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The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

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  1. droid

    droid IncGamers Member

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    The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    As next ladder season gets older and older, many players will start looking to build characters specialized for one specific task...boss MFing, area MFing, keyrunning, GF, Ubers, etc. This is one such build.

    What this build is
    The Grillmistress is a pure fire sorc that's extremely affordable by the time you're looking to build such a specialist character. She performs her task exceedingly well. That task is cowing in full games, such as the ubiquitous Chaos-Baal runs, that afford you a good 5-10 minutes of full game goodness.

    Why full game cows?
    Cows offer the highest monster density of anywhere in the game. Full games offers you the lowest nodrop chance for each kill. Killing effectively in full game Cows will give you the best return on all items - jewels, runes, charms, and of course MF targets. The only things Cows cant drop are the TC87 uniques that you have to hunt for from Pindle etc.

    Why a fire sorc?
    They're super cheap, for one. And they're more scalable than other pure builds that are unviable without certain items. You dont need Griffons or Enigma or Infinity or any of the other expensive runewords or uniques required for an effective Lightning Sorc, Javazon, or other effective full game cow builds. The mechanics of Fireball also maximize its potential when you can group large amounts of high-hitpoint monsters in a small area, ie when you get a bunch of full game Cows swarming your merc.

    How specialized is she?
    Very. Aside from the fact that she's pure Fire and Fire Immunes are all but unbreakable, and ubiquitous outside Cows - even in low-player Cows, the mechanics of a Fireball sorc vs other Cowing builds means that other builds are going to be more efficient. She's really only good for the one thing (and probably MFing bosses, as all sorcs are), but damn she's good :)

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    The Stats and Skills

    Max FB, FBolt, Meteor, FM
    1 pt Warmth, Cold Armor, TP-TK
    1 pt in Glacial Spike and prereqs
    Rest of points in Static Field

    STR for gear. DEX for max block (yes!). Rest in VIT. We get enough Life/VIT from gear to have a comfortable total (especially if you add a CtA), with regen from our merc. The main danger in Cows is their swarming physical attack, for which 75% block is your best defense.

    Think about it this way...75% block takes over 3.5x less damage from blockable attacks than base-dex block. You arent going to triple your base life after gear if you dump Vit. And, really, physical (blockable) attacks are the only major danger in Cows.

    The Gear
    Italicized gear is optional/ideal, if you want to spend the extra for it

    Tal Orb, Amulet (Fire Facet)
    35FCR Spirit
    Shako (Fire Facet)
    Magefists
    War Travs
    2x Nagel, 2x SoJ gives up some MF for power
    Tal Armor (Fire Facet)
    Tal Belt, Arachnid Mesh gives up some MF for power

    Switch: CtA+Spirit

    Gheeds Anni Torch Fire Skillers MFSCs bleh bleh

    A2 Prayer Merc: eth elite Insight, (eth elite Infinity, obviously greatly increases your damage but also costs more than the rest put together), Shaftstop, Vgaze. %DR is your merc's friend in Cows.

    We hit the golden 105 FCR BP with any combination of the above. Our unorthodox 3 (or 4) piece Tal's gives us -15% Enemy Fire Resistance, a huge boon in Cows, as well as the usual big MF bonus you use 3-piece Tal's for. 3 -5 Facets will double that bonus. And, you're looking at at least ~250 MF, with the possibility going much higher.

    Why not full Tals? 210 Life and +3 skills are the only extra mods of interest for using Tal's helm and belt vs Shako+Arach. Shako+Arach give us the same +3 skills and a good bit of life and mana anyway, plus 50MF and 10%DR. Full Tals is definitely viable as well, but you're not really gaining anything offensively, and you're giving up a few useful other mods in the process.

    The Playstyle

    Find a nice, young Chaos-Baal game or other full game you expect to be up long enough to be worthwhile. You should have your leg+tome already in your cube when you join. Join, open up, enter portal, buff your buffs.

