon’s, followed by a minor troll with a Fletcher’s skiller, and then an Um as her only Lem+ rune. After another 7 yellow Shako’s (and 31 total at Pindle), it finally dropped, but of course:
Pindle (Shako eth).jpg
:rolleyes: Another five yellow Shako’s before she hit the level. :mad: But that allowed her to run on p3 for the rest of level, with 1 durability left when she pinged. The +skill without too much loss of MF and extra life were key.

She finished up with BK CB, Arkaine’s (+2 skills on the roll), another Spirit Keeper, and another Leviathan. The Arkaine’s is actually pretty interesting, and may be the armor she uses for Baal runs once she gets Infinity. The +skills and vita will be welcome, and I’m not sure what else would beat it in my current stash except maybe Naj armor for +1 skill and resists?

As for Infinity, we have moved to LK again, hoping for a Ber equivalent to complete that runeword and then do at least 94-95 on Baal before reassessing whether to go back to LK for Enigma.

Quinta is doing 50 runs on promising maps before rerolling, and still haven’t found an @ffs quality map at 200 LK runs completed. Only two Lems to show for it so far. In the meantime, she rolled a CtA to make runs more comfortable and keep deaths to a minimum, and the roll (+1 BO) perfectly matches her experience with useful drops so far.

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Pestilence is also moving again. I hadn't touched him since the end of the MFO-warm-up tourney in July, but I think there is a good chance he will hit 97 over the holiday weekend. I'll hold off on a full update until he finishes the level.

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Hall of Fame
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zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
Questing Heroes
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ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  98.33  3.32  2018-11-18  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  97     2.96  2018-11-20  Yes  2529      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  96     2.84  2018-07-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  96     2.84  2018-10-18  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Bewitch          Mayhem           SC     Barb   96     2.71  2018-09-13  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Quinta           SC     Ama    94     2.28  2018-11-21  Yes     -    339       3      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.12  2018-09-08  No      -      -       -      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   93     0.00  2018-09-15  Yes     -      -       -      -
Potent           Challenge(CL)    SC     Sorc   92     1.96  2018-07-30  no      -      -       -      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  91     1.79  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-09-20  Yes    78     66      NA     55
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  89     1.49  2018-09-08  Yes     -      -       -      -
Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   87     1.29  2018-09-12  -       -      -       0      -
Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   87     1.28  2018-11-20  -       -      -       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -       -      -
sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   82     0.84  2018-09-25  Yes     -      -       -      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   74     0.40  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   58     0.10  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   58     0.00  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    20     0.00  2018-11-13  Yes     -      -       -      - 
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -       -      -
Resting Heroes
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hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    93     2.10  2018-02-05  Yes    80      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    160       -      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   85     1.11  2018-05-28  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -

The Fallen
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Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    95     2.55  2018-09-06  Yes     -    399       -      -
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
RIP              Attila           HC     Barb   78     0.59  2018-09-26  Yes     -     73       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1
 

Hutton

Diabloii.Net Member
I'm still alive.

Admittedly playing little at the moment- mostly been playing HOTS when people are online and I took a brief foray into MTG: Arena for a while (it's decent, but ultimately playing Magic without the social aspect is not great).

Been chipping away at LK and Travincal in the hope of getting the Ber required for Enigma.

No dice yet, but a few interesting drops have at least kept me coming back sporadically.

LK Light Skiller 2.jpg LK Gul.jpg LK Mal.jpg LK Rare Ring.jpg LK Trapper.jpg LK Vex.jpg
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
Well, I made up my mind about my next character :). Grapelike, the Barbarian, will join the fun soon !! Seems like we'll see an influx of Barbs ...

I respecced a Druid to Windy yesterday and did some runs. It was fun, but not in a way that I can see myself getting to 99, or even close. I think it's a build I might use once in a while, for example for some AT runs, but not one that I'll enjoy for extended periods.

