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Superdave's Glove Crafting Guide

Discussion in 'Amazon' started by superdave, Apr 6, 2005.

  1. superdave

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    Superdave's Glove Crafting Guide

    Superdaves glove crafting made easy (ya right!)

    Crafted gloves can spawn with very desireable mods....godly gloves would include +2 bow/passive skills +20ias....with possibly leech/resists/stats.

    The two most commonly crafted gloves are hitpower and blood gloves....the formulas for all crafted items can be found at the arreat summit site here....

    http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/crafteditems.shtml (link fixed by moderator)

    The forumla for crafted hitpower gloves is Magic Chain Gloves/Heavy Bracers/Vambraces+Ort Rune+Perfect Sapphire+Any Jewel

    the resulting craft will always have the following mods....KNOCKBACK + 5% Chance To Cast Level 4 Frost Nova When Struck + Attacker Takes Damage of (3-7)

    The formula for crafted blood gloves is Magic Heavy Gloves/Sharkskin Gloves/Vampirebone Gloves + Nef Rune + Perfect Ruby + Any Jewel

    the resulting craft will always have the following mods....Crushing Blow (5-10)% + (1-3)% Life Stolen Per Hit + (10-20) To Life

    At ilvls 71+ the gloves will also have 4 additional mods(affixes)...the maximum # of suffixes OR prefixes that can spawn is 3 so there is a chance of 1 prefix/3 suffixes, 2 prefixes/2 suffixes, 3 prefixes/1 suffix appearing on the glove in addition to the above fixed mods.

    The ilv of the craft is equal to half the lvl of the character(rounded down) + half the ilvl of the magic glove(rounded down)....if the amount is lower than 71 there is a chance of getting only one, two or three additional affixes.
    the input ilvl of the magic glove can be determined by the area it dropped in...for example the pit is an area lvl 85 so gloves dropped by a regular monster will be ilvl 85....champions/bosses/uniques drop at slightly higher lvls in this same area.

    You can also gamble gloves...it is impossible to determine the EXACT ilvl of the magic gloves you gamble because they will vary by -5/+4.

    This is where it may get abit confusing so i will go over a few definitions.

    ilvl is item level
    qlvl is the base item level
    alvl is the affix level...an affix has a set alvl which an item must reach in order to spawn a certain affix(suffix or prefix)
    all items have alvl's which depend on its ilvl and qlvl
    alvl=ilvl-(qlvl/2)

    It is actually the alvl that determines what mods can spawn on the crafted gloves. For anyone interested the actual code for alvl is here.... http://www.diabloii.nu/affixcalc/alvlcalc.html
    (thx for the link thrugg)

    A complete list of affixs that can spawn on gloves follows...this is taken from d2data.net...which seems to have the most up to date info....

    Affix which can be attached to Gloves (Except Magic Only)
    forgive me if the tables get messed i will do my best to sort them out!!



    EDITED: SEE BELOW FOR TABLES



    lvl of items and of the crafter is very important when making a good pair of gloves....you might want to take some time to determine exactly what mods you hope to get on your gloves....then use the proper lvl character to do the crafting....too low and the mods you want cannot spawn....too high and you decrease the chances of the mods you want spawning because there are more mods available to spawn....please do yourself a favour and crunch some numbers....you may have a better chance to craft the gloves you need with a lower lvl char.

    It is interesting to note that "fixed" magical affixes(that come standard on the craft) will stack with regular affixes that may spawn on the glove(life leech for example)...it is also possible to have two procs on hitpower gloves...the fixed 5% Chance To Cast Level 4 Frost Nova When Struck plus one of the above sorc skill procs.

    In all other cases it is only possible for one mod from each group # to spawn...so it is impossible to get a pair of gloves with +3 skills...for instance the +1 fletcher's AND +2 bowyer's prefix.

    To sum up...the maximum alvl of the craft should be kept to 71 or lower...this will prevent the spawning of undesireable charges such as freezing arrow and it will increase your chances of better mods appearing on your craft .....it will also prevent you crafting a pair of gloves with very high character lvl req....it would suck to craft a godly pair of hitpower gloves with a character req of 90+!!!

    rlvl is the lvl required by the character to use the skill and the formula for required level on a crafted item is highest requirement(rlvl) of item and mods + 10 + (3*number of random mods)

    Gloves crafted at lvl 62 will ensure that all nasty charges are removed from the available affixes....but then the ilvl for chain gloves(if you use them) would fall just under the magic # 71 to always get 4 affixes when crafting...instead there is an 80% chance of 3 affixes and only a 20% chance of the maximum(4)...RTB recommends that for bracers and vambraces an ilvl of 81 is best so for gloves found in the pits(from a normal monster mlvl85) a character lvl 58 for chain gloves and 78 for bracers/vambraces is best...the best clvl to gamble chain gloves is 69 and 79 for bracers/vambraces.

    This is an excellent link (when its working) http://www.diabloii.nu/affixcalc/

    any comments/corrections are welcome...superdave

    See post number 32 for tables--Dacar
     
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  2. sorcyone

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    That explains a lot! In 1.09 usin a level 99 char I got sick of making great gloves with level req of 105.

