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The myth behind ed/max jewel

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  1. Brave_turtle

    Brave_turtle IncGamers Member

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    The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Hi,

    I heard some people say ed/max jewel does not work.

    Is it true?

    I want to socket my stormlash with the highest output dmg possible but some people been telling me 40ED/15max wouldn't work.

    Should I go:

    a) 40ed/15 max
    b) 40ed/9str
    c) 30 max

    Please help.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Its not a problem as long as you use ed/max dmg jewels in a weapon.
    They are only bugged in non-weapon sockets.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    You'd be better off with an impossible to find 30ed/10min/18max jewel.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Thank you very much guys!

    Krajee that jewel is indeed very sexy but I will probably never find it in my life.

    Which one of the jewel above will give me the highest dmg output?
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    it will work only in weapons, helm or armor .. will be bugged.

    want max damage output? just use grief pb
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    what does bugged mean? it doesn't work or its not as much as shown? can you explain?
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    There are threads explaining it in Statistics, as this isn't a Barbarian-only issue. Just do a search there or in the 1.11 Bugs and Suggestions technical section.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    From the Diabloii.net strategy compendium:

    +X% Enhanced Damage jewels in weapons enhances the weapon damage directly.
    But if you place the jewels in armor/shield/helm, the bonus will be added along with stats-bonus and skills.

    If a jewel adds both ed% and min dmg, the ed% will only affect the max dmg.
    If a jewel has both ed% and max dmg, the ed% only affects the min dmg.

    This is why when you go to socket your arreats, its best to use,

    40%ED/+15%IAS or
    40%ED/-15%REQ or
    40%ED/+9STR or
    40%ED/+20LIFE or
    BER RUNE
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Thanks guys but what is teh choice above that will give me the most dmg?
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Also, note that you can add %ED jewels first, and then Min/Max jewels and things will be fine. However, if you add Min/Max jewels first, and then %ED jewels, then the %ED will be bugged.

    What's your build? How much skill-%ED does it have?

    The answer is either 30 Max or 40/9. Just depends on your weapon/gear at the moment.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Hi,

    I'm a frenzier. My setup is nothing special.

    My setup:

    Helm: arreat
    Armor: Enigma
    Weapon: 2 x stormlash
    Amulet: Highlord
    belt: dungo
    ring: dual leech/raven
    Boots: Gore
    glove: Dracul

    I really want the max dmg input I can get from jewel.



     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    [edit] Oops, you're socketing your Stormlash, not your Arreat's. Didn't read that. 40/15 wins. Ignore my previous questions. If it's your Arreat's, then a 30 Max would prolly be better.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    How would a 30max win if a plain 40ed jewel will add 32max to a stormlash? At least in the first post it says he wants to socket his stormlash.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Yes, I do want to socket my stormlash.

    I initially tought the bug with ed/max was on weapon also, that why I was hesitant. Now that I know it's not on weapon, I'm trying to figure out what will give me the biggest dmg output.



     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    40/15 max adds 65 avg dmg to the weapon.
    40/10 min adds 63 avg dmg to the weapon
    OHM rune adds 62 avg dmg to the weapon.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Nice, what about 30 max?

    Mind to explain how you get the result?



     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Scourge 3 to 80 (41.5 Avg) Thats the base stats.
    41.5*1.4 = 58 thats how much 40ed adds.
    15max dmg is 7.5 avg. 58+7.5=65.5

    Do the same thing with 40/10min(40/5avg) and OHM.
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    hmmm, so 30 max jewel will result in:

    41.5 + 15 = 56.5 ?

    The 40ed/15 max is really the one who's outputting the most dmg.

    Thanks all!
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    dont forget the 30ed/10min/18max
     
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    Re: The myth behind ed/max jewel

    Summerfun, your math is wrong. You should be multiplying by .4 (or .5, in the case of the ohm rune) instead of 1.4 (or 1.5).
     

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