Next to that I was leaning towards a Paladin first. But I have to admit that the main reason for that was because I enjoy my Hammerdin so much that I want to have a backup in case he dies. But then I thought about how he would have to search for Enigma all over again, about how I would always have to gear towards FanaZealot, but also with Hammerdin in the back of my mind in case ShouldBeEasy would die, and in the end about how I just should stop thinking that ShouldBeEasy will probably die at some point at all. Because obviously he won't !!! If you believe strongly you can do something, it will happen. So, yes he'll make it to 99 :).

Anyway, maybe the biggest reason to go for a WW Barb is that I realized just how well he can run several targets without Enigma. Obviously that one will still greatly speed up things, but up till then the journey should still be very interesting and even rather efficient, with various targets possible. I mean, a Barb doesn't need his weapon switch for CtA, so he can use Harmony there for more FRW. Add some points into Increased Speed to the mix, then the beauty that is Leap, and there should be plenty of places to go.

Pindle is always a good target, and that's definitely true for a WW Barb, with FI on top of good killing speed. The same goes for Eldritch obviously. But he can also run Meph very fast, CS, Pits, Trav, Baal waves ... .

So yeah, sorry about the rambling, but I wanted to get my reasoning out :). You all know me by now ...

I'm not sure when I'll start this one, as I'm still enjoying the Hammerdin so much. Making the move to Pits with him already payed off a bit with an Ist and Lem only a few runs in. Not much, but better than what I got in hundreds of LK runs. XP is also building up steadily, currently at 90.5.
 

Pb_pal

Diabloii.Net Member
Well I said I'd join the newest round of fun, so here we are!

I had 2 main concerns when deciding what class to take.

1. Be melee
2. Something I can reasonably keep alive (HC)

The only reason Klaus has made is as far as he has is because of his gigantic life pool, so that was my first point of priority. My options for inherant big life are either a shape-shifting druid, or a barb. Well, Klaus is a druid so I didn't want to double up there, and I figured what better class to take than the one chosen by the Zod God himself? I also thought it could be fun to add another barb to the mix and see how we all end up, and the differences in our experiences along the way.

Barb it is!

As mentioned before, I seriously dislike WW. My favourite offensive skill of Barbarians has always been Frenzy, and since @Bobbo already started up a HC Zerker, my decision was all but made for me.

I'm also tempted to go the no-LK route and get my high runes primarily from Trav runs, though this is not set in stone just yet. The choice to take a barb also lines up with several points made by others:

- No need to farm a CtA
- Get a reliable rune-finder in HC (at least someone a bit more efficient than Klaus)
- Potential for MFing at a later time too, to bolster the HC grail

This will be a slow journey. I still have to finish up Klaus, amidst all the other projects I'm in the middle of or want to start, so the updates will not come quickly. I'm also going to take a more relaxed approach to playing him in general, since that seems to have helped keep Klaus alive too. Doesn't matter, I'm here for the long haul. :)

Stevesy lives again!

 

AlexTheNextOne

Diabloii.Net Member
I'd be terrified of starting a Barb in HC, I don't know how you guys do it. How do you keep those guys alive when you don't have the massive defense boost from Holy Shield, the ability to escape from danger with Teleport/Vigor, the meat shield (or bone, I suppose) from Raise Skeleton, or the fashionable translucency of Fade?
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
@Pb_pal Very cool. Good luck !! Will be interesting to see how all those different Barbs fare. I feel a bit wimpy for going SC. I don't regret it though ;).

@AlexTheNextOne Barb has high life pool, Taunt to disable dangerous ranged attackers, Leap and War Cry to stun enemies, Howl if things get too hairy, relatively easy time to get resists up due to Natural Resistance, very fast attack speed with WW and Frenzy to leech life back, ... I consider them to have such great crowd control that it's definitely doable, and in fact one of the best classes, if not the best class, to do so. Notice that I don't say it will be easy ;).