    And I always felt sure gloves made from Chain Gloves never were as good as made from bracers.
     
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    sorry about the formatting on the tables guys i tried editing and it just reverts back to the crappy spacing maybe someone can edit and repost for me??
     
  4. RTB

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    If you're crafting for amazon gloves you only need to worry about the charges of Poison Nova, which is why Ilvl 71 is simply the best. The fact that three amazon charges are removed from the affix pool doesn't affect the odds too much, and for amazons the Clvl reqs of those charges are much lower than for other characters.

    For nicely aligned tables you need to use code blocks.
     
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    hmm.....good point...any idea how to calculate the clvl req for the gloves when one of these zon specific charges spawn? freezing arrow would be a nasty suffix to have spawn if the gloves were to be used by a non zon char....code blocks? hopefully someone can help...d2data.net's tables were laid out so well before i got ahold of them
     
  6. Dacar92

    Dacar92 Community, Amazon, DH Moderator & Inc Clan Officer

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    Nice write up, Dave. If you want help with formatting, send me an e-mail with the tables formatted the way you want them to show up here. I will do that (as close as I can) for you. I need to sit down and really read it, instead of skimming it (at work now) so I will do that tonight. My e-mail is in my public profile. Use the Yahoo please.
     
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    It's a column in magicprefix.txt and magicsuffix.txt.
    Code:
    Suffix		Clvl req for Amazons
    of Fire Arrows		3
    of Inner Sight		5
    of Cold Arrows		9
    of Power Strike		9
    of Multiple Shot	12
    of Exploding Arrow	17
    of Charged Strike	21
    of Ice Arrow		22
    of Lightning Strike	32
    of Freezing Arrows	33
    In the case of Poison Nova charges it's Clvl req 30 for necros.

    That's shopping (gambling has a too variable Ilvl for good results). Btw, from Mlvl 86 and 87 monsters the optimal Clvl is one lower than from Mlvl 85 monsters.

    Have fun with the tables Dacar92.
     
  8. superdave

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    rtb...thx for the table...i tried searching for that today with absolutely no luck

    dacar...the tables can be found at www.d2data.net in the glove section under prefixes and suffixes for ver 1.10
    i can't link directly to it....if you can't find them i will email them to you tonight....just lmk
     
  9. Dacar92

    Dacar92 Community, Amazon, DH Moderator & Inc Clan Officer

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    Tell me what you think of the tables. It is a start. We just have to fix the alignments now. Is that what you had in mind? :)
     
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    just a few things...the defense table and the amazon boost tables should be separate and there is a spelling mistake in the durablity table...if the alignment was tweeked i think we are almost there....thx alot dacar
     
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    I don't know of any website that lists them.

    Clicky for direct link to glove affixes.

    A small hint for Dacar92:
    Use tabs instead of spaces. Makes aligning them a lot easier.
     
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    Great guide ! I have 2 questions :

    1. How etheral influence crafts ? does the etheral item have different ilvl then its normal counterpart ?

    2. I know we can use non-identified gloves in crafting, is there any advantage/disadvantage in this case ?

    Thx ! :thumbsup: :clap:
     
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    ilvl should be the same...when crafting all properties on the glove are destroyed...pretty sure even the eth property...its been so long since i tried experimenting with an eth glove that i can't remember the result

    no...but why would you do this anyways? my luck i would use a pair that would id to be +3/20ias
     
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    It's not used at all and also removed when crafting.

    No difference.
     
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    hey dacar...i see you have started to tweak the alignment in the tables...let me know when you are done and i will repost with the suggestions and corrections rtb made...thx again
     
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    Thanks for inpspiring me to craft. Thanks to you, I now have these babies:

    They're the 3rd or 4th ones down.
    Linky

    Nice guide.
     
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    lol i just popped in to ooggle them before i checked out the zon forum...maybe its time i figured out how to post screens i have quite a few hitpowers that i could show off!
     
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    ok have read this up and intend to craft a blood glove. Say my char is lvl 71 now, and i want to have a attrib of + bow/xbow skill, IAS, mana leech, is it possible?

    If i use vampire glove to craft, where should i get the glove, from pit? or gambling using lvl 79 char? thanks
     
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    it is always best to get your gloves from a know lvl(or shopped)...that way you will be able to calculate the ilvl of the craft with accuracy...if the ilvl of the craft is >71 you have a 100% chance of getting 4 additional affixes.

    the ilvl of the craft = half the lvl of the character(rounded down) + half the ilvl of the magic glove(rounded down)

    the ilvl of gambled gloves can vary by -5/+4 of your lvl

    yes you can craft gloves with ml, skills and ias
     
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    Thanks dave for your prompt reply.

    the ilvl of the craft = half the lvl of the character(rounded down) + half the ilvl of the magic glove(rounded down)

    the second part: half the ilvl of the magic glove(rounded down), how do i get this figure say if it is a vampirebone gloves?

    btw is vampirebone gloves qlvl 63?
     

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