    TP around until you have a good-sized pack of cows all swarming towards your merc. Static them to half life (this is where the extra points in SF are nice). Fireball to death. If you have a really big pack of beef headed your way, a Meteor may be indicated. If necessary, use your Glacial Spike right on top of your merc to freeze the cows for about a second and help keep him alive. Sift through the pinata-fall for goodies :)

    Try not to waste your time on small packs or singles; Fireball works best when there's a big swarm to spam it towards, and you're always on the clock in full games. Fire Immune boss cows can be skipped, or your merc can handle them - but of course that takes precious time away before the game empties.

    Once the game empties, you can continue to clear Cows in solo mode, or you can TP back to town immediately, sell up as necessary (and buy a tome), and head towards Tristram to grab a leg for your next game. Hopefully the game maker finished the Cain quest, but maddeningly most bot-created games wont have a Tristram portal open, meaning you'll have to make a new game for your next leg.

    It goes without saying that if you see the King's corral, you turn tail and run the other way. This build absolutely must maintain its Cow Portal-opening ability.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    Hmmm, are you recommending block with Spirit? I don't think that's a good measure.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    if i d need a block on any char (beside homo-din) i d use stormshield, which would let us swap rings to fcr rings.

    not sure about BP's through, discard this advice after telling me exact fcr bonus from tal set.

    And I believe that mephisto'z fire "sork" guide covers everything?
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    Yes, block with Spirit. You need the 35 FCR for the BP, so no SS/Mosers, and the +2 skills, vit, and mana boost of course give you a lot. Tal set gives 50, Magefist 20.

    Like I said above, for the Cow-specific role, the 300ish points in Dex for max block give you better survivability than the extra 600 raw life points you'd get from investing them in Vit. The difference between this and a run-of-the-mill pure-fire sorc is she's a fine-tuned hot rod specifically for Cowing :) Maxed for what you need, nothing you dont, like resists.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    Wouldent the block rate on the base monarch shield cause you to go into a blocklock(stunlock)? esp at cows, if one cow hit you and you block you wount have the time to tp out because of the animation before the next hit you?

    Atleast that was what i thought. Have you tested this sorc? or is this theory only?

    I was curious about this earlier on but everyone was saying no! to blocking with spirit.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    This is indeed a problem. It's better if you just avoid getting hit all-together. In the case you do get hit, you'd rather not block. Your blocking will be slower than your hit-recovery, and hit-recovery will be less likely especially evenmore so with more life.

    You can't really use the block to start tanking cows anyway. 75% is not reliable enough for that.



     
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    Yes, it is tested. I didnt have a problem with blocklocking, though....in Cows, since they're so slow, you're better served simply trying to walk away from them when you get swarmed than trying to TP away, and I rarely had a problem with getting blocklocked when I did that.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    just a couple of thoughts;
    1: max block with a spirit is something that should only be contemplated by Paladins. if you need max block, it's because you plan on getting hit. if you plan on getting hit, build a Barb or a Paladin.
    2: Frozen Armour works a treat against Cows.
    3: Full Tal's Set > Partial Tal's Set.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    Not wanting to deviate much, but Spirit Blocking is also viable with Amazons. There is a guide about a hybrid java/bowa that uses block with Spirit on the Javelin setup. The high dex used for high damage with bows is enpough for having max block and Zons have a high base blocking speed.
     
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    Re: The Grillmistress: A Pure Fire, Full-Game Cow Sorc

    No, it's just a by-product of maximizing your bow damage. You can't tank anything if you want to use Spirit Monarch for blocking, because it's two unlucky hits and you're out. If you can't tank anything, there is not any reason to have block. You'd rather have more life for the few cases you do get hit, or for all the attacks you can't block anyway.

    Amazons aren't really in any kind more special in this than for example Assassins, except that physical bowazons have so little skill ED that it pays off pumping dex over vita and you get maxblock with a Spirit as side result.



     

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