The Strongest Character to laugh in Diablos Face

Variable_Angel

Diabloii.Net Member
The Strongest Character to laugh in Diablos Face

What do you think is the best character to just take damage, to just tank with?

Amazon- Level 84

+15 to all Skills

+10 to Passive and Magic Skills

Max:

Critical Strike

Decoy

Dodge

Valkyrie



Valkyrie

Current Skill Level:45

Life: 5520-6624

Damage: +1100 percent

Attack: +1800

Defense Bonus: +440 percent

Mana Cost: 69

Decoy

Current Skill Level: 45

Life: +450 percent

Duration: 230 seconds

Mana Cost: 1

Dodge

Current Skill Level: 45

63 percent chance



Assasin- Level 40

Weapon Block

Current Skill Level: 45

63 percent chance



Necromancer- Level 99

15 to all

10 to summoning

Max:

Blood Golem

Iron Golem

Fire Golem

Clay Golem

Golem Mastery

1 points in:

Bone Armor

9 points in:

Bone Wall

Equipped Marrowalks:

+33 to Bone Prison



Blood Golem

Current Skill Level: 40

Life: 5733 (H)

Attack: 1460

Defense: 1520

Converts 146 percent damage to life

Damage: 158-427 (H)

Mana Cost: 181

Bone Armor

Current Skill Level: 21

Absorbs 850 damage

Mana Cost: 31

Bone Wall

Current Skill Level: 29

Life: 4913 (H)

Duration: 24 seconds

Mana Cost: 17

Bone Prison (Charges – forgot how many )

Current Skill Level: 53

Life: 6378 (H)

Duration: 24 seconds



Barbarian- Level 95

15 to all

10 to any or all categories

Max:

Battle Orders

Concentrate

Iron Skin

Natural Resistance

Shout

One Point:

Battle Command

Increased Speed

Increased Stamina



Shout

Current Skill Level: 40

Defense: +490 percent

Duration: 515 seconds

Mana Cost: 6

Battle Orders

Current Skill Level: 40

Duration: 525 seconds

Max Stamina: 152 percent

Max Life: 152 percent

Max Mana: 152 percent

Mana Cost: 7

Iron Skin

Current Skill Level: 40

+420 percent

Natural Resistance

Current Skill Level: 40

Resistances: +76 percent

Concentrate

Current Skill Level: 35

Defense Bonus: +440 percent

Attack: +400 percent

Damage: +440 percent

Mana Cost: 2



Example of Defense (if you tape your concentrate attack mouse button down on the baddy)

Start out with 750 Defense

After Shout: 3675

After Iron Skin: 15,435

After Concentrate: 67,914

Hefty if you ask me



Also an example of life gain:

Start out with 400

End up with 608



Paladin- Level 73

15 to all

1 to combat

9 to defensive

Max:

Holy Shield

Defiance

Prayer

Salvation



Defiance

Current Skill Level: 44

Defense Bonus: +460 percent

Prayer

Current Skill Level: 44

Heals: +89

Mana Cost: 9

Salvation (fire, cold, and light)

Current Skill Level: 44

Resist All: +117 percent

Holy Shield

Current Skill Level: 36

Duration: 905 seconds

Defense Bonus: +850 percent

Successful Blocking: +38 percent

Mana Cost: 35



Example of Defense (if you’re using defiance)

Start out with 750 Defense

After Defiance: 3450

After Holy Shield: 29,325

Not up to the Barbarians prime, but with the +38 percent blocking I think it works out fine



Also remember if you don’t use Defiance and go for the +92 life every 2 seconds with holy shield you get:

Base: 750

After Holy Shield: 6,375

While gaining 92 life every two seconds



Sorceress- Level 49

15 to all

5 to light

5 to cold

Max:

Energy Shield

Telekinisis

Shiver Armor



Energy Shield

Current Skill Level: 40

Duration: 2484 seconds

Absorbs 95 percent

Mana Cost: 5

Shiver Armor

Current Skill Level: 40

Duration: 588 seconds

Defense Bonus: 279 percent

Cold Damage: 170-191

Cold Length: 60 seconds

Mana Cost: 11



Example of Defense

Base: 750

Shiver Armor: 2,092.5 (round down I believe)



Druid(Werebear)- Level 49

15 to all

10 to Elemental

Max:

Werebear

Lycanthropy

Oak Sage



Werebear

Current Skill Level: 35

Mana Cost: 15

Life: +240 percent

Duration: 760 seconds

Defense: +195 percent

Oak Sage

Current Skill Level: 35

Life: 627-716

Life: +200 percent

Radius: 65.3 yar

Mana Cost: 49



Example of Life and Defense Gain

Defense: 750

Werebear: 1,462.5



Life: 400

Werebear: 960

Oak Sage: 1,920



Druid (Summoner)-Level 99

15 to all

10 to summoning

Max:

Spirit Wolf

Dire Wolf

Grizzly

Oak Sage

14 in:

Cyclone Armor

Cyclone Armor Synergy



Cyclone Armor (fire, cold, light) Current Skill Level: 29

Absorbs 744 damage

Mana Cost: 33

Summon Grizzly

Current Skill Level: 45

Mana Cost: 40

Life: 6875-9375

Attack: +1150 percent

Defense: +490 percent

Damage: 5683-5853

Damage: +465 percent

Oak Sage

Current Skill Level: 45

Life: 795-908

Life: +250 percent

Radius: 78.6 yards

Mana Cost: 59



Example of Grizzly Life:

Base: 6875 (lowest)

Oak Sage: 17,187.5



Base: 9375

Oak Sage: 23,437.5



Overview:

Amazon Gets her super strong Valk with 5520-6624 life and +440% defense. Her Decoy could possibly have a lot of life, but not that much for the super strong people.



The Assasin has her claws that will block all types of damage (fire, lightning, cold, poison, physical, and magical). However they only peak at 63% chance. Then again you only have to be around level 40ish to be great.



The Necromancer has a very strong Blood Golem which steals life for it and the user. The Blood Golem goes with 5,733 life and 146% life leech. The Necromancer gets to use the marrowalk bug which can help his bone armor (absorbing a nice 850 damage). An added bonus is that he can also keep creating bone walls/bone prisons for more targets on a Lightning Fury Amazon.



The Barbarian obviously has the added advantage of gaining so much life every level. He also boosts his own defense an insanely 1,350% (ex: start with 750 and end with 67,914). Also he gets some more life too (ex- carrying 10 small charms of vita (200) turns into 304 life).



Paladins have a double advantage of being able to regain life at a very hefty speed (92 every 2 sec.) or having extra defense (+460%). If you go the Defense route you can have a grand 1,310%



Sorceress have the ability to convert 95% damage into mana and take only 5% of the damage (C-Razy!). And they only have to be level 49 for it to take place! They also get 279% defense from a shiver armor.



A druid that turns itself into a werebear can easily get enough life to just stand there (from 400 to 1,920!) and also have extra defense (from 750 to 1,462.5). A good choice for a person who wants to level only to 49.



The druid summoner may have a very high level but it comes at a good price. Being able to have a Grizzly with 17,187.5 – 23,437.5 life! And with the 490% extra defense (750 turns into 3,675) the Grizzly could possibly tank all day.


Tell me if i forgot something
 

Eisirt

Diabloii.Net Member
And how will you get lvl 45 skills ?

Also...it seems the calculations are rather hypothetical.

For example...exery enemy I encountered as a druid seemed to be in favour of killing the Oak Sage before anything else... g'bye life bonus...
 

Phresh

Diabloii.Net Member
barb is oviously the biggest tank in the game...with max bo and max iron skin/shout and max dr/resists and 75% block no one will touch you
 

Denzik

Diabloii.Net Member
It's true, i'd have to say the barb is built to naturally be a tank. However, The title suggests, which character will Laugh in Diablo's face. A barb will do that. Only after he gets to diablo... Iron Maiden is a nightmare to any melee damaging character. I'd have to say that the Amazon with her Valkrie would be the Best Tank... Oh and it's Recast-able. I think a Javazon would be best suited for her ability to go ranged, and to attack up close especially with Charged Strike.
 

Superhal

Diabloii.Net Member
a very easy trick to diablo is to kill balrog pack (east side) last. then, revive 1-2 of them. diablo will focus on them, but they are nearly invulnerable to his attacks. if the fight goes on a long time, just revive a few more.

i've done this with a summoner and didn't lose a single summon.
 

Tao

Diabloii.Net Member
Sorceress laughs the most. Why to resist damage, if you just damage him and kill him first with Static Field? :lol:

Now seriously, on the defense side the Barbarian can hardly be beat. However with the new runewords and items giving BO to other classes, plus big absorbs, any class would tank Diablo if built around that purpose.
 

bara

Diabloii.Net Member
I don't think any of the builds you mentioned will have any problem tanking anything.
 

RTB

Diabloii.Net Member
Variable_Angel said:
Example of Defense (if you tape your concentrate attack mouse button down on the baddy)

Start out with 750 Defense

After Shout: 3675

After Iron Skin: 15,435

After Concentrate: 67,914

Hefty if you ask me
You kinda overdid that there. Shout, Iron Skin and Concentrate stack, they don't multiply each other.

