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The fun LLD guide

Discussion in 'Classic' started by JoeDamned, Apr 18, 2005.

  1. JoeDamned

    JoeDamned Banned

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    The fun LLD guide

    Hello, I am new to this forum but it doesn't seem to be an extremely tightly woven community so I should hope I can fit in quite easily.

    First my contact information;

    Username; JoeDa
    Realm; US West
    Ladder; Yes
    Most Common Character; LoS_BvB, LoS_SpeEder

    Anyways, into the guide;

    A good LLD is basically one of the most enjoyable feelings you will have in the ENTIRE game, they are extremely easy to make since they require next-to-no leveling and dueling is fun as heck.

    What is an LLD?
    An LLD is a "Low Level Dueler" this means that you will be dueling in normal difficulty setting and may on occassion have to bring in a higher level character if one of those lvl 40+ people comes into the low lvl dueling room and starts harrassing you.

    Why make an LLD?
    This is pretty much my favourite type of character, basically it is just non-stop fun to duel in normal mode and own people 10 levels higher than you thinking they are all that because a level 12 hostiled them while they are level 20+ or whatever and are very ignorant. Bam! They are dead in a few swings, they did like 2 damage to you and they are calling you everything from a hacker to godly character and pretty much ALWAYS want to see your weapons.

    What level should my LLD be?
    Basically ANYTHING under 30, the lower you are the better because being an LLD is all about showing off your "Mad Talent", so if you are a lvl 12 LLD, and you kill a lvl 25, they will be more amazed and calling you Godly than if your a lvl 24 and kill the same person. However anything under level 30 still works, as long as you amaze people and can own.

    How do I MAKE an LLD?
    Simply by getting appropriate items for the level of the LLD you wish to make (If you want to make a level 12, Angelics is a VERY good idea) and being TOTALLY based around those items.

    For example, if the highest str requiring item that you will use needs 50 str, ONLY GET 50 STR. As SOON as you are done meeting all the requirements for your items, dump all your stats into vit, sometimes you can get your vit up to 70+ by level 12, sometimes you can only get it to level 30, it is ALL BASED ON THE ITEMS YOU USE.

    What are some good items to use for my LLD?
    Set items are your friend.
    Set items are your friend.
    Set items are your friend.
    Did you get that?
    Because MOST rares and uniques that have under 15 level requirement are nothing much to be amazed about, few exceptions which I will explain.

    Best set items to use;
    1. Angelic rings + ammy (Number 1 priority set item)

    2. Angelic Mantle (+1 to skills, low str req, 250 def, level 12, only if you are using ring(s) + ammy should you use this)

    3. Hsaurus boots + buckler + belt = *Can't be frozen*, AR, 20 fr, 20 cr and some max dmg, this is optional set.

    4. Sigon Boots = 40 COLD RES OMFG, 20 frw, can use alone
    Sigon Helm = Mana, def, etc, dont use without another sig, w/ other = AR
    Sigon Gloves = 10 str, AR, w/ other = 30 IAS
    Sigon Shield = +1 SKILLS! VERY VERY IMPORTANT!

    5. Death sash = *Can't be frozen*
    Death hand = Poision res, w/ other = 30 ias
    Death weapon = 10-25 dmg, w/o other = +25-75 COLD DAMAGE OMFG

    What class of character for an LLD?
    Basically 2 classes you can go with;
    Barbarian
    or
    Paladin
    *Only these classes can be mega strong at low levels w/o much mana pots needed*

    What KIND of pally/barb for LLD?
    Paladins
    - Zealer (Balance between Sacrafice *Zeal Synergie* and dmg aura Might for maximum dmg, might switch aura to Cold Res/Light Res/Fire Res depending on how much res your LLD gear has, then dump into zeal)

    - Sacraficer (All Sacrafice + Might, may switch to a res aura depending on your gear res, AS MUCH HP AS YOU CAN GET, MUST BE OVER 200)

    - Charger (1 smite, rest might *Charge Synergie*, then dump into charge, even if you are going to use a res aura make SURE to dump lots into might because it helps the damage of charge greatly)

