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Templar Guide v1.1 by WvX_Leader --- Second Draft --- Comments needed pre-final

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    Templar Guide v1.1 by WvX_Leader --- Second Draft --- Comments needed pre-final

    Templar [Fist of Heavens pally] PvP guide v1.1

    Contents:

    I. Introduction
    II. Skill Choices
    III. Stat Choices
    IV. Equipment Choices
    V. Strategies
    VI. FAQ
    VII. Conclusion and Closing Notes




    Abbrevations Dictionary:

    AR = attack Rating
    Avenger = a paladin whose main attack is vengeance
    bm = bad mannered
    CB = crushing blow
    Crusader = a paladin whose main attack is charge
    def = defense
    dex = dexterity
    dmg = damage
    dr = damage reduction
    ds = deadly strike
    ed = enhanced damage
    ene = energy
    fbr = faster block rate
    fhr = faster hit recovery
    fcr = faster cast rate
    FOH = fists of the heavens
    fps = frames per second
    frw = faster run/walk
    ias = increased attack speed
    icb = increased chance of blocking
    itd = ignores target defense
    liberator = a paladin whose attacks are blessed hammers, FoH, and charge
    ll = life leech
    ml = mana leech
    ow = open wounds
    PvM = player vs. monster
    PvP = player vs. player
    ranger = a paladin who uses a bow
    str = strength
    v/t = Vindicator/Templar [smite/foh]
    vita = vitality
    Zealot = a paladin whose main attack is Zeal
    Templar = FOH paladin
    clvl = character level

    ALL MUST READ THIS:::
    By responding to this guide, I hereby understand that I will not flame the templar build or that it can be nulified with enough lightning resist. My post will be productive, not deductive. I understand that if a problem with the guide needs to be changed - I will address the problem without letting my ego get in the way.


    I. INTRODUCION

    I am on USWest Nonladder and you may have seen me going through your pk games - Primat_WvX. I have been seing a lot of questions about a templar and a few requests on a good guide. Thats what I am going to do for you today. 'Why Fist of Heavens?' you might ask... FOH combined with the conviction aura is one of the [or THE] deadliest public duel skills in the game. This build is pretty similar to a V/T build, but is Very different as well. This guide if for the rich, poor, stupid, and the smart. So if its too elementary for you - put up with it because I made it reader friendly. Lets go to the skills choices...


    II. SKILL CHOICES

    -Fist of Heavens: This will be your main attack, and maxing it is a must. 20 points go here.
    -Holy Shock: The only Synergy that effects the damage of FOH - and helps the damage greatly [a synergy is passive - you do NOT need to have this aura active to recieve the bonus]. 20 points go here
    -Conviction: This will be your main and always active aura. At level 25, this will reduce your enimies resistances by -150%. Without this aura FOH is next to nothing. DO NOT MAX THIS SKILL. ONLY put enough to get it to 25 with your end game items - since this skill is capped at lvl 25 [the -%resist]
    -Holy Shield: This will help your blocking and defense greatly. Maxing this is not a MUST but it is HIGLY reccomended for almost all PvP builds, since your defense will reduce the enemies chance to hit you. I highly reccomend 20 points here.

    ::pAUSE::

    At this time - with your necesities where the points need to go - you have used ABOUT 73 skill points. [It can change a bit depending on how much you need to get to 25 on conviction]. I will make this guide thinking you will get to level 80. Now at level 80 and with all your +skill quests done - you have about 91 skills to distrubute - so this leaves you with about 18 left.

    ::continues::

    Now the reccomended ONE POINT wonders:

    -Holy freeze [a nice tool to have when you need it]
    -Vigor [a lil +frw when you need it]
    -Salvation [if you have low resists - or if you need help to nullify an enimies conviction this can help]

    Now with some points to spare - what do i do?!?!?

