# The Math of Vengeance Question

#### GargonCerlan

##### Diabloii.Net Member
The Math of Vengeance Question

The description on the combat skill tab screen for vengeance indicates that it raises fire/lightning/cold dmg by x%.... Taking into consideration outside sources of elemental damage, how would this fit into the equation? (I.E. elemental dmg charms, enchant charges, aura on equip, etc.) Obivously it would also include the base dmg from the physical aspect of the weapon as well... unless this skill works similarly to the Barbarian's Berserk skill in which ALL dmg is converted to elemental damage... (which is unlikely due to the fact that theoretically a EBOTD zerker with max vengeance only would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-16k dmg which I have not heard of on a paladin. Maybe I'm wrong. Please help if you know by posting the equation.

#### vdzele

##### Diabloii.Net Member
For some reasons people donâ€™t read guilds or sticky threads. Here is an example how you can calculate vengeance using Grief RW. This is a special calc because Grief has a special modifier +X damage. Just insert your weapon damage in the equation and at the end simply add all elemental damages to the final damage. LCS in the following link means lying character screen. Lying because in some cases what you see on your character screen is not the real damage delivered in the game, so we need to find whats the truth. And mighty RTB :strong: is always there to find it. Please upload your avatar picture once again (its messy)

#### Chimaira

##### Diabloii.Net Member
The enhanced damage % from Vengeance works of your weapons physical damage. Elemental charms will add to that, but will not be enhanced by Vengeance. Also Vengeance does not work like Berserk, it will not convert all your damage to elemental. So you will have a small physical damage portion and a larger elemental one. The damage bonus from Fanatiscism will also work of your weapon damage but will not be converted into elemental damage.

Weapon damage * (Vengeance ED + strength bonus + Aura bonus) + elemental charms

#### RTB

##### Diabloii.Net Member
+dmg on equipment/charms also adds to Vengeance elemental dmg (and of course physical). The "Damage +x" found on Grief doesn't work with Vengeance, as that mod is a bit buggy.

#### Weltkriegpally

##### Diabloii.Net Member
RTB said:
+dmg on equipment/charms also adds to Vengeance elemental dmg (and of course physical). The "Damage +x" found on Grief doesn't work with Vengeance, as that mod is a bit buggy.

Its too bad it doesn't, as grief phase would make a killer vengeance weapon. on the flipside, that kind of damage on vengeance...oy. that would hurt.

--welt