Thanks to the forums, my first Patriarch!! I wanted to thank everybody that posts in the Necro forum. I've played Diablo for a few years and have tried a lot of different chars. About a month ago I started my first necro as a Fishymancer. Last night I took down Hell Baal without any trouble. Thanks to Fishy for the guide and thanks to all the other posts I read that helped me along the way. NECROS RULE!!! Troxey How did all of you get your first Patriarch/Matriarch?