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Thank you Janet Jackson and stupid people who can't change a channel

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by SirKnightmare, Mar 19, 2004.

  1. SirKnightmare

    SirKnightmare IncGamers Member

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    Thank you Janet Jackson and stupid people who can't change a channel

    If you haven't noticed Janet Jackson not being able to keep her boob covered has caused a neo-conservative(no I'm not talking about Bush) outcry for censorship. Finally it hit my radio station who is now forced to censor curse words in the songs I listen to. This isn't about whether cursing should be in songs it is about the freedom of listening to whatever I want.

    I don't need some big scum bag company like Clear Channel determining my morals for me because some stupid mother can't change the channel when her kids are in the car. You don't like it, turn it off, don't punish the ones who do listen to it.

    The First Amendment talks about freedom of speech, which is being taken away right now. The Constitution says nothing about morals because they are in the eye of the beholder and different among anyway, someones morals should not be pushed on anyone else.
     
  2. MixedVariety

    MixedVariety Banned

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    There is no point in arguing with you. When I was a kid, there was no swearing allowed on radio or TV, period, and we all grew up just fine without our 'rights' compromised in the least. I don't call swearing or nudity on public channels a right, I call it a perversion. You can buy the CD if it makes your day to hear the jerks sounding off their knowledge of profanity, or subscribe to pay channels if you want to see nudity. What's the big deal?
    Anyway, those of us with kids have to swallow an increasingly 'enlightened' media and do our best to shield them from the worst of it. Things are changing whether we like it or not, but I can wish for the good old days, can't I?
     
  3. NightShade

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    Teach them a lesson...Pirate their music I say!
     
  4. SirKnightmare

    SirKnightmare IncGamers Member

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    Well you see, there is something in this world called money and there is only so much of it. With the steep price of CDs it is kind of hard to buy the songs you like on the radio, especially when you have to buy a whole CD for one song. Not to mention that the variety of songs you hear on a radio station on a given day easily covers hundreds of dollars a day.

    So because parents are to irresponsible and want their kids to grow up with their morals though for some reason they are never with them, they whine and whine because they are too self-absorbed to look at the radio stations their children listen to. Who pays? The person listening to that station that you are paranoid your kid will hear the word "damn" from. You know it is not like they won't hear it at school, because we all know school is just a place of learning and having fun.
     
  5. Akira

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    Like I said, I won't argue with you. I certainly won't make you see things my way, nor will you convince me that freedom of speech includes profanity-at-will. I really don't think it's worth crabbing about. You will eventually get your wishes as, one by one, the morals and ethics of our country are stripped from us in the name of tolerance and freedom, and our children grub about in the dirt with the animals our forefathers strove so hard to separate us from.
     
  7. Akira

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    Don't get me started on the slippery slope you just pulled there.
     
  8. MixedVariety

    MixedVariety Banned

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    I'm not sure I understand the nebulous, substanceless lack of meaning you are portraying by this post. Did you mean to convey some information?
    No offense is meant, of course; I merely request clarification.
     
  9. Damascus

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    Slippery slope, it doesnt need clarification.
     
  10. Akira

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    Well, since its meaning certainly eludes your mind i'll give you a hand on your search.
     
  11. SaroDarksbane

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    They're telling you you can't listen to what you want to???

    Oh wait, no they're not. They're only setting standards about what you can and can't broadcast over the public airwaves.

    I guarantee you the FCC doesn't give a rat's *** what you listen to in your spare time.
     
  12. Anyee

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    Strange, I've heard the same thing said about giving blacks and women voting rights, disallowing prayer in schools, not killing homosexuals, not forcing Jews to live in a different part of town, and so on.

    How is your approach any different?
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree. Decency standards over the public airwaves are certainly comparable to the oppression of blacks or the holocaust.
    Your argument is a cop out. It can be used to justify anything.

    Person 1: You can't legalize ________! That's completely immoral!
    Person 2: Well, uh, blacks were oppressed at one time too!! Certainly the only reasonable thing would be to legalize ________ too!


    Fill in the blank with anything you like. It's like the silver bullet of debate! :thumbsup:
     
  14. memememe173

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    Damn, hell and b**** are not censored on my town's most popular radio station, **** and **** are. What the difference is I don't know. "Softcore" swearing and "hardcore" swearing is just like soft//hardcore porn, two names so that respectible people can do one.

    You do have to censor the media to cover your ***, plain and simple. Kids could be watching prime time T.V. so **** and **** arn't said and boobs arn't bare. Kids can't be reading the news or watching it (sarcasm) so we can discuss prostitution and domestic violence.

    Any kid who hears a beeped out word in a song, will most likely know what was just said. People are disillusioning themselves if they don't think that a kid in grade 2/3 knows the 5 basic swears (damn, hell, *deleted*, *deleted*, *deleted* and has used some to most of them. But by protecting them from the obvious and most controllable sources, every one can feel holy and that there kids are beiong raised perfect...cause after all if Daddy swears in front of you or with his friends it's all right, but if you do it...

    memememe,
    I think we have had this discussion before. Talking about the right to free speach in this forum does not give you the right to bypass the word filter.

    This is your last warning. Use it well.

    Freet
     
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    When using the "this is the way it's always been" argument, sure is.

    It's a very simple idea. if it's that bad, people won't listen to it. Then it will go away. If enough people listen to it that it can stay around, it's not really right to get rid of it now is it?
     
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    It is your duty as a child to control what gets through to your child. This would mean not listening to stations that are catered to 20-somethings or watching TV shows such as Melrose place or CSI. I totally agree with censorship on national television and shows catered to a younger audience or to people as a whole. The Super Bowl incident should NOT have occured as the Super Bowl is geared to people of all ages. However, censoring against Howard Stern just makes no common sense because the show is catered to a general audience, grown men.
     
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    Fine. Then you (Anyee/Damascus) must also wholeheartedly support junior-highers' right to have sex in school hallways during their break times. Someone argue against that.

    This thread could be fun! We'll see. :D
     
  18. memememe173

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    Life is all about common sense. My common sense tells me I should pay attention to what my [hypothetical] child watchs and listens to.

    Unfortuanatly in this day and age of beaurocrats and such, it is much easier to be reactive then proactive. So as more people figure this out, more people make a fuss, and more people with the common sense get screwed over.
     
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    Anyee, please, grant us one thread that isn't about *** jewish black women's suffrage, just this once
     
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    I will never understand why people get all tied up in knots over a swearword. They're not personally insulting in their general use. They're just words and completely harmless. It's not perversion... it's language.

    I don't understand the nipple thing either. It's a teeny bit of flesh. It's not like it's going to harm you or turn your kids into sexual degenerates. People need to relax.
     

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