The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

Tatterson

Diabloii.Net Member
Holy moly, I never knew that stormshield was this strong. I can do p8 de seis without too much of a worry, and infector is super easy now. I have yet to socket it, but after a few test runs I feel like I will. I don't want to run baal for very much, since I dislike the waiting between the waves. I was going to use an upped mosers with 2 elds or something for decent block and resists (since I barely get any from gear) but I guess ill use the stormshield now that I have it. The test runs I did didn't even use my fine charms, so I guess I'll be slightly faster in the future. I did p8 seals p3 diablo in 2 minutes flat, with the seal refresh trick. 2:20 for a run with seal popping and 1:45 for plain runs or so



Really this update was more for me to get the table thing finally working

Also a new eth grailer


Also I found a sick fine charm of vita from somewhere (either pits or cs)
Fine Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x1bd37a69
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3 to Maximum Damage
+15 to Attack Rating
+16 to Life


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Hall of Fame
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Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
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PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-08-08  Yes     -    481       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-08-26  Yes     -      -      10   <300
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-10-21  Yes  lots    483      13    350+
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   99     3.52  2018-11-12  Yes     -    401      13      -
Questing Heroes
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darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  96     2.84  2018-07-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  96     2.84  2018-10-18  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  96     2.71  2018-04-24  Yes  2529      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
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Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   92     1.92  2018-08-16  No      -      -       -      -
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Neksja           Aurora           SC     Sorc   90     1.70  2018-09-08  Yes     -    215       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-09-20  Yes    78     66      NA     55
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  89     1.49  2018-09-08  Yes     -      -       -      -
Quinneczech      Blackwell        HC     Barb   87     1.29  2018-09-12  -       -      -       0      -
Tatterson        Titaani          SC     Barb   87     1.28  2018-11-20  -       -      -       -      -
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Kitteh           Gwynt            HC     Druid  83           2018-10-28  Yes     -      -       -      -
sanguillen       DirkStruan-UT    HC     Pala   82     0.84  2018-09-25  Yes     -      -       -      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   74     0.40  2018-09-29  Yes     -     37       1     15+
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   58     0.10  2018-11-07  Yes     -      -       -      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   58     0.00  2018-07-22  No      -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Chore            SC     Sin    20     0.00  2018-11-13  Yes     -      -       -      - 
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
MizzouFTW        Hocus            HC     Sorc   01     0.00  2018-10-28  Yes     -      -       -      -
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coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
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Ashenshugar

Diabloii.Net Member
@Tatterson You are clearly on a roll, great stuff!

I managed to hit 97 with Natur, yay!Screenshot109.jpg

An odd level with regards to finds, found 3 Lacerators and 2 Guls. Some other stuff as well, but those are the things that stick out, a Carrion Wind dropped as well.

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Edit: Did a quick run to get some numbers. At Players 8 killing Colenzo's pack up to and including Ventar's pack gained me 147,5k XP. Lister's pack is another 42,3k XP and players 3 Baal was 64,2k XP. Lister and Baal is going to be too slow, they just don't take enough damage for this to be viable. With these numbers I get from anywhere from 1050 to 1807 runs depending on configuration. I suspect that I will start doing Lister's pack and Baal at players 1 just to reduce travelling while still getting XP. I forgot to get numbers for players 1 Lister's pack, so I don't know for sure how many runs I have ahead of me.
 
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T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
@Tatterson Seal refresh trick. 2:20 for a run with seal popping and 1:45 for plain runs? I don't know what the difference is, can you explain?

@PhineasB Nice that finally someone is pushing @Grape to join :rolleyes:. However, we all knew you would be joining with another character anyway (have to get that 99er Sept somehow, right?), so that won't help ;).
 
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T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
Btw, about that new character I will be joining with ... I want some advice :).

As I have stated several times now, the one thing I don't want to do (or at least not a few thousand times) is run LK for Enigma, Infinity, ... I probably won't mind to give it a shot for CtA / HotO if needed, but not 3000+ runs like I'm doing now with my HC Hammerdin.

So, the character I'll be joining with has to have a reasonable shot at finding the runes in the field (Pits, CS, Pindle, ...). I know this isn't efficient in the long run, unless I get very, very lucky, but I don't mind. It's about playing the character and enjoying it, and LK isn't part of that, certainly not on a non-teleporting character, and not after the initial 1000 or so runs, when you usually still need some charms and rares alongside the runes anyway.

