I think with the mods of Harmony, it is not one of the better bows for dealing physical damage. However with that caveat; you are getting nice amounts of elemental damage and mana regeneration to keep going. I will post more later in a new thread since Harmony is not a great bow for strafe or multishot.
Strafe zon hel survivability for cheap
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HCTwinJava
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Yes and no.ramian said:
Yes if this is done properly. For example, on top of my head: my latest sorc, 75 base str, uses spirit monarch full time (156 str req). One of my pallies, 82 base str, used UP'ed HoZ (142 str). My latest javazon, 95 base str, used SS for a while (156 str). My latest pally, 60 base str, is wearing GA (118 str).
No, if more than 1 str item is required and if it's not done properly. You'll have to experiment a little bit. suiciding in Norm is a best way to verify, I think. But just exiting and joining/rejoining a game can help you discover potential
problems.
If you find you can't wear something when joing a game, you'll definitely have a body pop problem if ever your char dies - in this case, here is what I have been doing -
try to add str items until you find the minimal str you need to get back all your gear on (say it's 110). The difference between this str and your char's initial str when joining the game (say it was 97) is likely (not always) what you'll need to avoid body pop on death = 110-97 = 13 str. Repeat exit/join a few times with differenent initial str, until you find the max str that would cause a gear wearing problem when joining a game (say, it's 92). 1 plus that max str (= 92 + 1= 93) is the minimal str that your char has to have to wear entire gear without a problem. If your char has only base str = 82, you'll need to permanently give him 93 - 82 = 11 EXTRA str items.
[the following is not what I actually do, tho I guess you could try - only if you don't care about death] After that, you perhaps could try a suicidal on Norm diff to finally confirm this minimal str. If not enough, you'll need more str.
By the above experimentation, I was able to get my 75 str sorc to wear 156 str item by shuffling her gear until the right combo was found - her actual in-game str is always more than 156, otherwise some of her gear would appear to be "popped up" when she joins a game. Well, whether or not she would have a pop on death is not known yet - that's why you'd better do a quick verify.
Hope the above is helpful enough.
YogiRat
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minor hijack
Anyway I must beg to differ about Harmony being a great strafer bow. But we can discuss that on your anxiously awaited new thread. Welcome back!
Hey didn't you post here a lot in the old days before the wipe? IIRC you were pretty sharp on spearies. You and, and, (yogi lapses into his grandpa Simpson mode)Linus_P said:
Anyway I must beg to differ about Harmony being a great strafer bow. But we can discuss that on your anxiously awaited new thread. Welcome back!
citybird
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add more points to straif. I dont know if you noticed or not but 6 points in strafe only gives you +30% on top of 3/4 of your weapon damage. If you want more damage max it and use +skill items. each skill point is another 5% of damage.
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/amazon-bow.shtml#strafe (source)
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/amazon-bow.shtml#strafe (source)
I have been reading in certain places (TAB and here) that some people put points into strafe until 6 just for the 10 targets. Doesn't the damage boost of 100% ed at lvl 20 help or could those points be of better use elsewhere? This is ofcourse taking into consideration that I don't have any +skill whatsoever.
thanks!
thanks!
well, if your a pure strafer where else would you be putting points, its doenst take much, valk, strafe, penetrate thats 60, critical strike can be maxed but...also can be achieve thru gear choices and reached diminishing returns quickly, even if you go with another skill, elemental FA plus ice synergy that is 100 points for all maxed, or you can go LF and thats 80, I jumped into post last so didnt read if this is hardcore, so you may need passives higher than base, but generally speaking strafer is a build that has extra pointsramian said:
I'm well into my zon already... she's at lvl83 and doing relatively better than what she used to be. She was able to solo hell diablo. But she's having problems in Act5. At the moment, all she can survive is Shenk and Eldritch (which I farm for mf). She's able to do pits without any problem, so it's all good there.
The only problem is completing quests in hell act5 and probably killing baal himself. 1 shot from gloams and she just drops dead. Same goes for all those ranged monsters in the frigid highlands... they just shoot too fast and too hard for her to survive. Even the merc has better survivability than her. So far, I've only had to reserruct the merc when the zon dies. Her fire and lightning resists are positive while cold and poison are neg.
Are her survivability problems due to her lack of resists?
thanks!
The only problem is completing quests in hell act5 and probably killing baal himself. 1 shot from gloams and she just drops dead. Same goes for all those ranged monsters in the frigid highlands... they just shoot too fast and too hard for her to survive. Even the merc has better survivability than her. So far, I've only had to reserruct the merc when the zon dies. Her fire and lightning resists are positive while cold and poison are neg.
Are her survivability problems due to her lack of resists?
thanks!
YogiRat
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I'm afraid that is your problem. Your fire and lightning resists should be maxed or close to it. No matter how skilled you are at using decoy, slow missiles ,even if you run like the wind, you going to get hit by them
IMO absorb is even better than resist. For A5 I would swap out my razortail for Tgods and wear a Dwarfstar. The lack of pierce was not missed compared to the alternative
IMO absorb is even better than resist. For A5 I would swap out my razortail for Tgods and wear a Dwarfstar. The lack of pierce was not missed compared to the alternative