@Kitteh I'm actually considering going completely Enigma-less. We'll have to see what I do when I find the runes. The biggest factor for taking Enigma wouldn't even be fast traveling as such, but the fact that without it, it takes so long for the merc to get to you and provide that Might aura / proc Decrep, and overall reposition him if needed.

I couldn't resist to start Grapelike during my lunch break. I'll add him to the table soon. He's currently level 11 and has rescued Cain. I decided to go for Polearms early on, and respec into swords later, when I get to make Oath / Grief. Reasoning is that it's usually quite hard to get your hands on good weapons early on, but Polearms have a lot going for it, because of the cube recipe for a Savage Polearm and then later on Insight and Obedience. I know, they are all slow, but they should pack enough punch with quite easy to come by materials to do the trick until the endgame stuff.
 

Bobbo

Diabloii.Net Member
@AlexTheNextOne well... so far it seems the trick to staying alive is called howl and not-ww. Had I gone the ww route I’m sure I’d already deeds’d due to whirling into something nasty without being able to pot.

Cool to see the untwinkedly overlooked barb get some attention... And in all different shapes and sizes as well :) but question is, who’s going for throw then?
 

sanguillen

Diabloii.Net Member
@AlexTheNextOne - agree totally with @T72on1 and @Pb_pal on Taunt and Howl. When I first returned a couple of years ago, I started an untwinked WW barb (though I never even thought of entering him here until he hit lvl 87, which was too late). It was there that I discovered the benefits of Taunt and Howl for crowd control. They are very powerful on their own but when used in combination, they are quite a difference maker indeed.

@Kitteh I'm actually considering going completely Enigma-less. We'll have to see what I do when I find the runes. The biggest factor for taking Enigma wouldn't even be fast traveling as such, but the fact that without it, it takes so long for the merc to get to you and provide that Might aura / proc Decrep, and overall reposition him if needed.
That's been my philosophy as well. I kind of like making my way about Sanctuary without Enigma, and have no intention to ever start using one. If I ever somehow come across the runes for them, I'll use them for something else like Infinity or Chains of Honor.
 

Tatterson

Diabloii.Net Member


Doing ancients gave me so much freedom in being able to test other builds and freedom to do baals (although I still favour CS over baals, but the stormshield I got still doesn't give me enough survivability to really go hard in the paint. I haven't socketed it and I only had 55% block, which could be the causes of the occasional death from de seis) Maybe I have to completely scrap the idea of doing p8 or even p3 de seis.

Getting that extra 20% block and maybe the next FBR breakpoint with a shael does sound good, but I don't want to commit yet. Maybe a delirium merc could be useful too.

Leveling in baals got me thinking: Enigma only gives barbs teleport and a bit of strength. CoH and fortitude give you enhanced damage, which is quite substancial.
With a good map you have a few teleports per level then the usual 7-10 to the throne. Using a najs staff is probably more effort than its worth, which got me thinking about other ways of getting teleport. You could keep a fortitude in your inventory to swap in whenever you get to the throne, and 220ed (enigmas 80str gives you 80ed) is a way better bonus than 20 max dmg / 140ar / 80 life with the best possible charms. OR you could teleport to the throne, swap your enigma with a fortitude from your merc, kill the waves and swap back when baal goes to the chamber. Just a few ideas that I haven't tried. Maybe the armor swapping would get old really fast.
 

ArtOfSenf

Diabloii.Net Member


Doing ancients gave me so much freedom in being able to test other builds and freedom to do baals (although I still favour CS over baals, but the stormshield I got still doesn't give me enough survivability to really go hard in the paint. I haven't socketed it and I only had 55% block, which could be the causes of the occasional death from de seis) Maybe I have to completely scrap the idea of doing p8 or even p3 de seis.

Getting that extra 20% block and maybe the next FBR breakpoint with a shael does sound good, but I don't want to commit yet. Maybe a delirium merc could be useful too.

