The No Vitality Tournament

Neksja

Diabloii.Net Member
ok, quick question: Is Act3 quest1 reward banned? I just got the health potion, but didn't use it, because it adds permanently life. So, is it banned or not?

Neksja
 

waflob

Diabloii.Net Member
ok, quick question: Is Act3 quest1 reward banned? I just got the health potion, but didn't use it, because it adds permanently life. So, is it banned or not?
I hope not. This type of tournament makes this all the more useful.

DelBoy



 

midnightvulture

Diabloii.Net Member
I'm not sure that I understand the rules properly, so I want to ask about them before I start playing. When 'ATMA can be used as an extended stash' does that mean you can start a new stash file just for this one character/tournament and hold stuff there until it is of use? Or is that prohibited by the 'no muling on' rule? I noticed that people are holding on to all of their gems, so it seems like we're stuck with just our town stash....

mv
 

charlengu

Banned
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Kurast Docks	    26
waflob          LowLife         Summ DR/??      Canyon of the Magi  25
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Halls of Dead L2    22
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rocky Waste         19
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Outer Cloister      16
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Dark Wood           11
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Cold Plains          6       
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Cold Plains          6
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1	
zenithsmith     canttouchthis   trap/kicker     Rogue Encampment     1	
Mursilis	Bob		Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
GCobbz		Throbula	Random-Azon	Rogue Encampment     1

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Made some minor progress. No finds at all really. A couple chipped gems is all. Shopped a +3 RS, +1 DV +7 energy wand from Akara. Having under 80 life isn't too bad (so far). Hopefully I can cube a decent weapon for the merc.
 

GoHabsGo

Diabloii.Net Member
Hey Nice tournament, seem really popular already. I'd really like to join but with Hellgate being released wednesday ... I don't think it's worth it.
 

Deitti

Diabloii.Net Member
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Kurast Docks	    26
waflob          LowLife         Summ DR/??      Canyon of the Magi  25
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Halls of Dead L2    22
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rocky Waste         19
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Halls of Dead L2    18
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Outer Cloister      16
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Cold Plains          6       
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Cold Plains          6
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1	
zenithsmith     canttouchthis   trap/kicker     Rogue Encampment     1	
Mursilis	Bob		Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
GCobbz		Throbula	Random-Azon	Rogue Encampment     1

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well Emilie went ahead today aswell, all the way to halls of the dead lvl 2. i did get the cube but didn't go open anymore waypoints. Emilie almost got deeds today, when a cold enchanted tainted exploded on me, leaving me with around 5-10 HP. i think the Black Marsh + Jail section was very dangerous to me, lotsa monsters that took nice chunks of my life away. Andariel wasn't that dangerous anymore, just had to avoid her and let my traps do their work.

Speaking of traps, charged bolt sentries are insanely awesome. i wipe whole bunch of monsters quickly with them. and now that i got lvl 18 and shadow warrior, im gonna have much easier time, just laying traps and letting warrior tank. i didn't have more than players 4 today, was too lazy to wait the kill on players 8 monsters.

Emilie lvl 18 on Halls of the Dead level 2 waypoint. 101 life.
 

jozipper

Diabloii.Net Member
While on his way to visit Blood Raven, Lumpy decided to explore The Cave. His choice was almost immediately rewarded. Upon entering The Cave he was assaulted by a ghoulish troupe of zombies, lead by none other than Star Tongue. After the slaughter this was discovered:

Pelta Lunata Buckler
Defense: 39 (Base Defense: 4-6)
Required Level: 2
Required Strength: 12
Durability: 20-24 (varies)
Chance to Block: Pal: 50%, Ama/Asn/Bar/: 45%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 40%
Paladin Smite Damage: 1 To 3
+30-40% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+30 Defense
20% Increased Chance Of Blocking
40% Faster Block Rate
+10 To Energy
+10 To Vitality
+2 To Strength
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)
Not a bad little shield, Im sure it will carry me for awhile.

Blood Raven also meet her demise in a timely fashion. While she is well known for her speed and agility, she quickly found out that she was not faster than a pack of wolves.

Long live Lumpy and long live his wolf pack!


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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Kurast Docks	    26
waflob          LowLife         Summ DR/??      Canyon of the Magi  25
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Halls of Dead L2    22
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rocky Waste         19
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Halls of Dead L2    18
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Outer Cloister      16
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Stony Field         12 
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Cold Plains          6
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1	
zenithsmith     canttouchthis   trap/kicker     Rogue Encampment     1	
Mursilis	Bob		Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
GCobbz		Throbula	Random-Azon	Rogue Encampment     1

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winmar

Diabloii.Net Member
I have a few questions about +life items and skills that increase the total amount of life.