Phresh: FE ancients still can. One hit kills all the time.
 

sangfagel

Diabloii.Net Member
These builds are extreme... EXTREMALY:
1.expensive
2.boring
3.useless

Lets look at the amazon: +15 to all skills and +10 to passives. She is not an amazon any longer, she is... Valkyria´s mother - that´s all she is. What gear she is supposed to have to get this amount of + skills and some resists as well?

Amu - Maras - ok 30% resist all - otherwise it is not that great choice for a zon...
Helm - none of "+2 all skills" helms has greate resists...
Armour - Arkaine´s - 0 resists. Enigma - 0 resists... ok -CoH - 65% resists
rings - SoJ or BK rings - 0 resists
shield - Sigon or Lidless - 0 reists
Weapon - in this case we have no choice - it must be Titan´s - 0 resists
belt - must be Arachnid (another great choice for a zon - indeed!)
boots???? - some resists there - may be
gloves - prolly rares or crafts with +2 ...- some resists there - may be
Inventory - full of +skill charms

OK - we have a "zon" who can survive. Her gear costs a fortune and her Valkyrie can kill Diablo alone. Under this time you can read some funny stories and lough... :yawn:
 

Eisirt

Diabloii.Net Member
sangfagel said:
These builds are extreme... EXTREMALY:
1.expensive
2.boring
3.useless

Lets look at the amazon: +15 to all skills and +10 to passives. She is not an amazon any longer, she is... Valkyria´s mother - that´s all she is. What gear she is supposed to have to get this amount of + skills and some resists as well?

Amu - Maras - ok 30% resist all - otherwise it is not that great choice for a zon...
Helm - none of "+2 all skills" helms has greate resists...
Armour - Arkaine´s - 0 resists. Enigma - 0 resists... ok -CoH - 65% resists
rings - SoJ or BK rings - 0 resists
shield - Sigon or Lidless - 0 reists
Weapon - in this case we have no choice - it must be Titan´s - 0 resists
belt - must be Arachnid (another great choice for a zon - indeed!)
boots???? - some resists there - may be
gloves - prolly rares or crafts with +2 ...- some resists there - may be
Inventory - full of +skill charms

OK - we have a "zon" who can survive. Her gear costs a fortune and her Valkyrie can kill Diablo alone. Under this time you can read some funny stories and lough... :yawn:
I'll go and take a nap....
 

Variable_Angel

Diabloii.Net Member
i'm basically just a guy who has tried EVERYTHING in diablo, and have kinda gotten bored with it so i'm just wondering which character i should make (since i have two computers) to bait with and use the other puter to use my suped up sorc and obviously have two mercs with them so it's kinda fun. . .

I honestly thought the paladin would've done nicely because of the +92 life every two seconds

oh, and thanks for the info on the shout, concentrate, and iron skin. But exactly how does it work? that'd really help me out, thanks

if you wanna vote for who would be the strongest char to be baiting with (not just diablo, basically baiting anyone/thing)

go to the thread that says "real poll: strongest baiter" or something like that (i messed up this thread)
 

RTB

Diabloii.Net Member
Variable_Angel said:
I honestly thought the paladin would've done nicely because of the +92 life every two seconds
46 life per second isn't enough to offset dmg from NM and Hell creatures. He'll become a walking aura, having to stay out of harm's way.

oh, and thanks for the info on the shout, concentrate, and iron skin. But exactly how does it work? that'd really help me out, thanks
It's simple, you add all the percentages of Shout, Concentrate and Iron Skin up and multiply that amount +1 with the base defense (including items). So:
100 defense
120% shout
100% Iron Skin
180% Concentrate

100 * (1 + 1.2 (shout) + 1.0 (Iron Skin) + 1.8 (Conc))
= 100 * (1 + 4)
= 100 * 5
= 500

That should be right...
 

Anidem

Banned
With a valk that high the only thing that should kill it is the IM casters in the chaos Sanc, or maby verry high poison. Hell Andy if you engage then go take a dump.
 

The_Farseer

Diabloii.Net Member
RTB said:
You kinda overdid that there. Shout, Iron Skin and Concentrate stack, they don't multiply each other.

Phresh: FE ancients still can. One hit kills all the time.
Umm just to let u know... they fixed the ancients FE bug... nothing to be scared of
 

RTB

Diabloii.Net Member
The_Farseer said:
Umm just to let u know... they fixed the ancients FE bug... nothing to be scared of
FYI they fixed the FE bug on bnet, and thus also the FE ancients bug.

It hasn't been fixed in SP :grrr:
 
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