The Untwinked Level 99 Progress Thread, Revenge of the 99ers

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
@Yng I was also using Treachery when running Nihl to get the proc faster, but actually a 60 IAS armor hits the next BP on the standard attack with a -10 WSM weapon. I realized that quite late, and at the time I had burned through all my (dispensable) jewels to craft amulets, including plain 15 IAS ones. :rolleyes: Of course it would have been pointless to pick up jewels while running Nihl, so I just used Treachery until the end. But its other stats apart from the IAS are pretty much useless for these runs. The FHR was put to use every once in a while, but I would have definitely preferred the next BP for the occasional faster proc. It's a small upgrade, but could be worthwhile if you have a couple of 15 IAS jewels lying around (ideally with other useful stats ofc, but even plain I would have used).
 

Yng

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That’s actually a really good idea I hadn’t considered.
I also thought about rolling a Treachery in a Breast Plate for minimum defense/better chance to proc Fade as that has 15 DR/69? RES (can’t remember off the top of my head)/79% curse duration reduction and defense is practically useless for Nihlathak, although hitting that next break point is probably better.
 

ffs

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That's another aspect where people took different routes actually. I went for high defense/least chance to get hit for the Merc, using eth bugged Delirium and Treachery bases. I've seen others doing the opposite, using non-eth items, presumably mostly to maximize the chance to proc Mind Blast and Terror from Delirium. I for one preferred the Merc to have a lower chance to get hit or interrupted, but I don't know the exact theorycrafting on this...
 

Yng

Diabloii.Net Member
Well Melee physical damage in general is just not that threatening to Merc at the platform. Also his Jab may be uninterruptible?

E: also I’m seeing the breakpoints for Merc with Jab are 42 and then 75 so a 4 IAS jewel Armor won’t meet that next frame with Infinity/Delirium. The standard attack will go from 11 frame to 10 frame (30 and 52 IAS required respectively) but IIRC he’s more likely to Jab.

E2: Jab won’t be interrupted by hit recovery once the first attack in the sequence has been executed according to https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Jab

Think I’m going to reroll both Delirium and Treachery into minimal defense bases, better chance to proc Fade/MB/Terror is pretty undeniably better especially considering FHR is based on taking a certain % of total HP pool and the Merc naturally has a high HP pool/there’s very few sources of big damage at the platform. 3 socket Mask, 3 socket Breast Plate are the most efficient for this purpose if anyone was wondering.
 
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ffs

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Like I said 60% IAS hits the next BP on standard attack, not Jab. The chance for him to use Jab is 85%, so it only affects the 15% when he uses the normal attack, but I considered that enough to be better than Treachery because I really only used it for the IAS. Fade is irrelevant IMO. Very low chance to trigger and the Merc isn't (at least shouldn't) be dependent on it anyway, so I didn't see any benefit in having it e.g. trigger 2/50 instead of 1/50 runs or so.

Regarding Merc defense, it's not that simple. Indeed Jab is not interruptible once started, but still it's not uncommon for Merc attacks to be delayed (e.g. being hit by chargers), thereby reducing Confuse procs. Confuse is by far the most useful of Delirium's CtC effects, so to me it seemed more beneficial to maximize its chance to proc. The other effects also proc less frequently, so I felt there's less to be gained in trying to increase their chances of being triggered. Of course they still do also with eth bugged bases, it's not a massive difference in his defense/chance to get hit anyway (though it does help his survivability also). So it basically comes down to slightly more Confuse procs vs. slightly more Mind Blast/Terror procs. No idea how to express that in numbers, must be a rather complicated equation. ;) But based on mere observations and utility of these effects, I'd prefer the former.

This is really splitting hairs of course, but that was my reasoning.
 

Yng

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Treachery is 1/20 chance (when struck) to proc Fade, it’s proc’ing for me like 1/10 runs at least with both bases eth bugged. It’ll proc from Viper and Succubus missiles too.

Splitting hairs is what it’s all about! Wish that were a paying profession.
 