So, with that in mind, what would be a good choice for a build? I have already done Sorc, so that one is out. Thinking about it myself, I'm mainly looking for builds that don't need Infinity, as that means another 2x Ber on top of the Enigma. Hence I was thinking of the following:

  • Paladin: start out as a Fanazealot to have something different than my current HC Hammerdin, respec to Hammerdin if I would deed my HC one, otherwise stay a Zealot for the entire journey
  • Barb: I found @zticazzy's Barb Perkele very inspiring. So a WW Barb doing mainly Travincal for runes early on sounds like a plan. However, starting an untwinked Barb at one point where I got so fed up with my HC Hammerdin finding nothing at LK, reminded me how hard the going is early on untwinked. And I suspect it will be a while before I can get some good gear doing Travincal in the first place. So not sure about that.
  • Windy Druid: isn't too hard to get going, I think. But my experience with Windies is limited to 1, a very long time, so I'm not entirely sure about that. I'm also not sure if I'd like him enough to play all the way through 99, as people seem to be either very much in favor of the build, or very much against it, mainly due to the pathing of Tornado

So, yeah, I will certainly join, I can't wait to do so in fact, but I'm not sure yet what to play. So ... I'm looking forward to suggestions, advice, ...

Btw, about ShouldBeEasy: I will do a proper update soon. For now I can tell you that, after 2000 runs without a Sur, during which period almost no other HR dropped either, and over the last 1500 runs not even many Pul+ runes, I got so fed up with LK that I decided to just start running areas again and see where it gets me. I tried some Travincal, CS and Eldritch, but settled on /p8 Pits. Hopefully he'll luck out on a Sur / Ber eventually. Otherwise I'll probably play him until I reach the next level, level 91, and then get back to LK.
 

Pb_pal

Diabloii.Net Member
@Tatterson - Nice stuff!

@Ashenshugar - Congrats on 97!

@T72on1 - This is an interesting question. My take would be that the Windy will be easiest to play in the sense that he can perform best out of the 3 with minimal gear, and likely have the easiest time MFing because of that. He will probably be the fastest of the 3 overall too, other than 98-99 where the Barb will overtake him. The Barb is your best bet to get high end runewords quickly, due to Trav (as you mention). The problem there is gearing him out sufficiently to run them, though that shouldn't be too hard, especially if you spend some time running Meph or something (plus, Oaths are not hard to make, other than finding good bases). Assuming you stay a Zealot, he will likely fall short of both of those characters in efficiency, but damn will he look cool doing it. Zealots can do Trav too, but extra squishyness may be a problem early on. At least all 3 will have similar leveling paths (ie. Ventar/Lister/Baal), so you don't have to make any decisions there.

If I was playing it, I personally would choose a Windy out of the three, as casters will just have a generally easier time Untwinked. I also fall firmly in the "I really like Windys" camp though, so I'm biased there. Barb would be my second choice, and Zealot my third (I don't really like their playstyle). Do you have a Druid you can respec and run with some Windy gear to see if you like it?

What I would like to SEE though, would be the Zealot. I think it could be a super cool character and be a really cool story watching him grow.
 

Tatterson

Diabloii.Net Member
@Tatterson Seal refresh trick. 2:20 for a run with seal popping and 1:45 for plain runs? I don't know what the difference is, can you explain?
Whenever youre finished with all seal bosses, you leave one seal still untouched. Then you teleport back to the entrance of chaos sanctuary, turn around and teleport back to the last seal to pop it. The monsters stay "active" even though youre multiple screens away from them. They stay active for 4-6 seconds or so. With 105 fcr and the inventory screen teleport trick you can make it to the seal without them "deactivating". So effectively, you're killing a bunch of monsters without actually taking the time to kill all of them. Decent way of getting white items, gems, charms and runes. MF doesn't work for these guys, since you don't deal the killing blow. I think p8 has an effect on the nodrop% though.

Btw, about that new character I will be joining with ... I want some advice :).

  • Barb: I found @zticazzy's Barb Perkele very inspiring. So a WW Barb doing mainly Travincal for runes early on sounds like a plan. However, starting an untwinked Barb at one point where I got so fed up with my HC Hammerdin finding nothing at LK, reminded me how hard the going is early on untwinked. And I suspect it will be a while before I can get some good gear doing Travincal in the first place. So not sure about that.
If you do a barb, plan out your socket quests and don't give much thought to saving the ancients quest. As for the actual leveling, it is slow but its not that bad. I went a really unoptimal route with swords (and being determined not to respec) so it took me probably 5 or 10 extra hours to get to hell act 3. If you decide to play a barb (which you should) then I'd go polearms from the get go. Insight and Obedience are really strong and cheap. The speedrunners use a war cry barb to complete the game "fast" (+10 hours lol) so you might want to look into that.
 