    I would highly reccomend dumping the 'rest' into smite. Since in 1 vs 1 duels - a good opponent will stack their resists MAJORLY to nullify your conviction - hence making your FOH pointless. With smite, you can do some good damage to them and the shield you will want to get for FOH - deals nice smite damage as well. Try to dump your extra points here.

    If you are anti-smite , you can dump them into defiance. Defiance is a synergy to holy shield and will passively give you more defense.

    III. STAT CHOICES [ATTRIBUTES]

    Strength: Just enough to use the item with the most strength required. Make sure to factor all the +str you get from the items before it - so you can get maximum vitality.
    Dexterity: Just enough for maximum blocking. That depends on the shield you use etc - just ask someone about that.
    Vitality: ALL YOU CAN HERE
    Energy: NONE - nothing here

    IV. EQUIPMENT CHOICES

    Helms:

    Harlequin Crest Shako [98-144 defense]

    +2 all skills
    +1.5 life per clvl
    +1.5 mana per clvl
    +50% Magic Find
    Physical Damage reduced by 10%
    +2 all atributes

    The above would be your BEST choice for this build. With the 2 skills, nice life and mana, and descent damage reduced - this is the best choice for your build. Lets see the cheaper alternatives.

    Peasant Crown War Hat [92-108 defense]

    +1 all skills
    +20 energy
    +20 vitality
    +15% frw
    +6-12 replenish life
    100% enhanced defense

    The above would be a descent and very cheap alternative with the 1 skills, 20 ene and vit, and the frw.

    Vampire Gaze Grim Helm [122-252 defense]

    +6-8% mana stolen per hit
    +6-8% life stolen per hit
    15% slower stamina drain
    Physical Damage reduced by 15-20%
    Magical Damage reduced by 10-15
    +100% Enhanced damage
    Adds 6-22 cold damage

    The above would be a descent alternative if you Really needed the damage reduced. But since it isnt much more dr than a shako - and a shako has WAY better other mods - i would go with shako since they are about the same worth.

    Armour:

    Enigma RuneWord [jah+ith+ber]

    +2 all skills
    +45% frw
    +1 Teleport [this is not a charge - it acts as a skill for all classes]
    +757 defense
    +0.75 strength per clvl
    +Increased maximum life by 5%
    +Damage reduced by 8%
    +14 life after each kill
    +15% damage taken goes to mana [ does not effect life ]
    +1% magic find per clvl

    The above is your 1# armour for this build. The mods tell it all. 2 skills, major frw, the teleport skill [VERY effective in public duels], VERY high defense [can get up to about 1200], max life +5%, 8% dr. Expensive but worth while. If you can afford - get one.

    Gaurdian Angel Templar Coat [707-825 defense]

    +1 Paladin skills
    +4 Light radius
    +180%-200% enhanced defense
    +30% Faster Blocking
    +15% Maximum resists to all
    +5 attack rating against demons per clvl
    +20% chance to block

    The GA [most common abreviation for the gaurdian angel] is mostly used for the +15% max resists - giving you a possibility of 90 resists to all. With its one skill and good + max resists, this is the next best from the enigma.

    Chains of Honor RUNEWORD [dol+um+ber+ist]

    +2 all skills
    +200% damage to demons
    +100% damage to undead
    +8% life stolen per hit
    +70% enhanced defense
    +20 strength
    Replenish life +7
    +65 all resists
    Damage reduced by 8%
    25% magic find

    With two skills this is a nice armour. This is an alternative from the enigma armour, if you really need that 65 resists. Very good mods, and same worth as enigma on most realms. I still reccomend enigma.

    Orumus' Robes Dusk Shroud [361-467 defense]

    +10-20 defense
    +20% faster cast rate
    +(10-15)% to Fire skill damage
    +(10-15)% to Cold skill damage
    +(10-15)% to Lightning skill damage
    +3 Random sorc skill

    This armour is another alternative since the possibility of +15% more foh damage is available. Some people prefer it - I dont.