    - Tank (If your using good res gear, dump lots into defiance for amazing def, if your using good def gear, dump stuff into res auras, just make sure you can stand up to any attack and laugh) *This might be a bad idea for an LLD, never tried it*

    Barbarians
    - Double swing (Mastery that suits both your weapons until lvl 6, then dump into double swing)

    - Power hitter (Bash + Mastery of weapon you will use, balance evenly) *Never tried*

    - Master (Dump everything into mastery, easy)


    What weapon should I use?
    Double Swing barb = 2 death swords, + death sash + death hand
    Master = The best weapon you can find that is a low level req that you will be able to use early and get the mastery for at lvl 1
    Charger = Good Damage Pike, Full cleglaws or a hammer + shield combo
    Sacraficer = Bloodrise, full deaths works well, as well
    Zealer = Anything that hits fast and does good dmg, full deaths works well here


    Conclusion
    There characters rock!
    Death set = Best Set for LLD if you can stand the str+dex req
    Angelics = A must have for armor+rings+ammy = AR + 1 skills, +75 fire res

    Make SURE to try to get a +1 to all skills item! If you can get 2-3 of them it is GREAT because you can stay at a low level yet use an advanced level of that skill!

    RESISTANCES AND VITALITY ARE YOUR BEST FRIENDS! LOVE THEM!
     
  2. Dacar92

    Dacar92 Community, Amazon, DH Moderator & Inc Clan Officer

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    Cool idea for a guide. Welcome to the forums! I don't duel, but maybe someday I will.
     
  3. dantheman5415

    dantheman5415 IncGamers Member

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    I have a pretty good LLDer myself...a lvl 26 smiter.

    He uses:
    Angelic Rings and Ammy (Life and Damage to Mana)
    30ias Rare Cutlass (omfg speedy)
    Twitch (duh)
    Deaths Gloves and Belt (CBF, IAS, Res, what more could you ask for)
    Goblin Toe/Res Frw Boots (For Melee and Sorcs)
    30/20 Barbed Shield
    3 Perfect Ruby Socketed Mask (114 life is a big deal in LLD)

    He has 648 life, like 50 mana, and smite does 236 max damage.

    Skill points are as follows:
    20 smite
    1 Charge
    1 Holy Bolt
    1 Blessed Hammer
    3 Holy Shield
    1 Might
    1 Blessed Aim
    1 Concentration

    He owns pretty much any melee char and most casters in LLD, except until someone brings in their lvl 80 >.<
     
  4. JoeDamned

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    I have 2 different LLD's, one is a level 12 and one is a level 25 I think.

    The level 12 is a double swing barb, his stats are;
    1 bash
    7 Double Swing
    7 Sword Mastery
    1 shoutythingthatscaresmonsters
    2 shout

    His gear is;
    2 death swords
    death hand
    death sash
    Sigon boots
    Angelic Rings + Ammy
    Angelic Mantle
    3 RUBY socket mask (Used to be biggins but had to xfer it to my new bvb)

    Level 25 is a cold zealer, his stats are;
    6 Sacrafice
    6 Zeal
    10 Cold Resist
    1 Might
    1 Holy fire
    10 Holy Cold

    His gear is;
    Sigon Boots
    Sigon Helm
    Sigon Shield
    Death sword
    Death sash
    Death hand
    Angelic rings + ammy
    Angelic Mantle

    Both of these LLD's work VERY well, the only problem is that I don't have tons of gear so I just have to switch my deaths and angelics back and forth to any LLD I want to use at that time. Oh well.

    I wish I still had my biggins but I am using it in my new super strong BVB.
     
  5. TheCerberus

    TheCerberus IncGamers Member

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    My LLD smiter used Bloodfists/Deaths, rare Spiked Shield, Gnasher/Khalim's Flail, Death's Sash, Biggin's, Hotspurs, and rest rares. It worked pretty well IMO.
     
  6. xXxJDub75xXx

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    dantheman5415, this sounds like a build i may be interested in, so i have a couple questions for you.

    1) How did you distribute your char's stats?

    2) In theory a rare akaran targe with a clvl req of 26 would do bigger damage than a barbed shield. Have you thought of this?
     
