Re: Swineflu - Problem or not?
@Jel
Relative immortality would be nice! There is only one problem: who gets to be immortal and who not?If nobody dies anymore , the worlds population would explode.
I don't think it would be nice to start this debate, as it often gets me to post pages up and pages down of long posts, which I've done in the thread about death penalty. Though to say it short, I'd imagine we'd be able to travel to outer space at that time, and as immortals we'd probably be able to live with lesser requirements than now (though if we're only talking about immortality compared to age, that'd of course not be the case, or immortality in the sense to be able to be revived). However I'm certain space is big enough to hold every single person there may possible exists, though that comes out of an assumption of life being derived through some kind of combination of molecules in the brain, which would have extremely many, but limited combinations, which leads to a limited amount of possible life (until we'd have 2 bodies for one mind, which would simply not be allowed to avoid over population), and as I was trying to write in this post, I believe that space will be large enough to hold the amount of possible combinations of life.
Otherwise I'd imagine time travel could be handy to get more space, though that's actually even more of a long shot. What would also be very nice would be if we'll had the ability to test our ideas, so we wouldn't just make guesses as how the world is, but could actually verify it through test, like many reseachers do, but I'm talking about the possibility for the common man.
Anyway if you're interested in a more in depth explanation of my thoughts, you can read the "TL;DR" posts in this thread here, which I've written, and the whole debate with lAmebAdger:
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719040. I first start participating on the later half of the debate. Read also one of the posts of BobCox2 in that thread, it's really nicely written, much better than I've been able to do. I think it's on one of the last pages.
Though I won't start up in this topic, then if you wish to continue this debate, then I'll suggest we make a seperate topic or that we do it over pm's, though as nothing is off topic here, I think a seperate topic would be best. If not, then I understand :grin:.
Edit: I believe everyone who wants immortality should be able to choose so, that's a part of my personal utopia, and those who don't want it, will always have the freedom to choose it, but isn't forced. However as it goes with the word immortality, if we're talking about true immortality it would be impossible to restore one to mortality otherwise it wouldn't be immortality as no set of actions should be able to kill you, and again that's quite unrealstic high energy as such from the sun is most likely something we'll never be able to defend again and honestly, age immortality and some kind of flexible individual defense system that can protect us against most probable dangers together with the ability to bring those back who've perished is what I really hope for, as eventhough it may sound unrealistic, I do think, if my assumption of life being derived through some combination of molecules in the brain is correct, that it's possible. Again that's assuming our consciousness isn't only unique in defining us, but is unique by itself.
Edit2:
How about any person that wants to be immortal must also be rendered infertile.
My problem with this is, that this will potentially mean that someone never gets to exist, unless we make them in a lab, which would be the same anyway as population then increases, I think everyone who can exist have a right to exist, though it's quite subjective of me I guess.