    Cheaper alternatives:

    ANYTHING with plus skills will do if you have a very small budget. Ill give a list of some armours that add skills that are cheap.

    -Vipermagi [+1]
    -Spirit shroud [+1 - VERY easy to find in mf]
    -Skullders [has good mf too]
    -Que-Heagans [not a bad armour][+1]
    -Silks of the Victor [+1]

    Weapons:

    Wizard Spike Bone Knife

    +2 mana per clvl
    +15% mana regeneration
    +15% max mana
    +75% all resists
    Indestructable
    +50% faster cast rate

    The above is my PERSONAL favorite, but many disagree. YET, if you can achieve enough lightning resists to negate an opponents conviction [explained later] without using the GODLY +75 resists - use the next item listed.

    Heart of the Oak RUNEWORD [ko+vex+pul+thul]

    +3 all skills
    +40% faster cast rate
    +75% Damage to demons
    +100 attack rating against demons
    +3-14 cold damage
    +7% mana stolen per hit
    +1 blizzard [sorc only]
    +10 dexterity
    +replenish life +20
    +Increased maximum mana +15%
    +all resists +30-40% [varies]
    Level 4 Oak Sage [25 charges]
    Level 14 raven [60 charges]
    +50% damage to undead

    With the 3 skills, oak sage, and other descent mods - this is your Best choice UNLESS you need the +75 resists from the wiz spike to reach a MAJOR lightning resist. [that number explained later so dont decide until you have finished reading]

    NOTE: A wizard spike is Very easy to get so its either that or HOTO - no more options explained.

    Shield:

    Herald of Zakarum [362-507 defense]

    +2 Paladin Skills
    +2 Combat Skills
    +150%-200% Enhanced defense
    +30% faster blocking
    +30% chance to block
    +20 strength
    +20 vitality
    +20% bonus attack rating
    +50% resists to all

    With the major skills, and the fact that EVERY stat is a nice bonus to all paladins [50 resists is VERY helpful as well], this is a no brainer best for a templar.

    Alma Negra [138-164 defense]

    +180-210 enhanced defense
    +30% faster block rate
    +(1-2) paladin skill levels
    +20% increased chance of blocking
    Magical damage reduce by (5-9)
    +(40-75)% bonus attack rating
    +(40-75)% enhanced damage

    With The skills this is an ok alternative - but too expensive to not get a herald of zakurum instead.

    Storm Shield [94-144 defense]

    +3.75 defense per clvl
    Physical damage reduced by 35%
    +30 strength
    +35% faster blocking
    +25% lightning resist
    +25% chance to block
    +60% cold resist
    Attacker takes 10 lightning damage

    This is an ok shield if you stress the damage reduced part.

    Belts:

    Arachnid Mesh [106-138 defense]

    +(90-120)% enhanced defense
    +20% faster cast rate
    Level 13 venom (11 charges)
    +1 all skills
    Slows target by 10%
    +5% maximum mana

    This belt is one of two reccomended belts for this build. The reason why it is so good is it's the only belt that has +1 skills. I reccomend having this one and the next one listed to switch for different opponents.

    Thundergod's Vigor [109-159 defense]

    5% chance of casting a lvl 7 FOH on struck
    +1-50 lightning damage [melee only]
    +10% maximum lightning resist
    Absorbs +20 lightning damage
    +160-200% enhanced defense
    +20 vitality
    +20 strength
    +3 Lightning strike [amazon only]
    +3 Lightning fury [amazon only]

    This built is my PERSONAL preference and I even sold my old arachnids mesh and use this baby 24/7. There are some VERY helpful mods on here and I think that they override the +1 skills on an arachnids. The 10% max light reists, absorbs lightning [not at %], strength, and the vitality are all great mods.

