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the best chaos merc

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by BPGest, Apr 22, 2008.

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    BPGest IncGamers Member

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    the best chaos merc

    What's the best merc for chaos in your guys opinions? I have a hammerdin, and I don't know which merc to use.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    for a hammy? ez

    A1 Ice Arrow Rogue Merc
    Treachery Armour
    Andy's Face
    Ice Bow

    handy dandy holy freeze aura, frost nova's popping off all over the show and 100% immune to Iron Maiden.

    you're a hammerdin, you don't need your merc to actually kill things do you?
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    3 questions.
    1. Why treachery armor and not eth fort?
    2. Does it matter what difficulty I get the merc in?
    3. Why not a HoJ, wouldn't the +3 freeze do something?

    Thanks for the feedback
     
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    mephiztophelez IncGamers Member

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    Re: the best chaos merc

    because:
    treachery gives a lot of IAS, more IAS = more frost novas going off and more slowing from the cold arrows themselves. this merc can freeze/slow everything down a treat.
    the bonus res/dr once fade procs is just gravy.
    again: you're a hammerdin. you don't need your merc to do any killing outside of the Act 3 temples.
    yes. i would hire my merc in Normal unless i was specifically after a Might, thorns or Holy Freeze act 2 merc.
    mercs hired in normal get slightly better stats than those hired in hell. thankfully, we don't need to "level up" our mercs any more.

    i doubt the +3 freeze would do much in slowing. certainly not as useful as the Ice bows Holy Freeze aura. the frost nova's are just extra slowing power.

    you're welcome.



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    + +



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    Fortitude -> Soul protection, more leech and defense to stay alive, It's neat having a mercenary that stays alive. Treachery doesn't help leech that much, does it? Anyway, The defense seals the deal imo.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    the faster you shoot, the more you hit, the more you hit, the more you leech.

    as for the damage from fort, it's added in with the concentration aura %ed (and the rogues own skill based %ed), not multiplied by it.

    lots of ias from treach + andy's......

    you know, it's amazing how rarely rogue mercs actually get hit by melee monsters.

    the purpose of this merc is NOT to kill things. it's to slow everything else around you down so your hammers hit 'em more often.

    it's other main attribute is that it doesn't die instantly from Iron Maiden.



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    Perhaps. but 45% IAS VS 300% ED there's no clear favourite imo. If your andarials visage has an IAS jewel you already have 35%.


    Fade > 25-30% resist, but meh, only if Fade procs.


    Dmg reduction? fortitude will get you about 7000 more defense when chilling armour procs, and double without. that's much more useful even if the dmg reduction on fade was doubled.


    I'll pick a fortitude to survive, personally.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    act 2 merc in chaos . haha . spent millions and millions of gold spent of ressurecting merc for many years now due to Iron maiden.

    well. making act 1 rogue merc would definitely have no problem with IM. trying to get a merc faith for her .. for my bowazon/ haha.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    As others have stated before, I'd go with A1 merc :p Even with a non-eth Halberd Insight, my merc manages to 2-shot himself so just stick with redemption :)
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    Ice bow, not Faith for hammy merc.



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    I use Act 1 merc for the same reason. It's there more to pick on Oblivion Knights that insist on escaping from hammer fields and hiding in corners. An alternative if you're poor is Harmony Bow. It's Vigor aura will make you move faster and it does nice damage also. Witchwild String may be even cheaper and Act 1 mercs have a bug that makes Deadly Strike work even for the elemental damage.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    I tried out the treachery, andy, and ice combination. It works pretty amazing. Everything in chaos moves like a snail. It's the fastest I've ever done chaos.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    I'm a fan of duriels shells on all my mercs, the res all, life, and cbf are all great mods. I can't, however, say I've ever used a treachery on a a1 merc, I'll have to try that out sometime.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    And you'll already be having ~500% ED because you're running a level 30ish concentration.



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    Treachery = ctc fade = damage reduction + resists = insta win.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    An a3 merc with a lawbringer or azurewrath is fun for chaosing with, too.
     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    booyakka!!



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    I just have to nitpick on this one.
    For a rogue, especially with an ice bow, a LOT of the damage will be elemental, which the 300%ED won't work on. Also, you'll have a concentration double the %ED from fort, which means that the ED from fort will take ~1400 physical damage already to 2k physical damage, whilst the IAS from treachery will help both physical damage AND elemental damage. Even the venom proc.

    Defense? Don't kid yourself. Monster AR is pretty high, and the really dangerous attacks in chaos are elemental, all of them. A rogue will stay out of melee range (and if any monster would get in melee range, it would die instantly from hammers, or at least lock in hit recovery) but will be a prime target for oblivion missiles. When they LR her, the fade proc will be necessary to maintain resists as well.

    And finally, treachery is WAY cheaper, and makes your merc look way cooler when fade procs.



     
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    Re: the best chaos merc

    I like guardian angel and kiras guardian feels like I've said this before... 90 fr/cr/lr even when lr cursed and melee are to slow to walk up and swing at her and me ;)
     

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