Teleportation: still have not been invented

lAmebAdger

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Re: Teleportation: still have not been invented

nope, no way, if one man does it, that's already a bit messy, but if many do it, the many bodies would just be weird

i would use the twin brother method, though (the other one), with which you can be in two places at the same time without partly dying...
 

Garbad_the_Weak

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Re: Teleportation: still have not been invented

As your knowledge of physics increases, the likelihood of it all sounding like Harry Potter magic approaches 1.
 

Dirty_Zulu

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Re: Teleportation: still have not been invented

teleportation...

first why do we need to teleport now. we already have communication means to instantly communicate with anyone in the world (earth). why do we need to be there in person. we can now do virtual meetings and interact even in a virtual world with current technology. what's the need for teleportation anymore? (i know teleportation has still some uses, but due to the communication technology we already have we don't really need to move much anymore).
You don't travel much do you? No longer 16 hours flights to enjoy your vacation. The cost of transporting cargo would go down.

On the dark side, anyone who invents teleportation would simply be assassinated by every imaginable company who has a stake in the usual mode of transporation; ie. oil companies, airlines, car manufacturers, etc..



 

phool

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Teleportation = generating a perfect clone and killing the original?
 

lAmebAdger

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Re: Teleportation: still have not been invented

in the movie "the prestige", yes, watch it, if you want a disturbing story about magicians, don't watch it, if you don't like harry potter, like garbad said :D
 

TalimonKhan

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Teleportation = generating a perfect clone and killing the original?
Here is my view on the subject, I strongly believe that some collection of cells in our brain define our existance, where existance = consciousness + memory. Consciousness is existance relative to ourself, and memory is existance relative to others. Given a clone is perfect, then the part of our brain that defines consciousness is a perfect copy, which means the same consciousness will be created. Since it should be clear that our consciousness is what defines us relative to ourself, then if two bodies share the same consciousness, it should be clear that we are talking about a single mind with two bodies. The two bodies will be completely consciousness of each of their environment, every experience is shared, and since it does not make much sense to talk about the limiting speed of information in this sense, one may assume all sorts of tricks to make this work out, such as consciousness being achieved through time travel, or quantum entaglement information travel.

Therefore I believe what you wrote actually equals to saying, create a new body for yourself at the very spot you're going to travel to, while destroying your previous body, with the detail that your new body is exactly the same as your previous.

That's to say it shortly, that it's garanteed that it's the same existance after the teleportation, otherwise it would not be a perfect clone.

in the movie "the prestige", yes, watch it, if you want a disturbing story about magicians, don't watch it, if you don't like harry potter, like garbad said :D
Is it the movie where the villian keeps on getting cloned because he gets assassinated all the time, when we in the end sees what happens when there're two clones?

I believe that these clones where not what you call a perfect clone, and therefore it was actually new existance that was created. Sure the memory was the same, therefore relative to every other person except the previous clone, it was the same person (that's since we do not know what would happen in the future, given if the clone was not made, other decissions could have been made, but there's a whole line of plausible decission any person can make, and therefore it's not possible to find if two persons who share the same memory does not share the same mind, unless we actually can measure consciousness (which I hope we'll soon be able to, as I believe it may be one of the ways to achieve eternal life). Note I'm not talking about quantum randomness here, but assumes that free will exist and is linked to consciousness.

So in short, we should be just as afraid for teleporting, as for talking a walk, since we do not understand how our existance is actually created (life is still a mystery, otherwise we'd have been able to copy its magnificient abilities), we could just as well be a whole new person the very next moment, believing due to memory we were the same person all along, while the true you may be in oblivion.


 

lAmebAdger

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Re: Teleportation: still have not been invented

then if two bodies share the same consciousness, it should be clear that we are talking about a single mind with two bodies.
i think that would be two bodies who share TWO identical minds
from this moment on, the second mind will have a different experience than the first, creating the need to separate them, not look at them as one, like you have done

Is it the movie where the villian keeps on getting cloned because he gets assassinated all the time, when we in the end sees what happens when there're two clones?
nope, that does not seem to be the movie, do a search on it on the imdb website...

we could just as well be a whole new person the very next moment, believing due to memory we were the same person all along, while the true you may be in oblivion.
that would not make a difference. the result is the same: it gets perceived as the same person


 
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