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the hunt for Tal's Adjudication

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by phatbrava, Jun 7, 2005.

  1. phatbrava

    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    the hunt for Tal's Adjudication

    Well here goes nothing.
    as i've recently found Tal's Guardianship but i still miss the amulet, i've decided to go hunting: Hell Andy, beware of Skinned the fishymancer!
    I've checked her drops and she can drop runes up to Lo (though the chances are very very slim), which is not bad at all and she can also drop some of the exceptional and elite uniques i still dont own.
    So here starts Skinned's quest for the never-saw-it-drop green amulet.
    I'll post my progress in this thread.

    Wish me luck!

    p.s.: any advice of any sort gladly welcome.
     
  2. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    You might also want to consider pindle. The odds on P1 400MF hell are:
    1 : 11391 Andariel ~ 1st kill - [H]
    1 : 75072 Pindleskin - [H]
    So if you can run pindle more 7 times as fast as andy, then in the long run he'll give you better odds, and can drop alot more goodies than andy can. A fishy can run pindle reletively quick. Just have to get your skeles all up and ready before the corpses in his garden wake up, then i find to guide your skeles into the right action, run past pindle, so down the stairs, tehn straight back up. that way they will all focus on killing pindles mob, not the other corpses that will wonder through to meet you, and if your in trouble, you have the stairs right behind you. This way i can do pindle pn P1 in less than 50 seconds from loading to saving with my lvl 89 fishy.
     
  3. phatbrava

    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    thanx for the tips
    but i actually have no idea where did you get those numbers from
    check this
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    and according to my math, pindle's chances (1:37536) are 9.488 smaller than Andy's chances (3956) (im not considering first kills)
    i know pindle goes down really fast (im using a Naj's staff) and i can kill him quite fast without skellies...CE is the king!, but Andy doesnt take 9 times longer to kill.

    maybe ill do dual runs: Andy and Pindle
     
  4. steelsixtyIV

    steelsixtyIV IncGamers Member

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    Well I found two in about month of running Hell Andy. Never found what I was looking for though, a SoJ. I guess if you need something really bad you never get it.
     
  5. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    Well in your example youve shown is not andy first kill, which because of the bug you always get, not a normal drop.
    And wheres what im seeing.
    Andy and Pindle
     
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    KrAzY3 IncGamers Member

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    If you need something really bad, get inventive.

    I have 3 SoJs now. I made a classic character almost specifically to get SoJs. Once you have the first two unique rings you are guaranteed to get a SoJ the next time a unique ring drops. Sure, its a lot of work but you can gamble uniques as well. I gambled rings the whole time and then when I got my first SoJ I muled that off and actually had my second SoJ drop. Then ironically enough shortly after that I was playing beta 1.10 so that I could get a +2 skill BK ring and I have a gold ring drop. Its a SoJ hah... I did manage to get my BK ring to (sheer luck I suppose, killed Mephisto over and over and over).

    Tals Adjudication ... never had it drop for me. Until I made a 1.07 character. With enough MF you can get unique monsters on hell (sounds easier than it is)to drop set items almost all the time. It still took me a while but I got one, now two I believe, that way.

    I don't trade or take giveaways, only stuff I find so... I know how I got my stuff was cheap, but I got them :)
     
  7. phatbrava

    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    oh, so there's a bug...
    even so...on first kill andy has (according to the atma version i have, it seems that mine and yours give us different results) 1:1899 chances to drop it
     
  8. Sledge

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    actually i think NM andy might be the best place to run
    easier than Hell andy
    plus you get a better chance at a soj
     
  9. phatbrava

    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    i wouldnt ruin my perfect hell meph map not for 10 tal's ammies :)
     
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    SeDnA IncGamers Member

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    Why are the odds different? I don't get it...
     
  11. damaris

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    i did dual runs on andy and meph, after a while my head got dizzy and quickly disliked it as a non-effective way to do MF, but thats just maybe i'm getting too old to do dual runs... :lol: anyway, u can try that on andy and pindle and tell us the progression.

    as for getting the SoJ... http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=558
     
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    Randall IncGamers Member

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    I have the same as pratbrava:

    1:1899 for Andariel Hell 1st kill
    1:37536 for pindle Hell

    I installed ATMA 5.04e (allthough it says 5.04 in the info screen)

    Randall
     
  13. Sledge

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    run the same meph map for a week and you'll soon want to change it :D
    good hell meph maps are reasonably easy to come by
     
  14. phatbrava

    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    i've been doing eldritch-meph-pindle runs for the last 3 weeks i guess
    not bored yet
    especially when i see green sacreds or laquered drop :D
     
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    unless you are going to trade them... how many do you need?
     
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    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    trade what? :)
    i dont trade, dont accept giveaways
    maybe i was missunderstood
    i was just happy for my 3 weeks mf runs, netting me 2 IK armors and one Tal's
     
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    I've had 4 of them drop. Got 2 during questing in A2NM and one just other day from hell Meph...can't remember where the 4th was from. Doesn't that prove that random luck outdoes those drop calcs(as correct as they are). :)
    I got both my Tal Armours during questing as well.

    Moar
     
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    phatbrava IncGamers Member

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    im pretty sure its luck
    but i gotta be driven by something! :)
    that's atma's drop calc and the fun of killing someone esle :)
    so on to Andy i go!
     
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    i know you don't trade :p
    if the maps not dropping what you want... change it :)
     
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    Tell this to someone (like me) who had never a good map as you guys.

    I heard you should be able to get a good map with some reroll, tell you what, once I wanted to find an map as everyone else does in few reroll. Guess what, 2 hours of time waste, countless map change, it only got worse. Meph just hates me. I love baal/WSK runs.
     

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