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AlexTheNextOne

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Update:

Hall of Fame
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Questing Heroes
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Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   98.50  3.37  2018-06-05  Yes  2190    477      13    300+
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   98.50  3.37  2018-07-22  Yes  8606    464       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   98.3   3.31  2018-07-14  Yes     -      -       9      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   98.1   3.26  2018-07-10  Yes     -    370      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  97     2.96  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      - 
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   96     2.85  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  96     2.71  2018-04-24  Yes  2529      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  95     2.60  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.11  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  93     2.09  2018-06-21  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    93     2.09  2018-07-03  Yes     -    272       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-07-04  No      -      -       -      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   90     0.00  2018-07-11  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  89     1.56  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   8_8    1.36  2018-06-26  Yes    59     52      NA     42
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   85     1.11  2018-05-28  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  74     0.00  2018-07-25  Yes     -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   49     0.00  2018-07-22  No     14      -       0     26
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   30     0.00  2018-07-22  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
Resting Heroes
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Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    93     2.10  2018-02-05  Yes    80      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    160       -      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Rayne            SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   195    140       -      ?
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   48     0.01  2018-02-24  Yes     -      8       -      9
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -

The Fallen
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Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
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Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1

Alright, /p8 Normal has been completed! It was a blast to go through and clear every single map like I used to do back when I was a kid, and now it's time to get ready to do it two more times!

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First things I'll need to look out for in NM now I suppose are a serviceable weapon, a few good socketed Paladin shields so I can make Rhyme and Ancient's Pledge, and once my base physical damage is good enough, consider switching over to Fanatisicm, though I've been having lots of fun with Holy Freeze as it is.
 

Neksja

Diabloii.Net Member
Nice progress @AlexTheNextOne!

As for a weapon, Black runeword might be an option? Highest rune required is Io, which you could farm from Countess (her NM special drop goes as high as Io). Decent stats, 120%ed, 40% Crushing Blow, 15% IAS. Maybe if you can find a 3 socket Knout, that could take you through most of NM I think? There are some Uniques that might work, such as Butcher's Pupil (Unique Cleaver), Headstriker (Unique Battle Sword), just to name two from the top of my head. There are others, but might require some farming from Andariel or maybe you could just push through to Mephisto and farm there, he does have a chance to drop HoZ already in NM, so maybe you'll get lucky? He can drop some pretty decent Exceptional gear that should get you through the rest of NM and possibly through early Hell, where you can start looking into getting better gear through runewords and Elite Sets/Uniques.

edit.

Forgot to mention that Aura has been slowly creeping towards the end, I'll provide an update early next week I think when the MF/RF tournament has been concluded and results are in. Just not to spoil everyone with my less than ideal scores!
 

AlexTheNextOne

Diabloii.Net Member
I forgot to mention, I had taken a quick look at @Kitteh's Holy Freeze guide before starting this journey, and as a result, had been using a "Steel" Flail for most of the playthrough, switching to "Strength" for bosses because of the CB. Loved how fast Steel was in particular, and the general range of the flail.
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
After finishing the MF/RF tourney, I went back to my 99er Necro who had just hit 97 before the tournament started. Hoping to find an alternative to Baal runs, I spent several hours thoroughly testing various approaches of running Diablo, Baal and Nihlathak. Once more, the XP tables by @NanoMist were very helpful in quickly determining how the different runs compare in terms of efficiency.

Long story short, as a result I'm going to continue to run Baal for 97-98 mainly for safety reasons, before switching to Nihl for 98-99, if I ever get there. :)

Nonetheless I thought I'd share the testing and results, since it may be helpful in particular for other Necromancers in later levels, and I tested quite a lot of stuff. Walls of text in spoilers incoming. ;)

Build: Beast Summoner
Run time: ~4m to ~4m30s (estimated average: 4m15s = 255s)
Runs needed for 97-98: ~ 1050

I took this as my benchmark. For 97-98, including Baal in the runs outperforms ending the runs at Ventar (or Lister, for that matter), which at least has the upside of somewhat better drops.

No build tweaking in this case. I had previously tested running with a (twinked) Poison Nova build and concluded Summoner is faster, mostly due to wave 5 having very high poison resistance.

Build 1: Beast Summoner
Build 2: Hoto Summoner (125% FCR), Beast in inventory swapped in when fighting Diablo

Run time: ~1m30s to ~1m45s (estimated average: 1m40s = 100s)
Runs needed for 97-98: ~3180. Time needed to beat Baal: ~85s
50% XP shrine rate: ~2290 runs. Time needed to beat Baal: ~115s
33% XP shrine rate: ~2530 runs. Time needed to beat Baal: ~106s
25% XP shrine rate: ~2660 runs. Time needed to beat Baal: ~100s

I expected the second approach (Hoto + swapping in Beast) to be noticeably faster, but that didn't seem to be the case. Merc kills being slightly slower while clearing the seals apparently evens out the lower summons level and FCR. It's also much more tedious and weapon switching loses a couple of seconds, so I think the Beast only approach works best in my case.