Leveling in baals got me thinking: Enigma only gives barbs teleport and a bit of strength. CoH and fortitude give you enhanced damage, which is quite substancial.
With a good map you have a few teleports per level then the usual 7-10 to the throne. Using a najs staff is probably more effort than its worth, which got me thinking about other ways of getting teleport. You could keep a fortitude in your inventory to swap in whenever you get to the throne, and 220ed (enigmas 80str gives you 80ed) is a way better bonus than 20 max dmg / 140ar / 80 life with the best possible charms. OR you could teleport to the throne, swap your enigma with a fortitude from your merc, kill the waves and swap back when baal goes to the chamber. Just a few ideas that I haven't tried. Maybe the armor swapping would get old really fast.
Tbh i like the idea of swapping armors with your Merc. But we are talking theory here, right? I mean it's untwinked and finding all these runes in first place is enough to keep you busy for a couple of weeks?
 

Southpaw8668

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Well, I made up my mind about my next character :). Grapelike, the Barbarian, will join the fun soon !! Seems like we'll see an influx of Barbs ...

I respecced a Druid to Windy yesterday and did some runs. It was fun, but not in a way that I can see myself getting to 99, or even close. I think it's a build I might use once in a while, for example for some AT runs, but not one that I'll enjoy for extended periods.

Next to that I was leaning towards a Paladin first. But I have to admit that the main reason for that was because I enjoy my Hammerdin so much that I want to have a backup in case he dies. But then I thought about how he would have to search for Enigma all over again, about how I would always have to gear towards FanaZealot, but also with Hammerdin in the back of my mind in case ShouldBeEasy would die, and in the end about how I just should stop thinking that ShouldBeEasy will probably die at some point at all. Because obviously he won't !!! If you believe strongly you can do something, it will happen. So, yes he'll make it to 99 :).

Anyway, maybe the biggest reason to go for a WW Barb is that I realized just how well he can run several targets without Enigma. Obviously that one will still greatly speed up things, but up till then the journey should still be very interesting and even rather efficient, with various targets possible. I mean, a Barb doesn't need his weapon switch for CtA, so he can use Harmony there for more FRW. Add some points into Increased Speed to the mix, then the beauty that is Leap, and there should be plenty of places to go.

Pindle is always a good target, and that's definitely true for a WW Barb, with FI on top of good killing speed. The same goes for Eldritch obviously. But he can also run Meph very fast, CS, Pits, Trav, Baal waves ... .

So yeah, sorry about the rambling, but I wanted to get my reasoning out :). You all know me by now ...

I'm not sure when I'll start this one, as I'm still enjoying the Hammerdin so much. Making the move to Pits with him already payed off a bit with an Ist and Lem only a few runs in. Not much, but better than what I got in hundreds of LK runs. XP is also building up steadily, currently at 90.5.
That’s why I ended up retiring my first attempt at this, because Njord the Windy Druid was just so frustrating to play with those darn sporadic Tornadoes. Enjoy your new Barbarian hero. I’m going to start a Necromancer Zookeeper, since it’s my all time favorite build to play I don’t see myself getting tired of him before I get the the coveted 99.
 

RIP

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Just for the info, my Bowzon died while fighting Diablo Normal :eek: two weeks ago, thats 5th dead character already, more then enough for old man...Thus i'm done with this tourney, not saying for good, but certainly for very long time...

I wish all of You best of luck, and enjoy Your journeys, they are always special...

Really enjoyed my 5th? return to this forum, always nice place to be with lots of knowledgeable and friendly people, but its time to leave again

GL, and May the Force be with You ;)
 

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With the awesome additions of the Barbs by @Grape and @Pb_pal – welcome Coke and (reincarnated) Stevesy! – I guess I might as well introduce my melee character and third entry of choice, Lucid the Dreamer-to-be:

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I briefly thought about HC but screw that. :D Here's hoping he will not distract me much from Ric's 99er mission, and once that is done find his runes quickly! :)

EDIT: Sorry to hear @RIP :( hope you will be back!
 
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