PhineasB

Diabloii.Net Member
@Ashenshugar - congrats on hitting 97. Nice steady progress, and cool to see another class represented in the last couple levels with you and @Pb_pal

@T72on1 - I agree with @Pb_pal although I would lean to the Barb for a couple reasons: (1) no need for CtA, and really don't need HoTO with decent unique drops; (2) dual Oath starter kit and lower p-setting will allow farming Council as primary search for runes (hork is always p7 anyway); (3) hork, in general, makes for added speed to early gearing progression, especially starting in late NM/early Hell; (4) Insight is easy to make and allows lots of horking without mana issues; (5) War Cry / berserk is a great equalizer for questing/early leveling in areas, and coupled with WW I think would be a nice build progression up to runes for dual oath; and (6) no need to deal from frustration of Tornado :rolleyes:

That's the route I would to follow with the Barb, and may end up following if I make it that far. Good luck!
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
I am also debating between Windy Druid and Zealot/Smiter (but melee all the way) as a possible third entry. :) Though I don't mind farming LK either way.

Whenever youre finished with all seal bosses, you leave one seal still untouched. Then you teleport back to the entrance of chaos sanctuary, turn around and teleport back to the last seal to pop it. The monsters stay "active" even though youre multiple screens away from them. They stay active for 4-6 seconds or so. With 105 fcr and the inventory screen teleport trick you can make it to the seal without them "deactivating". So effectively, you're killing a bunch of monsters without actually taking the time to kill all of them. Decent way of getting white items, gems, charms and runes. MF doesn't work for these guys, since you don't deal the killing blow. I think p8 has an effect on the nodrop% though.
What's the difference between that and just popping the last seal (without teleporting back)? Does this give you XP from the remaining monsters?
 

Tatterson

Diabloii.Net Member
I am also debating between Windy Druid and Zealot/Smiter (but melee all the way) as a possible third entry. :) Though I don't mind farming LK either way.


What's the difference between that and just popping the last seal (without teleporting back)? Does this give you XP from the remaining monsters?
Just normally popping the last seal only kills the currently active mobs, which are the ones near you. With teleporting back to entrance and back you activate all the monsters from the entrace to the star, near the star and around the last seal. Then you zigzag back the way you came to see if any good stuff dropped. Ill try to record a video

Doesn't give exp, just loot

Here is a video

The Redeemer
Mighty Scepter
One Hand Damage: 151 - 197
Durability: 29 of 50
Required Level: 72
Required Strength: 50
Required Dexterity: 26
Fingerprint: 0xb85205fe
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
279% Enhanced Damage
Damage +108
-33% Target Defense
+240% Damage to Demons
+150% Damage to Undead
+3 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+4 to Holy Bolt (Paladin Only)
+3 to Light Radius
Requirements -60%

also as off-topic, you also need to see this magnificent beast I've made in 2015
 
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T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
@Tatterson Thanks for the video. Sounds interesting, but not my cup of tea. I like things rather straightforward. But interesting nonetheless.

@Pb_pal I could respec a Druid yes, that might be a good idea to try it out.

@PhineasB Do I read there that you will go Barb? At least that's what I take from that last sentence ;).

If that is the case, and @ffs is debating between Windy and Zealot, I could also say I'll just take whichever is left, so we get to see the leveling of a WW Barb, a Windy and a Zealot, as future reference for others :).
 

Pb_pal

Diabloii.Net Member
FWIW - I'm also leaning melee for my entry. Though I'm not positive what yet. I don't like Whirlwind at all, but I'd be open to another type of Barb. All I know for sure is that it will be HC and melee, my old Stevesy must be avenged properly after all. ;)
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
Well @Grape only checks these forums once in a few days, I think. So it's not that unusual. Having said that, I think in this case he will suddenly appear again in a few days, to tell us all that he has joined and has done some minor leveling, leaving him at level 95 somewhere at the top of the table. 'Oh yes, and I also found Tyrael's and a Zod on the way', he will let us know.