As can be seen from the XP shrine rate numbers, this is better than Baal with an XP shrine rate on kill of ~30% or higher. A 50% rate would be relatively clearly better, but I don't know if that's possible. I was nowhere near that and more at ~30% on the best map I rolled.

It's also more dangerous than Baal of course, both for summons and the Necro. Even during my relatively short period of testing I suffered a death teleporting into a group of monsters near De Seis. Diablo's fire storm can also hit very hard and is pretty dangerous to Merc, IG and other summons. It can be dodged, but it generally requires concentration fighting him, and I replaced the IG several times nonetheless...

I didn't test this much, it was quite clear from the start that this is not the most efficient in my case. The IG has trouble surviving clearing the seals despite max Golem Mastery, and Infector and his FI entourage the damage of CE suffers noticeably. Overall I quickly concluded it just takes too long.

Maybe a Nova spec could do this, my untwinked Necro only has one P&B skiller and no DWeb. I know Gripp concluded this was very efficient for a Novamancer, but he expressly stated he didn't compare it to Baal Summoner numbers. Personally I have doubts this is the most efficient approach, given the high poison resist of most monsters in the CS and having the same issues with CE being weak on P8 vs FIs.

I am curious if @PhineasB can make this work with the gear on his Novamancer.

This was super interesting.

In particular I tested for the 98-99 stage, but I figured why not check out if this is viable for 97-98 already. I used a twinked Necro and respec'ed/regeared him numerous times, always using gear available to my untwinked Necro.

First of all the overall conclusion: Sub-30s runs are definitely possible with a Novamancer build, provided no S&E lag. I only used one P&B skiller and no DWeb, so with these it should be faster still. In any case I am sure this is the best approach for 98-99. As for 97-98, it is very similar to P8/P3 Baal runs (or P1/P7 Diablo with a ~25-30% XP shrine rate):

Runs needed for 97-98: ~8600. Time needed to beat Baal: ~31s
Checking 2 shrines: ~8200. Time needed to beat Baal: ~32.7s
Checking 3 shrines: ~8000. Time needed to beat Baal: ~33.5s

Due to Baal being so much safer, I figured I'll only hit Nihl for 98-99. But it was interesting to see it's in fact a good option for 97-98.

I also checked out the tests performed by scrcrw who was using Bone Spear, running without Merc. He tried both Bone Prison and Confuse/Dim Vision to provide the necessary safety. I quickly discarded Bone Spear altogether though. It just doesn't kill fast enough, and my untwinked Nec only has one P&B skiller anyway. As summons are out for these short runs, I'm pretty sure an approach around PN is the way to go for Nihl, in conjunction with a strong Merc to start CEs quickly. I tested these setups and strategies:

Build 1: Beast Novamancer with Infinity Merc
Build 2: Hoto/White Novamancer with Infinity Merc
Build 3: Hoto Novamancer without Merc
Build 4: White Novamancer without Merc

All builds were 125% FCR. I quickly felt this was the best approach, not only to teleport to Nihl faster but also to win the CE battle against him. Difference between those setups were mostly down to defensive stats, and Fanaticism vs higher PN damage.

I figured curses play a crucial rule in running him, and tried the following sequences after landing at his platform:
Dim Vision -> Attract -> Amp -> spam CE
Dim Vision -> Attract -> LR -> spam CE
Confuse -> Attract -> Amp -> spam CE
Confuse -> Attract -> LR -> spam CE

LR and Amp were treated differently to the extent that Amp was only used right before starting the CE chain. LR on the other hand I often cast earlier, namely if there were no Vipers around and no crowd control (Confuse) was necessary. In case of Vipers/other type of danger, I switched to LR only just before the first CE, same as Amp.

I quickly noticed that
(1) Attract helps a ton in terms of safety, diverting monster attacks while preparing to spam CE,
(2) Confuse is doing much more for safety than Dim Vision, way fewer attacks hitting the Merc or Necro, and
(3) using Infinity Merc is faster (and more comfortable) than running without Merc.

The choice of weapons (Hoto, Beast, +6 PN White) barely had an effect on run times. I will be suing Beast because sometimes Nihl survives the CE onslaught. In such case telestomping him with the Merc is the fastest way to finish the run, and Beast is best for that. Though he doesn't have DWeb, which is probably a little stronger overall.