    Verdungo's Hearty Cord [108-153 defense]

    +(90-140)% enhanced defense
    +(30-40) vitality
    +(100-120) maximum stamina
    10% faster hit recovery
    Damage reduced by (10-15)%
    Replenish life +(10-13)

    This belt I have in stash for whirlwinding barbs. I do not have maximum damage reduction [which is now capped at 50% in 1.10] with my items on, and the 10 to 15% dr you get from this can help you with those barbs if they can take hits of your FOH. The vita is also very nice. Test them out first. If their life goes down on an foh - you can always run from them.

    Gloves:

    The gloves on a templar are next to nothing on the to-do list. There arent any legit godly gloves for this build. [there are the hacked wiz gloves but PLEASE DO NOT go out and support non-perm hacks]. I am not going to post the stats on the gloves here but here are a few possibilities.

    -Frostburns [if you need the mana]
    -Crafted gloves with resists/stats/ias [good for smite, and who doesnt want those resists]

    I use crafted gloves with ias, str, resists, and some other mods.

    Boots:

    My favorite for a templar are good rares with frw, fhr, stats, and good resists. Mine use the USWest dupes known as the Wraith Brands. With about 50% to all the elemental resists, +19 str and more - these are VERY helpful. Most expensive and useful option: get good rares. Here are the next best and unique options.

    Waterwalk [94-123 defense]

    +100 defense to missles
    +20% faster run/walk
    +15 dexterity
    +180-210% enhanced defense
    +45-65 life
    +40 stamina
    +5% maximum fire resist
    +50% stamina regeneration

    Some people prefer these boots but I dont. The life and good defense and the 5% max fire resist are the good mods here. I still prefer rares with good stats.

    Silkweave [94-115 defense]

    +150-190% enhanced defense
    +5 mana after each kill
    +200 defense vs. missles
    +10% maximum mana
    +30% faster run/walk

    These boots are very cheap and help if you need mana [for some odd reason].

    Rings:

    Wisp Protector

    Lightning absorb +(10-20)%
    10% chance to cast a lvl 16 lightning on striking
    (10-20)% magic find
    Lvl 2 Oak sage (15 charges)
    Lvl 5 Heart of Wolverine (13 charges)
    Lvl 7 spirit of barbs (11 charges)

    This is my favorite ring because the 10-20% lightning absorb and the oak sage. That lightning absorb makes you awesome vs all lightning attacks and most importantly, FOH. NOTE: These are very expensive...

    Bul Kathos Wedding Band

    +0.5 life per clvl
    +1 all skills
    +3-5% life stolen per hit
    +50 stamina

    This is another favorite of mine. I usually have a wisp and a bul kathos on at all times. The 40 life at character lvl 80, and the +1 skills is very sexy.

    The Stone of Jordan

    +20 mana
    +25% maximum mana
    +1-12 lightning damage
    +1 all skills

    This is an effective cheaper alternative. Yet if you can get a hold of a soj, then you could probably get ahold of a bul kathos. You will NOT need to worry about all that mana add, so the life on a bul kathos will do more for you in the long run.

    Amulets:

    A rare amulet with +2 skills, stats, resists, and other mods is your best option. If you are on west - a duped Viper Torc would be your best option. Now onto those non-rares options...

    Mara's Kaleidoscope

    +2 all skills
    +20-30% resists all
    +5 all attributes

    This is your next best option from a really good rare amy. With the 2 skills, 20-30 resists, and the 5 attributes - its a great amulet and not hard to get.

    Cheap amys:

    If you cant get one of the amulets listed - get a rare amulet with combat skills on it. Thats a cheap and effective alternative.

    CHARMS:::

    To be very effective in PvP - you will NEED 10 combat gcs. They are not hard to get. When I made my templar I traded for a gc one at a time just cleaning off old mules... If you are very rich you can get them with life. For the small charms I reccomend life / resists charms. Also life / lightning resists [solo resists - max mod is 11] are good to help you nulify an opponents conviction. If you cant afford life / resists mayby just look around for some solo lightning resists scs. I have found them in normal, nightmare, and hell and they are easy to trade for if your budget does not allow. Also try to get an annihilus [if you have one]. All the mods on that will help you be better.

