Strongest, most versatile, Pubbie PVP dueller. (BM is OK)

[Punkonjunk]

Strongest, most versatile, Pubbie PVP dueller. (BM is OK)

Well... I'd like to get into the duelling scene, I've always stayed away from it in D2. I'd like something with a high PvP capability against many classes - Not a speciallized dueler. Also, BM is fine, if that still exists.

I was thinking FoHer, because they used to piss me off really really bad. Thats about all I could come up with. I'd really like to be able to piss people off, but I'd like to be able to kill them more. Input would be appreciated.

 

[Calcipher]

Back in the day when I played I made an Auradin. Very good at pissing people off, and they look neat. Downside is that they're really expensive. But, very fun build (it's cool going around and letting auras do all the work).

 

[WhiteAlien]

Well, if you go to PvP arena, then everything is expensive. The most effective, most cheap and the most overpowered BM build are well known hammerdins. Even with crap gear you will do insane dmg.
The next most BM build are trapers as very often they tend to lay traps near the town and nk all.
Good fb or blizzard sorc is good too.

 

[McCain123]

If you want to go BM duelling than forget about fire,cold and lightning. All can be next to nullified with the right gear. Poison is to slow, so go for physical or magical damage.

Hammerdin, Elemental druid, Zealot and Smiter should work best.

 

[Klæmint Vágadal]

Ahh yes, the ongoing battle to see what is the best Pub PVP build :grin: I had a BvC on B.Net, he did pretty good.

 

[Punkonjunk]

Hammerdins bore the living crap out of me. I can not express enough how much I don't like hammerdins. Ele druid is not the same as a windy? Zealot/smiter interests me. I've pretty much invested points where any zealot would have, I may try that. I'll find a guide later - But I'd still like more input.

EDIT
Also, best build for absolutely ruining hammerdins specifically?
Also, how viable is a desynch charger? Like, the stuff for desynch wouldn't be outrageously expensive, right?

 

[rata]

Hammerdins bore the living crap out of me. I can not express enough how much I don't like hammerdins. Ele druid is not the same as a windy? Zealot/smiter interests me. I've pretty much invested points where any zealot would have, I may try that. I'll find a guide later - But I'd still like more input.

EDIT
Also, best build for absolutely ruining hammerdins specifically?
Also, how viable is a desynch charger? Like, the stuff for desynch wouldn't be outrageously expensive, right?

actually i'm trying a hammerdim and windy for pvp rite now. my lite sorc, fire sorc and java zon are elegant...but why not a hammerdim? sorc are boring me now, and unless i use far cast (which i will not) sorbers are always a problem with my zon. i find hammerdims challenging to play well

 

[McCain123]

Ele druid is not the same as a windy?

Windy is what I meant.

 

[Ouallada]

Seriously, look no further than a hdin. No one BMs better with fewer gear switches, while maintaining high unresistable damage. They may be boring, but they are the best at BMing, and that was all that you asked for.

 

[Punkonjunk]

I agree that they would be the best BM - but I did specifically ask for something that wasn't them. I wouldn't mind a bit more information for comparative purposes.

Again, how about a Desynch Charger? Or anything Desynch? Desync was just coming into common knowledge when I quit, and I wasn't PvPing too much then, anyway. It would seem logical that desyncing would be about the most BM thing possible in D2, because it prevents visibility completely. A charger seems like the coolest character to do this with.

 

[Ouallada]

Well, the thing about BM duelling is that it is only BM if you win. Getting killed will only result in you getting NKed ad infinitum. The point about BMing is to win by any means necessary, taking whatever shortcuts, drinking whatever potions and swapping whatever gear.

Well, anything that moves fast enough without teleporting can desynch. It is not really BM, just using the game dynamics to gain an advantage. BM is generally taken to be something done specifically to negate a certain build, or something dishonourable like juving.

 

[McCain123]

But it is hard to deal enough damage with a Charger. Every dueller that deserves this name will have max block and damage reduction. Better build a Zealer or Smiter with 1 point in Charge. Fana is popular with these builds so charging arround with Fana on should soon get you desynchonized.

 

[Punkonjunk]

That makes sense. Even if you COULD do enough damage to one hit KO someone with charge (and I don't think that would be possible with even the godliest gear) they would usually block 3/4ths of the time, right?

 

[McCain123]

If they are not running arround ( read : if they are real duellers ), then yes. Your best bet to beat your enemy number one ( XXXGODLY_HAMMORZZZXXX ) is probably a Windy. Even with godly gear they are only average in PVM, but PVP they have their chances against all sorts of builds.

 

[jakotaco]

If you want to charge around but not making a hammerdin then a Grief wielding Smiter is a good choise. Packs a powerful charge and an unblockable smite that deals high dmg, and they can typically tank enough damage to go for the kill. (I hate meeting these guys in pubs)

Another character that at least deserves being mentioned is the Bone necro. Considered relatively easy to play but yet has a lot of tricks to master. Also being irresistable damage, and then you have spells as bone prison, decrepify and bone armor to keep them from doing anything to you.

 

[Sechler]

If you’re going to be dueling primarily in pubs, then ur original idea of foh is not a bad one. Very easy to operate, and if you use charge for mobility, almost impossible to catch. Aim for 9k dmg with high conviction and you can wear down a lot of stacked chars. Every now and then you’ll run into a 200 light res stacked char, but it won’t be often in pubs. You could take it a step further and make a t/v and carry a grief around with you for a little less dmg, but have a decent smite and charge that’ll hurt.

 

[mephiztophelez]

Also, how viable is a desynch charger? Like, the stuff for desynch wouldn't be outrageously expensive, right?

the probem chargers have is: it's all or nothing. either the charge comes off and the opponent drops dead from, at most, two hits. or you die horribly in the attempt.

Even if you COULD do enough damage to one hit KO someone with charge (and I don't think that would be possible with even the godliest gear)

i have a charge/smite pally thats fun to play, he usually gets around with hoz/grief. but i keep an e-death decapitator in the stash for playing sillybuggers. the LCS lists 22k as max damage, then factor in 95% deadly strike (one day i'll figure out the damage properly). i've dropped 6k life barbs in one hit before. but mind you, i've died horribly from mistiming a charge and copping a faceful of ww'in grief on many, many, many other occasions.

back to the topic at hand, from your preferences, can i suggest a Griz set fister? fill the sockets with lit-facets. few pub duellers will have stacked another ~50%-60% over and above conviction penalties.

i rekon you could piss a lot of people off with such a build.

 

[Lyrs]

i'll go with the lvl 8 char. it's strength is seriously hacked.

 

[mystified]

same idea as mephiz, but I'd go with blizz.
how many of pub duellers stack on minimum 300 + cold res?
don't need too high fcr. Grab a doom. blizz in front of town. nk all. (doom get -60, minimum 5 from helm, another 5 from armor minimum, use 75% blck with stormshield give another 5 slot, plus a lot of + skills = -res and dmg that says stay away unless you are sorbing + stacking)
even the godliest of BvC gets kills at least once, as they need to figure out what sorc uses.
..of course you get nked after. a lot

 

[Moritz]

welfare boners do well too with great bm potential