So it came down to using LR vs using Amp. Run times were almost the same in my testing. However, I think theoretically LR should be better. Nihl has 70% PR naturally, so LR does a lot for you in lowering that. Again this might be different with Death's Web, where Amp should be a little stonger overall.

One word on the IG: He died too often in my test runs. But the character I used was only lvl 87 and didn't have spare points to pump Golem Mastery, so he might survive well with Golem Mastery. I ended up running without IG potting mana in his runs. Just something to bear in mind.

A final crazy idea: How about BotD for Merc!? :D:p My untwinked Necro found two Zod runes, and I'm thining Infinity "only" helps CE unless Nihl rolls unbreakable FI. I don't have a suitable BotD base at the moment, but it might be an upgrade over Infinity, providing the first corpse (and finishing FI Nihl) faster.
 

PhineasB

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I am curious if @PhineasB can make this work with the gear on his Novamancer.
I have not been able to make CS runs work with him actually, although I am going to give it one more shot when he reaches 97. He has one more skiller than the last time I tried, and some charm upgrades, so we'll see. For whatever reason, he hasn't been able to get corpses fast enough to avoid getting swarmed and has to spend too much teleporting around to avoid hits.

I am strongly considering Nihl as an option for 97-98. In my earlier test runs, he was pretty engaging and not too dangerous, with only a couple aborted runs over the ~120 runs I did in search of Nihl GCs for cubing. I'd have to go back and check, but I am pretty sure that I just stuck with HoTo for 125 FCR set up instead of DWeb due to vita and resists, which are now less of problem with charm upgrades.

Pit runs are the other option, as he's getting around 9M/hour now that I've dropped MF charms and replaced with vita SCs to allow more aggressive telestomping. When he completely abandons MF gear upon reaching 97, he could pick up even more vita with Aldurs and a ~30 life ring for Nagel. Notwithstanding his death during the end of 95-96, it's safe and casual and will be even more so with more vita. Rough estimate of current XP/hour with the extra penalties at level 97 would still have at ~4M/hr, which isn't about where Mercy was with her Baal runs at that point.

But we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves, as he still has half the level to go in in the Pit. I'll do a full update with MFO warmup tourney closes so I can include finds from 95.5-96.5. Thanks for sharing the testing/data @ffs -- cool to see and it will helpful as he gets closer.
 

ffs

Diabloii.Net Member
Good point, I forgot about Pit. In my case it's still not too bad either actually. It lags behind the other targets by some ~20-25% in terms of XP. The map itself has good density and there are 3 shrines on the way down there (otherwise it would be much worse). But at this stage it's hard to justify running it despite the much better drops, 20% translates into ~14 hours. :) I probably will continue visiting it from time to time though, whenever I'm fed up with Baal. Nova is faster running Pit than Summoner, so indeed it might be more or less equal in terms of XP (and thus better due to its drops) in your case. As if you need more drops. ;)
 

Trapin'

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Hall of Fame
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Questing Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   98.50  3.37  2018-06-05  Yes  2190    477      13    300+
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   98.50  3.37  2018-07-22  Yes  8606    464       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   98.3   3.31  2018-07-14  Yes     -      -       9      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   98.1   3.26  2018-07-10  Yes     -    370      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  97     2.96  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      - 
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   96     2.85  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  96     2.71  2018-04-24  Yes  2529      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  95     2.60  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.11  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  93     2.09  2018-06-21  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    93     2.09  2018-07-03  Yes     -    272       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-07-04  No      -      -       -      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   90     0.00  2018-07-11  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  89     1.56  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   8_8    1.36  2018-06-26  Yes    59     52      NA     42
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   85     1.11  2018-05-28  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  74     0.00  2018-07-25  Yes     -      -       -      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   49     0.00  2018-07-22  No     14      -       0     26
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   30     0.00  2018-07-22  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
Resting Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    93     2.10  2018-02-05  Yes    80      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    160       -      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Rayne            SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   195    140       -      ?
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   48     0.01  2018-02-24  Yes     -      8       -      9
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -

The Fallen
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1

Alright, /p8 Normal has been completed! It was a blast to go through and clear every single map like I used to do back when I was a kid, and now it's time to get ready to do it two more times!