    V. Strategies

    Amazons:

    Bowazons: Bowazons are very easy in 99/100 duels. Just stand there and FOH the hell out of them. Notice zons have dodge [passive skill that gets annoying] so it may take a few to actually HIT them. But once you do most zons dont bother to stack all that lightning resists to nulify your conviction. Most bowazons are a one hit kill.

    Javazons: Same as bowazons but a little riskier. This is one of the reasons why i reccomend dumping points into smite. If they are too fast and you cant hit them with FOH in time for them to come up and hit you - smite and holy freeze takes any javazon out. But for pure FOH - run [teleport if enigma] and FOH.

    Assassins:

    Trappers: You will need some time to get good with them. Their mind blast skill [if they get it on you] will make it so you cant FOH. You - will definately need teleport to get them with pure FOH. Stay on your toes and FOH. If you have a smite option [reccomended to dump all extra points there] then put on holy freeze and run up to them and smite them. If your lightning resists are high enough the smite will do the trick since you can eventually get to them while running throught their mind blasts.

    All Melee Assassins: Just dont let them get too close to you. Stay a few yards out and just keep FOHing. If they use whirlind [granted from the chaos claw runeword], be careful. A good whirlwinding assassin can put some good damage on you.

    Barbarians:

    Whirlwind: Unless they have HELLA lightning resists - they are a JOKE to you. It is VERY easy to dodge those whirwinds - and just keep FOHing them. If they have hella resists - throw on your low damage smite option and see if it hurts them [use holy freeze with smite]

    Conc, Frenzy, Bezerk, etc barbs: Just run and FOH. simple with them. If you want to have a fun fair duel - smite them for the hell of it. Just DONT get hit by those bezerk barbs. Those hits Hurt.

    Druids:

    Melee druids: Simple duel. Most dont have very good frw and most cant teleport. Just stay away and tele. If you want to smite them you can.

    Elemental druids: These are your WORST enemy. Their absorb armour skill completely makes your FOH WORTHLESS. I reccomend just staying away from elemental druids. But if you want to at least try, run up to them and smite them for the hell of it.

    Necromancers:

    Necro Note: Without teleport you have a slim chance because of bone prison.

    Bonemancers: Can be a very hard duel. You will need good skill and timing here. Those bone spears travel friggin fast. You need to be able to think about where they are going - and you need to go wherever they wouldnt expect it. Get Just close enough to get conviction on - then run and dodge spears and you try to get some FOH in there.

    Bone Spirit: Not much different from bonemancers. JUST KEEP MOVING. If they have like 15 bone spirits following you - do NOT make that mistake of stopping to let them all hit you. It could very well take you out [i have this bad luck of having that last one kill me]. Also do not make the mistake of dodging on your feet only. They will bone prison you and sometimes you just arent ready to teleport out fast enough. Just keep moving and you will do fine.

    Paladins:

    Other Templars: These are fun duels. VERY fun as long as you have good lightning resists... With my set up, other FOHers heal me with my resists and absorb. Its very simalar to a zealot vs zealot duel. Just stand and go. Its also very fun to throw some smites in there if they dont mind.

    Melee paladins: Vs. all non-smiters, just run and FOH. If a good charger with a good weapon and good ar comes along, be careful. I reccomend letting the charger come to you [that way you are standing still and you get 100% of your defense]. Vs zealots - just smite. Vs smiters - FOH them. If they can block your FOH this is a disadvantage since their smite wont be as good as theirs. Good luck with a very good smiter.

    Hammerdins: With precision and patience this is a farely easy duel. You need to let them come to you. DO NOT go to them unless you are ready to go through a maze of dodging hammers. Just stay back and wait for them to start going to you. When they do just FOH and they are gone. If they are liberators [charge/hammer] just wait for them to charge you. When they are charging - FOH them at will - but once those hammers start flying, stay away until the charging starts again.