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    paladin shields dont exist in classic
     
  8. JoeDamned

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    Does anyone know of a really good level 12 shield?
    I have got;
    Sigon shield, +1 to skills (But needs 75 str, not good)
    Unique small shield, 20 life, 65 block rate, blinds, 10 dex (Could be more useful..)

    And that is about all I have, does anyone know of a better shield?
     
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    if its for a smiter, go rare spiked. if its for anything else, go pelta lunata.
     
  10. JoeDamned

    JoeDamned Banned

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    Sigon shield is just a great shield, that is all I can say, my best lld doesn't need a shield so that is good.

    However I did find a very good rare bone but since I don't have any good boots I am stuck needing 70 str for sigon boots anyways and the rare bone becomes useless.
     
  11. dantheman5415

    dantheman5415 IncGamers Member

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    For smiters, spiked shields are the way to go for under 25 duels, but after that, your best bet is a 30/20 barbed with damage to mana (helps a lot in duels)
     
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    I've seen you around LoS. I may even have dueled you once with my LLD. I use a sacrificer, named JTsBeatingHeart.

    He is lvl 11, 10 sacrifice, 1 might.

    He uses cathans ammy/rings (gg leech, fire dmg, 20str!!!!)
    deaths set (your right, just amazing)
    sigs helm/boots (ll, cr, ar) or biggins/hotspur (edmg, life, ar, fr)
    Greyform (unique quilted armor 5%ll, 10 dex, 20 cr/fr)
    umbral disk (10 dex, life 65 block for pala)

    He really is gg for his lvl, but I'm thinking of remaking him at lvl 12 and using
    same setup, but with angelics rings/ammy instead of cathans. His ar is only like 800, so he is lacking in the %to hit category.

    Anyway, I will remake him soon, and then challenge your LL barb (double swing one) to a duel :) USWEST *Jezza *Jezza3
     
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    Jezza, are you JtsBurningSoul?
    I used to have a real fun LLD.
    Used: Rare pike with something like 102 max dmg, 90 AR, cold dmg.
    Angelics bling, angelics armour,
    Deaths gloves/sash
    3 ruby helm
    hsarus boots

    was level 12, and highest person i pk'ed was a level 56 orber lol
    Anything under lvl 30 was easy.
    700 dmg charge ^^

    Only LLD i couldnt beat was my freinds cleg charger
     
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    i have a nice charge lld, well lvl 29.

    2x Angelic Halo
    Angelic Wings
    Death's Guard
    Bloodfist
    Steeldriver
    Biggons Bonnet
    Treads of Cthon
    Twitchthroe

    skills are 20 might, rest charge

    stats are 40 str base(+10 from twitch) and rest vit

    i have pwned every sorc i have faced, only think i might have problems with are javazons
     
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    What do you think of my setup?

    Deathsword 1
    Deathsword 2
    Death's Hand
    Death's Sash
    Angelic Ring 1
    Angelic Ring 2
    Angelic Amulet
    Angelic Body Armor
    Tarnhelm
    Sigon Greaves

    Resistances:
    Fire= 65
    Lightning=15
    Cold=55
    Poison=65
     
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    Sounds good, tho I would change tarn for a 3 socket mask with the highest quality rubies for that barbs level. The Death's swords are very stat intensive so that build tends to be low on life. Works very well against most chars, but expect to die quickly vs. any lld with a shield.
     
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    The only thing I would change is go with deaths hand instead of bloodfists, and maybe change biggens to a 3 sock p ruby helm.
     
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    Los and Ethos Eeeh, maybe I should join the club...My friend eddy or you may know his account as Krazy-axe, Krazy-lance just made a LLD and he's having a load of fun...I feel like im missing out :(. Anyway im gona try either a sacrificer thing or a zealot thing.. :lol:
     
  19. fredsta54

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    did somebody say cleg lld zealer? :lol:


    (seriously tho they own)



    Fred
     
  20. Still-Xey-Lover

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    I'm curious, how much damage do these Death Set doubleswingers pull out? Maybe dual cleg swords would be better, but without the shield there's no ias or crushing blow so it might not be as powerful.
     

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