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First things I'll need to look out for in NM now I suppose are a serviceable weapon, a few good socketed Paladin shields so I can make Rhyme and Ancient's Pledge, and once my base physical damage is good enough, consider switching over to Fanatisicm, though I've been having lots of fun with Holy Freeze as it is.
Ah love seeing updates for a zealot :) reminds me of the early days of ceegee. If I recall correctly I mostly used runewords till i found a nice rare that took me through hell. Once I got to act 3 hell I farmed LK and hell meph to get most of my gear. Still farming to find a HoZ and better weapon so that I can grind xp during baal runs or CS
 

sanguillen

Diabloii.Net Member
Hall of Fame
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Questing Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   98.50  3.37  2018-06-05  Yes  2190    477      13    300+
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   98.50  3.37  2018-07-22  Yes  8606    464       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   98.3   3.31  2018-07-14  Yes     -      -       9      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   98.1   3.26  2018-07-10  Yes     -    370      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  97     2.96  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      - 
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   96     2.85  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  96     2.71  2018-04-24  Yes  2529      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  95     2.60  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.11  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  93     2.09  2018-06-21  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    93     2.09  2018-07-03  Yes     -    272       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-07-04  No      -      -       -      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   90     0.00  2018-07-11  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  89     1.56  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   8_8    1.36  2018-06-26  Yes    59     52      NA     42
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   85     1.11  2018-05-28  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  81     0.80  2018-07-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   49     0.00  2018-07-22  No     14      -       0     26
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   30     0.00  2018-07-22  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
Resting Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    93     2.10  2018-02-05  Yes    80      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    160       -      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Rayne            SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   195    140       -      ?
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   48     0.01  2018-02-24  Yes     -      8       -      9
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -

The Fallen
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1

Early in Hell (as in just past the Cold Plains waypoint), a Lum rune dropped off a random unique so it immediately went into a Smoke Serpentskin Armor. :). Will post pics and updated stats and equipment shortly, as well as details of my Journey into Hell so far, but I wanted to take this opportunity to ask a rather silly question. I just noticed that Raise Skeleton gets bonuses from Summon Resist. What bonuses does Summon Resist provide Raise Skeleton?
 

T72on1

Diabloii.Net Member
Summon Resist provides extra resists to Skeletons.

With the MF/RF done, and some xp gained, it's time to give an update for Neverland. Not that there is that much to say, but I managed to get to 3.420M xp, so 'only' 100M to go.

The good thing is that the tournament really gave me a much needed boost to pick up Neverland again. I had less time to play than I had hoped for, but even then I'm happy with my progress. Moreover, ever since hitting the 3.400M mark, it's suddenly much easier to digest for me mentally. That sounds heavier than it's meant to be, I just mean that ever since I hit that milestone, level 99 finally actually seems within reach. The tournament taught me that with some dedicated play time, progress can actually be quite smooth, unlike in the previous period, where I'd play Neverland on and off, resulting in what seemed like no progress at all xp wise. Now the next milestone is 3.500M, which should require some 27 hours. Sounds reasonable, no? After that it's the last small stretch.

Drops were posted in the MF/RF thread. And will be, once the result thread is up :). I didn't get much beyond qualifiers, as I hardly picked up anything else.

I'm not sure what I'll do next. Probably take a break from Neverland for the remaining 5 days before we go on holiday. After that I think it's MFO time, so it will be some time before I'll actually make progress again. In the next 5 days I might play ShouldBeEasy some more, take my PitBarb out for a spin to practice for the MFO, continue Neverland or start questing a character, something I've been meaning to do for a while now, as a break from all the dedicated running.