    Sorceresses:

    Fire: Most fire sorcs are fireball / meteor. This duel is very easy with timing. If you can dodge a fireball and not run into a circular meteor timer on the ground - you should be ok. Vs. all those fireball sorcs with a LOT of fcr, do NOT teleport to them. Stay on your feet because it will be a hell of a lot easir not to make a mistake since most of them shoot in a semi-circular motion. Tip for fireball: Be off screen and start Running around them in a circle. They will start shooting you in the same semi-circular motion. The moment they try to shoot AHEAD of you so that you will run into them - charge [teleport if you have] to them from the opposite of the way you were running and if you can get there quick enough it is farely easy.

    Lightning: Lightning sorcs have the ability to achieve hella lightning damage. Luckily for you, you are built to slay other templars so their lightning damage hardly hurts you with the right gear. Thunderstorm is easy and just get to a chain light sorc before she gets to you.

    Cold: A fairly duel if they are a good blizard sorc. All other forms of cold should not be a problem. But as far as blizzard - think what he would be thinking [think ahead]. Try to guess where your opponent would drop their blizzard, and dodge them accordingly. This is a very hard duel to win, and if you dont have teleport since those blizzard sorcs tend to teleport a LOT more than all other sorcs, your chances will be little to none. Just dodge and hit.

    VI. FAQ

    Q: Isnt this build very similar to a V/T?

    A: No. A V/T focuses on smite and uses FOH as their secondary. This build is the opposite.


    Q: Do I need to worry about faster cast rate?

    A: No. There is a 1 second delay on Fist of Heavens - so dont worry about fcr.


    Q: What are those items I just NEED to get?

    A: Things you definately need to shoot for and arent too bad to get are a Herald of Zakurum, 10 combat gcs, and good lightning resists. If there is one elite item you can get, GET AN ENIGMA. An enigma is the heart and soul of a templar.

    Q: Why smite if you cant put hardly any skills into it?

    A: If someone spent the time and money to make your conviction do nothing, and resists your FOH completely, you need to be able to use another skill to kill them. My reason for choosing smite is you already have its only synergy maxed [holy shield], and a herald of zakurum already has very good smite damage.

    Q: Does -% lightning resists from a rainbow facet jewel work with FOH?

    A: Yes.


    VII. Conclusion and Closing Notes

    This is the second draft and I hope it to be the last before I have the final ready. There were some bad comments to my poor strategies, so I tried much harder to make those viable. Please respond with all comments, flames, and hate mail. I am hoping this will be version 2 out of 3.

    Thanks,

    -ben
     
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    For your helms you should also list Crown of Ages. 1 to skills, resists, dr, up to 2 sockets. Its much better than gaze if you need the dr.
     
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    Itll be there on final.
     
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    Doesnt that helm need massive str, even w/ enigma?

    Nice, I especially liked that little quote that sadly was not sarcasm or exaggerated: "What do i do now?!??!!!???!!!" :clap:
     
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    Nice guide. Here is my recommendations for gear. This gear will help against those people who stack lightning resist by making the damage much higher so even if conviction is negated than you still do lightning damage (of course dual wisp projecter + tgods would still negate it)

    Keep in mind that -resists from other sources DOES stack with conviction.

    Another note is that mana isnt really an issue with FoH. Dont worry about SoJs. BK is a much better choice.

    Griffon's Eye (+1 skills, +15% Lit damage, -15% enemy lit resist). Socket with 5/5 lightning facet.
    Ormus robe (+15% lightning damage)Socket with 5/5 lightning facet
    HoZ (+2 skills, +2 combat skills, ect) SOcket with 5/5 lightning facet
    Ravenfrost (CBF)
    Bul Kathos (+1 skills)
    Arachnid's mesh (+1 skills)
    6 socket phase - 6x 5/5 lightning facets
    40% FRW boots (sometimes you have to run)
    Rare gloves with str/dex/resists
    +3 combat skills amulet
    Annihilus
    10x Combat charms

    This will give you a lvl 41 FoH. With your gear it will add 75% lightning damage on top of that. In addition to you -150% resists from conviction you also get another -60% resists that they would have to negate.

