The Limit of the Human Mind

guanzo

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

Actually its not impossible to draw an alien.
In the universe there are trillion upon trillions of solar systems, each with varying numbers of planets, stars, moons, etc. Whats to say that in out of all that, there can't be a planet like earth? "aliens" there would grow from similar conditions, eventually evolve to adapt to the earth-like environment, and maybe even someday produce humans.
Of course, it depends on the course of evolution whether or not humans could possibly appear. If a meteor or w/e had not killed the dinosaurs, humans would never have appeared.

We define organisms as being able to reproduce, use energy, etc. and search the universe for those types of things because we know for a FACT that life as we know it can exist with those specifications. Thus, it makes it a hundred times easier to look for earth-like organisms and confirm alien existence then try to figure out if gravity is sentient or not.

Its creative to suggest that black holes and gravity could be forms of life, because no one can prove or disprove it. Physics call them laws of nature, but they're only theories right? Even if the laws occur over and over again in the same way, there is no way to prove them as universally true, so we call them theories. Yes, we take these theories to be true, but wouldn't it be cool if black holes were actually giant monsters? Why not?

As for even the existence of aliens, whoever says aliens cannot exist are being terribly ignorant. As i said before, there are an unimaginable amount of planets out there. If you looked at a portion of a sky with a telescope, you would see one or two stars, but there would be literally millions of planets invisible to you, but still existing in that patch of sky.
Even though its not 100%, i'm willing to believe that out of all those planets, there is at least some form of "life" that exists, be it a single bacteria or huge flying dragons.
 

trashX

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

I may be wrong... but I don't think he wants us to draw an alien as we imagine one. Simply drawing an alien already defines it as something we have on earth. Of course if we encounter another "alien" species it is, well, alien. BUT it is, if we percieve it as life, an altered form of life that possibly could appear on earth. The alien Hegemon is trying to describe is a different life form. What if a radiowave is a lifeform? Not that we could imagine it, but that's the whole point he's trying to make.

Tell me if I'm wrong HegemonKhan:wave:
 

HegemonKhan

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

trashx, is the alien!!!! he has telepathic abilities!!! he read my mind!!!

(joking in a complimentary way, trashx)

u explained what i ment to mean perfectly !!!!
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and for what it's worth, here's a theory for u guys to think about:

it's a very ligitimate theory that life on earth is not terristrial (of earth).

there's a very strong possibility that life did not come to be created on the earth but rather "immigrated" to earth from another planet or asteroid.

maybe it's even possible that life was originally on mars, and than some life (bacteria or other micro-organisms) came to the lifeless barren earth from chunks of mars that broke off and than started colonizing earth into the green and life filled planet as we know it today.

we earthlings may actually be the descendants of martians.
 

Johnny

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

trashx, is the alien!!!! he has telepathic abilities!!! he read my mind!!!

(joking in a complimentary way, trashx)

u explained what i ment to mean perfectly !!!!
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and for what it's worth, here's a theory for u guys to think about:

it's a very ligitimate theory that life on earth is not terristrial (of earth).

there's a very strong possibility that life did not come to be created on the earth but rather "immigrated" to earth from another planet or asteroid.

maybe it's even possible that life was originally on mars, and than some life (bacteria or other micro-organisms) came to the lifeless barren earth from chunks of mars that broke off and than started colonizing earth into the green and life filled planet as we know it today.

we earthlings may actually be the descendants of martians.
So Martians colonized the earth with humans, every single animal that we have on this planet and then added a flora that worked perfectly together with the animals? Why not just cut out the middle man and say that god did it.



 
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Dondrei

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

Isn't he saying the life was originally just micro-organisms?
 

HegemonKhan

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

well, bacteria micro-organisms are more fit to survive than any other life form. statistical/probability wise we won't find human-like aliens first but rather some bacteria, virus, or other micro-organism (he wasn't the first to think about it. but i'm gonna credit late micheal crighton, he died a while back, and his adromeda strain book, since i am a reader and loved his books).

and my point was that, that micro-organism/virus/bacteria would be possibly FROM MARS which "immigrated" to earth and made it into the green and life-filled planet that we know right now.
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genetic engineering really scares me...seen too many sci-fi or zombie movies...resident evil.....(movies. 1 and 2 are awesome. 3 was awful. i never played the video games..cries)

but it be really really cool if they could splice the "gene" that allows bacteria to survive in lava in humans/human skin ....

it be soooo coool to be able to jump into a volcano lava pool and be able to swim around in it without melting...or to simply be able to walk and stand in a blazing fire inferno :D (don't get techincal on me...its jsut an example...i'm well aware of the other complications.....like the poisonous sulfuric gases....)

the above is jsut one genetic engineering fantasy i have had :D
 

Johnny

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

Wasn't the bacteria found in hardened lava rock? I find it very hard to believe that any carbon based life form could survive in molten lava.
 

Arkardo

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Re: The Limit of the Human Mind

and my point was that, that micro-organism/virus/bacteria would be possibly FROM MARS which "immigrated" to earth and made it into the green and life-filled planet that we know right now.
I understand the possibility that there once was, or even IS life on Mars. I also understand the possibility that life on earth originated from outer space via asteroids.

But the chance that BOTH are true AND that some big piece of rock somehow flew away from Mars and happened to land on Earth, with enough surviving micro-organisms landing in a suitable area to continue to survive sounds a bit unbelievable.

but it be really really cool if they could splice the "gene" that allows bacteria to survive in lava in humans/human skin ....

it be soooo coool to be able to jump into a volcano lava pool and be able to swim around in it without melting...or to simply be able to walk and stand in a blazing fire inferno :D (don't get techincal on me...its jsut an example...i'm well aware of the other complications.....like the poisonous sulfuric gases....)

the above is jsut one genetic engineering fantasy i have had :D
Weren't scientist not already amazed by bacteria that survived in water as hot as 60 degrees not so many years ago?

Anyway, not to ruin your fantasy, but you'd have to modify your DNA in such a way that each and every protein, fiber, etc. would be enough heat resistant. Not nearly as hard in a micro-organisms, but in evolved, larger, more complicate, specialized (read: environmetally dependant) organisms as we humans it would be simply near or just plain impossible to pull off :wave:



 
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