Hall of Fame
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
zticazzy         Perkele          SC     Barb   99     3.52  2016-07-12  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Eleanor          SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2016-11-09  No   3068    437       5      -
NanoMist         Izuna            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2016-12-25  No   5109    470       4    360
PhineasB         Mercy            SC     Sin    99     3.52  2017-05-23  Yes     -    475      11      -
PhineasB         Hiatus           SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2017-12-25  Yes     -    471      21      -
ffs              HelpYourself     SC     Sorc   99     3.52  2018-04-29  Yes     -    447       -      -
Questing Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
T72on1           Neverland        SC     Sorc   98.66  3.42  2018-07-29  Yes  lots    480      13    300+
Neksja           Aura             SC     Pala   98.50  3.37  2018-07-22  Yes  8606    464       -      -
Yng              Sophie           SC     Sorc   98.3   3.31  2018-07-14  Yes     -      -       9      -
PhineasB         Phaedrus         SC     Pala   98.1   3.26  2018-07-10  Yes     -    370      13      -
ffs              Ric              SC     Necro  97     2.96  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
darkstarhub      Neptune          SC     Sorc   97     2.96  2018-07-23  Yes     -    470       -      - 
Bewitch          itssoftcore      SC     Sorc   96     2.85  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ashenshugar      Natur            SC     Druid  96     2.71  2018-04-24  Yes  2529      -       -      -
Gynli            Amazon           SC     Ama    96     2.71  2018-06-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
PhineasB         Pestilence       SC     Necro  95     2.60  2018-07-10  Yes     -      -       -      -
CrustyRusty      Space_Oddity     SC     Ama    95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Ayura            SC     Barb   93     2.11  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
Pb_pal           Klaus            HC     Druid  93     2.09  2018-06-21  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Kaira_II         HC     Sin    93     2.09  2018-07-03  Yes     -    272       -      -
Lord Molybdenum  Verisimilitude   SC     Ama    90     1.62  2018-06-02  No     98     77       3      -
Trapin'          ceegee           SC     Pala   90     1.62  2018-07-04  No      -      -       -      -
Hutton           Terrahork        HC     Barb   90     0.00  2018-07-11  Yes     -      -       -      -
Zenigma          Gnosis           SC     Druid  89     1.56  2018-04-26  No      -      -       -      -
T72on1           ShouldBeEasy     HC     Pala   8_8    1.36  2018-06-26  Yes    59     52      NA     42
Lord Molybdenum  Cruise_Control   SC     Necro  87     1.25  2018-06-02  No    128    101      22      -
Burgomaster3     Hastur           SC     Druid  86     1.14  2018-07-02  Yes     -      -       -      -
Smittyphi        TheLongRun       SC     Sorc   85     1.11  2018-05-28  Yes    30      -     Yes      -
DaveW            Long_Term        SC     Sorc   84     0.97  2018-05-02  Yes Heaps      -    Lots     30+
sanguillen       GordonChen-UT    HC     Necro  81     0.80  2018-07-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
Xul's Gull       Xul              HC     Necro  81     0.74  2018-03-26  No      -      -       -      -
Vildecor         Trina            SC     Ama    80     0.68  2018-06-07  Yes     -      -       0      -
ioupainmax       Durnik           SC     Pala   79     0.63  2018-06-28  Yes   177    111       0      -
Burton Roberts   Arizona          SC     Ama    56     0.08  2018-06-12  No      -      -      15     38
Lord Molybdenum  Essa             SC     Sorc   55     0.08  2018-06-02  No     20     19       5      -
AlexTheNextOne   Orion            SC     Pala   49     0.00  2018-07-22  No     14      -       0     26
Pijus            AGoodBoy         HC     Druid  45     0.00  2018-05-29  Yes     -      -       -      -
kstuart          Nena             SC     Sorc   30     0.00  2018-07-22  Yes     -      -       -      -
RIP              Espada           HC     Necro  24     0.00  2018-06-01  Yes     -     13       -      -
DaveHutt         Alice            SC     Ama    13     0.00  2018-05-18  Yes     -      -       1      -
Resting Heroes
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
hasuprotoss      Reina            SC     Sorc   97     2.96  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1751    384       -      -
Tarantella       Tarasha          HC     Sorc   96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Grim             Furious_Blonde   SC     Ama    96     2.72  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
XyleneCyanol     Fishie           HC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
ThomasJohnsen    xInTheBuffx      HC     Sorc   95     2.49  2017-03-31  Yes     -      -       -      -
NamelessPenguin  Rockatansky      SC     Barb   95     2.49  2017-12-14  Yes     -      -       -      -
Dezrok           Salome           SC     Sorc   95     2.49  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   792    318       -      -
Reyz             Qty              SC     Sorc   93     2.10  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -
Me2Nik           Fugu             HC     Ama    93     2.10  2018-02-05  Yes    80      -       -      -
Chaostar         Prairie          SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   659    261      12    126
OldSoldier       Battleforge      HC     Pala   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    236       -      -
kyndig           DrearyAura       HC     Sorc   91     1.76  2018-02-20  Yes     -      -       -      -
tokerdin         tokeress         SC     Sorc   91     1.76  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Southpaw         Njord            SC     Druid  90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Qwernt           CanbeOnlyBlizz   SC     Sorc   90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?      ?
MercMan          Este             SC     Ama    90     1.62  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes  1212    278       2      ?
Lynchgrinch      Tattersail       SC     Sorc   89     1.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    321       ?      ?
LiquidClear      Sally            SC     Sin    **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   225      -       1      -
liquid_mage      zDadColdSorc     SC     Sorc   **     1.36  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -    160       -      -
Neksja           Turirao          SC     Druid  87     1.25  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   191    124       5      -
Gladstone        Socrates         HC     Druid  86     1.15  YYYY-MM-DD  -       -      -       -      -
hackedagainanda  Hugo             HC     Necro  85     1.05  2017-12-17  Yes     -      -       -      -
Naturallog       Athos            HC     Barb   84     0.96  YYYY-MM-DD  No    159    105       0      -
Qwernt           AmaAgainstAll    SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Gambit           Mallenroh        SC     Sorc   81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Lord Molybdenum  But_Why          SC     Sin    81     0.74  YYYY-MM-DD  No     55     51      53      -
aarrgus          Acala            SC     Barb   80     0.68  2017-12-30  Yes     -      -       5      -
Jean Avila       SpeedAdict       SC     Ama    77     0.52  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -     50
logoutzero       Digimon          HC     Necro  76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes    85     65       0      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Rayne            SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes   195    140       -      ?
Gripphon         Ryu              SC     Sorc   76     0.48  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       ?     13
Darke Rahl       Bells            HC     Ama    74     0.40  YYYY-MM-DD  No     19      -       0      -
Smittyphi        SliceNDice       SC     Sin    70     0.30  2018-03-27  Yes    15      -       6      -
Xul's Gull       Araphel          HC     Necro  60     0.12  2017-12-21  No      -      -       -      -
Sleepybear123    Rob_theBarb      HC     Barb   50     0.05  2018-01-06  Yes     -      -       -     10
Klonki           Dualizt_Ann      SC     Sorc   48     0.01  2018-02-24  Yes     -      8       -      9
TrU              Henryk           SC     Barb   41     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -      22     12
Gambit           Colossus         SC     Pala   39     0.02  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     0      0       0      0
Smancer          Smancer          SC     Necro  26     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     1      -       -      -
drmalawi         Liv              SC     Sorc   24     0.00  2018-05-01  Yes     -      -       0      -
BKC              FearsomeFreddie  SC     Necro  23     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  Yes     -      -       -      -
Ergroilnin       Erilinda         HC     Sorc   20     0.00  YYYY-MM-DD  No      -      -       -      -