Im planning a Wind/Summon druid. Im planning to have one point in werebear and a few points in Oak Sage. Will their +% Life only affect my base vitality, or will they be applied after +life items? (like PRubys).

If i cast hurricane and cyclone armor and then switch too werebear, will i still have those spells activated?
 

Low Key

Diabloii.Net Member
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Kurast Docks	    26
waflob          LowLife         Summ DR/??      Canyon of the Magi  25
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Halls of Dead L2    22
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rocky Waste         19
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Halls of Dead L2    18
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Outer Cloister      16
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Stony Field         12 
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Cold Plains          6
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1	
zenithsmith     canttouchthis   trap/kicker     Rogue Encampment     1	
Mursilis	Bob		Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
GCobbz		Throbula	Random-Azon	Rogue Encampment     1
LowKey          Shatterfrost    Holy Freeze     Rogue Encampment     1

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Couldnt resist this pontetially very short tourney. Shatterfrost, the Holy Freeze paladin will hope that high blocking, resists and a sub-zero field of doom(tm) will keep him alive at least to Nightmare.
 

OldSoldier

Diabloii.Net Member
Will their +% Life only affect my base vitality, or will they be applied after +life items? (like PRubys).

If i cast hurricane and cyclone armor and then switch too werebear, will i still have those spells activated?
The multiplier is added to everything, IIRC. I know when a barbarian belts out a battle order, his charms and equipment +life are multiplied as well. I can't see why another skill wouldn't do the same, even a passive one. I'd recommend trying it out with your first chipped ruby just to make sure that the math adds up.

Your active spells should continue in wereform. You'll have to be in human form to cast them though, so especially for hurricane it might get a bit annoying until you get a longer duration.



 

Insane Wayne

Diabloii.Net Member
winmar said:
I have a few questions about +life items and skills that increase the total amount of life.

Im planning a Wind/Summon druid. Im planning to have one point in werebear and a few points in Oak Sage. Will their +% Life only affect my base vitality, or will they be applied after +life items? (like PRubys).
Oak Sage will boost your base vitality and items/charms with +life, including rubies.
It will NOT boost items with +Vitality (e.g. Io runes) nor items with scaling +life/character level.

midnightvulture said:
When 'ATMA can be used as an extended stash' does that mean you can start a new stash file just for this one character/tournament and hold stuff there until it is of use?
Yes, in tournaments, that is what "extended stash" means.
 

barren

Diabloii.Net Member
Still no deaths? Quite frankly, i'm amazed! I plan on entering but I'm not sure what kind of character I'd like to use. I thought of making a berzerker barb but I can't even get my base vit frenzy barb out of nightmare on softcore mode twinked to the teeth. I'll be back once I hit the ol' drawing board!
 

ilshad

Diabloii.Net Member
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Kurast Docks	    26
waflob          LowLife         Summ DR/??      Canyon of the Magi  25
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Halls of Dead L2    22
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rocky Waste         19
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Halls of Dead L2    18
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Outer Cloister      17
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Outer Cloister      16
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Stony Field         12 
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Cold Plains          6
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1	
zenithsmith     canttouchthis   trap/kicker     Rogue Encampment     1	
Mursilis	Bob		Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
GCobbz		Throbula	Random-Azon	Rogue Encampment     1
LowKey          Shatterfrost    Holy Freeze     Rogue Encampment     1

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Minor update for me. Made it up to the Outer Cloister wp without a hitch. Notable finds so far include Arctic Furs and a nice set of hotspur boots, which will come in handy if I should make it to big D.

Small nit-pick question: how are we ranking the table? By progress or lvl?

Vita-None, MA zon, lvl 17, 90 max life, Barracks next
 

Morathi

Diabloii.Net Member
Small nit-pick question: how are we ranking the table? By progress or lvl?
i think the trend seems to be by level so i think it should be left to that :p.

About my own progress i will update after i finish act 1 i am at the outer cloister and have found the best possible item at this stage of the game. I will let you no what it is when i update after act 1.
 

sveinbjorn

Diabloii.Net Member
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Arcane Sanctuary    24
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Lut Gholein         20
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Lut Gholein         19
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Dark Wood           11
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Cold Plains          6       
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Rogue Encampment     1
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Rogue Encampment     1
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
waflob          LowLife         Summoner/??     Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1
Andy went down really easy... I've had fair luck finding magic items so far. (Morty is bristling with topaz). Found a buttload of rings and ammys, nothing really special, and 3 green items, a berserkers hauberk, Cleglaw's Claw and Cleglaws pincers. Quite unusual to find two items of the same set in the same act... Too bad they really don't work for a Fishymancer. I did find a really nice voodoo head...+2 CE, +2 DV, +2 AD. Really comes in handy!

