The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

[IWandereRI]

The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

hello, I'm sorry if this is a question that is asked often, but I couldn't find any other threads on the matter.
Which weapon is THE zealadin weapon, Grief? Death? BoTD? Any other?
This is from a ubertrist running point of view (any input on how the weapons does on normal bosses is also welcome
Thanks for any input

 

[Painman]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

From an Uber standpoint, it's probably a Last Wish PB.

It has bucketloads of CB. It has Life Tap. It has Might that stacks %ED on top of your Fanat or whatever. It has Fade. It has a [-30] base weap speed. It's indestructible.

It's expensive, but Holy Crap. :crazyeyes:

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

I would have to say Grief. CB/tap/ed can be gotten elsewhere on gear, but the strait +dmg from Grief adds to your smite to make it have huge dmg. CB is great to get the ubers life down quickly, but it won't help you finish them off very fast either.

 

[Zelator]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

I would have to say Grief. CB/tap/ed can be gotten elsewhere on gear, but the strait +dmg from Grief adds to your smite to make it have huge dmg. CB is great to get the ubers life down quickly, but it won't help you finish them off very fast either.

I'll second that.

 

[Valgar]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

Anther point about Grief, as long as life tap is on, and you are smiting the Uber, you cannot die.

You are doing such huge damage (3-5k? I don't know how to calculate it..) and attacking so fast (4.1 attacks per second) that every time you are hit, your health orb is INSTANTLY filled to 100%.

I haven't used Last Wish, but I don't see how it can be any better then Grief, maybe they are equal?

Also if using Last Wish, you will need to pickup additional IAS somewhere on your other gear to hit 6fpa (4.1 apc) You will need 65% to hit this... With a decent grief (+35% IAS) you would have to pickup about 30 (Automatic with Fanta) BUT I, like some others, am a hammerdin smiter so if I used Last Wish I would have a pretty hard time picking up 65% IAS from just other gear. From a hammerdin standpoint, Grief is cheaper and better for Ubers.

 

[Painman]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

Without Fanaticism, Grief wins pretty handily. If you're a zealot with maxed Fanat though, it's just 10% more IAS to max smite speed with a LWPB.

But I forgot about the +xxx damage on Grief stacking onto Smite, and that's the trump card... so I'll have to change my POV to Grief as well I think.

 

[Garisdacar]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

grief is pretty much the winner.

 

[Meenah]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

Uber dia/meph/baal has got 650k health each. Sure, you may like to pound that down with grief.

I've tried myself. Grief is nowhere as fast as LW is vs ubers, be it a smiter or a 1pt hammer. That at least was my experience.

And hey, do you even realize just how awesome the fade is vs mephis conviction aura?

Dracul, Exile, LW. There's just no chance you won't have LT up all the time. Someone said something in the lines of "Well, CB removes a fraction of the health but won't finish it off as good". 1pt smite hammerdins still got max holy shield and usually more +skills than your average smiter. This gives high damage. So does the might aura on LW.

One thing to keep in mind... Say you use lots of +skill gear with resi, such as hoto & maras normally. Hoto will have to be switched naturally, which is a resistance drop. You'll switch mara's for highlords for ias most probably. So... Mephi's poking you down because of conv and high elemental damage? Again... That fade will proc! It doesn't? Go to shenk and let some weakling mobs hit you until you're ready to go. The fade sticks around for some time and in my experience it renews during a "uber session". LW is very defensive in a way, it's like a tank. You'll be protected, much of the work will be carried out by other things than just pure damage. It enables you to switch to more offensive gear, by this i mean ias, to cut faster while LW does the work for you by CB, LT, fade & might. You wield it, but it alone delivers the punch you need.

This is however just my opinion : >

PS. For most other uses, Grief excels. PvP, normal mobs, normal bosses... It's just when your target has a huge health pool LW really really shines.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

Fade can be proc'd from another source too, and it will last long enough to clear Trist. About 50% CB is enough when you are dealing with them, and esp when you are dealing massive dmg from grief. This topic has been discussed time and time again, some people like one, others like the other.

 

[Meenah]

Re: The ultimate Zealadin/ 1p smiter weapon

Yeah it can, I just prefer the blade because it basically does all I want in UT and leaves the rest of my gear free for my own preferences. I suppose that's why LW is popular in the first place