The Fallen
Rich (BB code):
Forumite         Character        SC/HC  Class  Level  Exp   Date        E/S  S/U   Grail  Deaths  Hours
---------------  ---------------  -----  -----  -----  ----  ----------  ---  ----  -----  ------  -----
Bewitch          itsreal          HC     Sorc   87     1.xx  2018-04-24  No      -      -       -      -
MizzouFTW        Pure             HC     Necro  86     1.15  2018-01-10  Yes     -      -       1      -
Vildecor         Celia            HC     Ama    84     0.99  2018-05-30  Yes   125     97       1      -
coju             NintyNine_orRiP  HC     Sorc   81     0.74  2016-04-07  Yes     -      -       1      -
TwentyMuleTeam   Valus            HC     Barb   76     0.48  2016-10-27  Yes     -      -       1      -
Pb_pal           Stevesy          HC     Pala   76     0.48  2017-06-19  Yes     -      -       1      -
weezaard         Cypher           SC     Druid  66     0.00  2018-02-21  Yes     -      -      20+     -
Tenecabo         OldShatterhand   HC     Druid  49     0.04  2016-06-16  Yes     -      0       1      -
Pijus            Pyrestarter      HC     Druid  36     0.00  2018-05-21  Yes     -      -       1      -
coju             fB               HC     Sorc   29     0.00  2016-04-09  Yes     1      1       1      2
Kitteh           Verallus         HC     Druid  26     0.00  2016-03-25  No      -      -       1      -
logoutzero       Rolex            HC     Barb   21     0.00  2016-03-26  Yes     0      0       1      1
 
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sanguillen

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Summon Resist provides extra resists to Skeletons.
My question is, does and Summon Resist provide any more resists above and beyond what the skill normally lists? Both RS and Revive say:

Receives Bonuses From
Skeleton Mastery
Summon Resist
 
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