Onward!

Svein
 

Butzull

Diabloii.Net Member
i think the trend seems to be by level so i think it should be left to that :p.

About my own progress i will update after i finish act 1 i am at the outer cloister and have found the best possible item at this stage of the game. I will let you no what it is when i update after act 1.
Ooh...ooh. I like this game!

I'm guessing Bloodfist. If I remember right they have +40 life, which on a set of gloves would be nice in the early going. :)

Regarding the table though, I thought the tournament rules stated the winner is the one who got furthest, so I think it should be by WP, but meh...not overly fussed for now. :wink2:

Butz. :dunce:

P.S. Another interesting facet of this tournament is that stamina is a bit more important than usual. If you need to run a lot that is. For me...go-go teleport with loads of mana! ;)



 

wakiki

Diabloii.Net Member
ok, quick question: Is Act3 quest1 reward banned? I just got the health potion, but didn't use it, because it adds permanently life. So, is it banned or not?

Neksja
It's fine. You can get life any way you want other than putting points into vitality. I want the rules to be simple.

I'm not sure that I understand the rules properly, so I want to ask about them before I start playing. When 'ATMA can be used as an extended stash' does that mean you can start a new stash file just for this one character/tournament and hold stuff there until it is of use? Or is that prohibited by the 'no muling on' rule? I noticed that people are holding on to all of their gems, so it seems like we're stuck with just our town stash....

mv
No, what I mean is that you can keep all the items found with that character in a stash in Atma for later use, you just can't twink items found by other characters. I've saved every ring and gem I've found so far.:smiley:

Small nit-pick question: how are we ranking the table? By progress or lvl?
Please rank your characters by location. Level is only used as a tiebreaker. If you see characters mis-ranked on the table, you may fix them if you wish.

Also, just to clarify in advance: the Halls of Pain waypoint is irrelevant to the rankings. For the purposes of the table, it doesn't exist. You may do the Nihl quest if you wish, however.



 

ElMiko

Diabloii.Net Member
Also, just to clarify in advance: the Halls of Pain waypoint is irrelevant to the rankings. For the purposes of the table, it doesn't exist. You may do the Nihl quest if you wish, however.
Oh man... i was kinda hoping that one would be required! That would've really thrown a wrench into a no-vit build. It's terrifying enough as an HC character, let alone as a no-vit character!!



 

mordeth

Diabloii.Net Member
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Forum Name	Character	Class		Waypoint	    Level
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Neksja		Bitey		Furydruid	Arcane Sanctuary    24
Sveinbjorn      Morty           Fishymancer     Lut Gholein         20
Butzull         ForceField      E/S Sorc        Lut Gholein         19
wakiki		Destroyer	Holy Freeze     Outer Cloister      17
Gambitsreturn   Xena            Furysin         Black Marsh         15
Deitti          Emilie          TrapSin         Dark Wood           11
Ilshad          Vita-None       MA Zon          Cold Plains          9
Theophestrys    Autolycus       B-Druid         Cold Plains          9
Gahzban         Lori            LFTankazon      Cold Plains          7
Mordeth         Golden Globe    E/S Sorc        Cold Plains          7
Morathi         Cindy           Valkazon        Cold Plains          6
Huriel          Glassy          Conc Barb       Cold Plains          6
Jozipper        Lumpy           Summ Druid      Cold Plains          6       
TheReadMenace   LifelessMenace  Fire Ranger     Rogue Encampment     1
charlengu	Osteichthyes	Fishymancer	Rogue Encampment     1
martinkingss    Stargus         Firedruid       Rogue Encampment     1
Skunkbelly      Wimpy-Skunk     Barb            Rogue Encampment     1
ElMiko		Dr_Doolittle	Summoner	Rogue Encampment     1
Midnightvulture Mr_Leech        Fanatic Zealot  Rogue Encampment     1
benjwils        Reginald        Summon/Bone     Rogue Encampment     1
crazy_bear      Shadow          BF/DS           Rogue Encampment     1
waflob          LowLife         Summoner/??     Rogue Encampment     1
EJB		EarlyDeath	Bear/summon	Rogue Encampment     1	
Cius		ShatterProof	E/S Sorc   	Rogue Encampment     1
I got GG as far as the Outer Cloister WP at lvl 17, when I returned to town. So I says to myself, "Self, time to spend some of those hard earned stat points. Let's see, 2 to STR, 3 to Vi.. oops, NO, I mean ENG!" Gaah, start again. Luckily I hadn't gone too far or I would've been really peeved. Initial thoughts were that she wasn't too bad, though some archer packs really tore me up. Maybe I'll have better luck finding topazes with this gal.
 
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