Btw, @Grape, how does it feel to come back after a few days and have 100+ alerts? ;)
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
Indeed he seems to only visit here once in a few days, which begs the question @Grape do you not have a phone? :)

So I've decided I am starting a Dream/Physical Zealot as my third entry. Will introduce him once there is some progress to report. Since I'm still trying to finish the Necro within the next ~6 weeks or so there won't be much of that early on. Generally he will have very slim chances of ever hitting 99, but I really enjoy the untwinked experience and gearing up all the way to crazy gear, so why not have him run here whether he makes it or not. ;)

Plan is this:
  • First stops likely at NM Meph and NM Pindle to grab a semi-decent weapon before entering Hell.
  • Next stop Hell LK for the runes for Enigma and CtA, and hopefully Grief. But will take CM or Oath if no Lo drops.
  • Hell Meph for essential S&Us. Will be looking in particular for String of Ears and LoH for the Pally, and especially Reaper's, Guardian Angel and Kira's for Merc.
  • Travincal for two Jahs and Lo (if LK didn't deliver).
  • Baal runs until 98
  • Smiting Nihl for 98-99
Reasoning: From the Zealots I built so far, hybrid Dream/Grief variant was the strongest overall, and pairs well with a teleporting melee Pally (not using Fortitude). I found it to be more balanced than the pure Dream/CM variant due to good leech and extra punch in particular vs. Demons with LoH, while not sacrificing much kill speed vs. broken LIs. Damage output is higher than that of a pure physical Zealot, and AoE from Dreams will be very helpful in speeding up Baal runs. Travincal is an attractive target to get those Jahs after Enigma, as opposed to LK it grants decent XP along the way until early 90s, and Zealot can run it rather well. So, pretty sure this will work out, but gearing up might take a little longer this time. :)
 

AlexTheNextOne

Diabloii.Net Member
Maybe that's what I need to do, run LK repeatedly for those runes for something like Enigma. Been trying to Hell Meph for a little while now but it's a tad slow.
 

Bobbo

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So I started an untwinked hc barb. Since he’s untwinked, I guess I’ll add him here once I’ve gotten him to a somewhat respectable level.

Currently I’m in the inner cloister at lvl 42 running on low p-settings. I’m aiming for Andy for now to make a pitstop to gather some gear to get me to Meph.

Any ideas on a decent zerk weapon? Currently I’m running with a blue partizan and both damage and safety feels lacking. I did just make a rhyme though, so I’m looking for something 1-handed... would honor be a decent alternative? Can I find 5-socket bases this early on?
 

Grape

Diabloii.Net Member
Lol, thanks for the support guys! :D No pressure...

Well @Grape only checks these forums once in a few days, I think. So it's not that unusual. Having said that, I think in this case he will suddenly appear again in a few days, to tell us all that he has joined and has done some minor leveling, leaving him at level 95 somewhere at the top of the table. 'Oh yes, and I also found Tyrael's and a Zod on the way', he will let us know.

Btw, @Grape, how does it feel to come back after a few days and have 100+ alerts? ;)
Haha, by now I'm used to those alerts building up from time to time, but just imagine what it would be for @Gripphon by now.

My precious D2 time is sometimes quite limited so I make most of it by playing a bit and possibly quickly scanning through forums :) I check the forums about daily but when I'm not going to stay it's only short lurking instead of loggin in etc, heh.

SO, to the main issue at hand:
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I can tell you I had a very strong instinct to go straight to the GoMule and start picking some random twinking gear for him... probably a good time for me to do an untwinked character for a change, especially a melee one.

Why Barb? First of all my new Sept is going to need a big big bunch of runes. My plan is to have this entry as my main Travi runner for a while, gathering some good enough equipment for his own end game, as well as some extra runes for my other characters.

Secondly, I have level 95 Necromancer and Druid twinked (with rather great gear I must admit), which I intend to run some more Pits etc. with in the future as well. I also plan to take one of my twinked Assasins towards levels 95-97.

Between all this, I still can see a use for a really high level Barb (hopefully 99 one day), for example participating in an MFO. So, doesn't this sound as a win-win-win, and this won't be time wasted, no? Not so sure, but let's carry on...

Coke has a hazy future ahead, but I think I'll go towards WW from the beginning.
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
Woohoooo !!!! Gogo @Grape !!

Hmm, you take a Barb too, probably WW. Well, I was leaning towards that as well, but with you taking Barb, @ffs taking a melee Paladin and @Pb_pal going melee as well, maybe I should go for that Windy after all. Decisions, decisions ... I'll make up my mind in a few days, maybe even sooner.

@ffs Nice choice of character. Good luck !! I'm sure you'll do great with him.

@Bobbo Very cool, yet another entrant !! This thread keeps to be full of win. And levels ... . HC Barb definitely is a brave choice. Certainly when going with Berserk. Honor would definitely be a good choice early on, although you'll want better afterwards obviously. 5os weapons should be able to drop in early NM I think.
 
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