    Another option is to use a scepter with +3 combat and +3 FoH and then socket it with 2 facets. I'm not sure which is more damaging off hand.

    Bear in mind... this build may slay your opponent, but it may also slay your wallet. Its very expensive to build a good Templar.
     
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    So using more than two items that absorbs a single element is not BM now ???

    Thundergod + Wisp Protector ????
     
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    It is BM. That doesnt mean people wont do it though
     
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    I use Wisp + Tgods in pubbies.

    And thats only because I am going against doom barbs, etc.

    In 1 vs 1 respectfully I use one absorb item.

    SoulThief - I did mention that sojs are useless if you didnt catch that - and if it wasnt clear enough I will fix that for the final. Also the idea of a +30%/-30% gives me the chills :lol: --- also agreed its expensive to build a good templar :lol: I had to find that one out the hard way. Luckily I have a descent wallet - the only thing I want and Cant get are gcs with life...

    Mr.Glasscock - Glad you liked that quote lol...

    Thanks for the positive comments though and I would like all others to come.

    ::EDIT::

    I would also like to here how much rag hates it :scratch:

    - b
     
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    Ben,

    you might not want to put every stat for every item that you suggest.

    its a little wordy and people tend not to read alot of it. Instead make Hiperlinks or somthing from Diabloii.net or just list the item.

    say y it is good or not good. But dont list each items's stats.

    ITs kinda over kill.

    :lol: can't foh be nullified by 95% lr with decent Absorb? :lol:

    mr. gods.
     
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    People are gonna be lazy either way... Either you put it all there for "convenience" like he did, or you post links; half of everyone will just stop reading cus its too much for them. Its sad, but thats the way the cookie crumbles :cool: I think its great the way it is. Good job! :)
     
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    Wull ****... if they dont wanna learn then why would they read even a Short guide?

    Theres something to think about lol

    Meh why not let them figure out from my words AND their eyes why this item I listed is good.

    - thanks glasscock
     
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    I would really appreciate some words from Rag before I make the final...

    Any other comments would be nice
     
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    strength.. u still play? lol.. i need some items t.t
     
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    Meh just read through for a spell check before I post a final soon and saw the 100% Enhanced damage I posted... lmao... Enhanced DEFENSE more like...

    Final coming soon as soon as I can get Rag to say something about it
     
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    check your PM bud t.t
     
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    i'd also suggest maybe putting the actualy blocking formula. I can't stand reading a "guide" that breaks down essentially to a list of gear.

    at least go through the effort to look up one of the MILLION posts on any of these forums that posts the formula for blocking.

    g

    :howdy:

    otherwise good guide.
     
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    the blocking formula is:

    %to block=(%block on shield+bonus from skill)*(dex-15)/(clvl*2)

    so for a pally using hoz(80% block) with lvl20 holy shield(+35%), he would need 145 dexterity for maxed blocking /w holy shield at lvl99, and 120 dex at lvl80.
     
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    Judge: Thanks for adding. I know it, but there are too many that don't.

    WvX: Also, you may want to note that @ Slvl20 Holy Shield gives a +35% bonus to blocking, and it doesn't raise until:
    slvl23 - 36%
    slvl27 - 37%
    slvl36 - 38%

    g

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    Judge and GV -

    Thanks guys Ill add that info in there.
    Why I forgot... I dont know...

    - b
     
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    From my standpoint FoH is Still easily negated with huge stacked LR, 95 LR, and a t-gods.


    Meh ADD SOME COLOR BEN!
     

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