Stormshield vs Homunculus Threat

[w-igor]

Stormshield vs Homunculus Threat

which one and when to use ?

more precise version of my question: i have pvp max block bone nec using spirit vs casters. i need shield vs melee. of course i can use both... but not at the same time, so - when i should use homun? when i should use ss? you have any good ideas how i can socket those shields?

thanks in advance,
wig-else

 

[Gotcha]

Forget Homo, go with SS. Vs melee there is a huge difference when getting hit with a melle attack and having 43 - 50% PDR vs. only 8% from your enigma. With 43 - 50% PDR you will be able to tank a little and not worry about that WW getting through BA and then clipping most of your life. The extra + skills from Homo after PVP penalty is not an issue and SS is a much better option IMO. Just get a barb to do some WW clipping and test them. You will see the light after that.

As for what to socket SS with I would say Eld, Ber or cham will help only against windy's but can be somewhat useful.

Good luck.

 

[w-igor]

thx Gotcha.

anyone here, who thinks homun is better ANYWHERE ?

and about socketing SS - eld is better than ko in ss ?

 

[Imbecile]

Stormshield for sure, I guess you will need a circlet/tiara/coronet/diadem with 20 fcr, to hit 125% fcr bp, while using storm. Socketing your storm with a Ber rune would be a good idea.

 

[SicHalo]

Vs any mele type char the stormshield is superior, sure u get skill with the homun but like mentioned u will have serious dr problems and vs say a mele or bow ama or something u will die fairly fast as once bone armour is broken it would be almost near instant death without the stormshield.


Also eld is the better socketing compared to ko due to the fact it wil help u save on dex points needed to block.

 

[w-igor]

one more question:

vs windy, you would prefer to use 125fcr + Spirit or 75fcr + Storm ? cause theres no way for me to get storm + 125fcr. too poor atm.

 

[morotsjos]

one more question:

vs windy, you would prefer to use 125fcr + Spirit or 75fcr + Storm ? cause theres no way for me to get storm + 125fcr. too poor atm.

spirit, 125fcr, shako (ber if you can afford), dungos, 1 raven. if druid catches you you're dead meat, storm or not.

 

[Gotcha]

Easiest way to get 125% FCR with SS is using a whiz spike which is IMO the most overlooked weapon for a necro.

Whizzy = 50%
Gloves = 20% your choice between 2
2 10% FCR rings with other useful mods = 20%
Spidy belt = 20%
Circlet with 2/20%

Leaves ammy spot open and can be swaped out if you get a godly ammy.

It is also true that if a real good windy catches you you will be dead but there are many average windy's out there and or "don't get caught"

If you are going all vita then spirit is your shield. Also switch spirit with SS for preferred duels.

SS/Max block/PDR gives you a hellava lotta help for any melee build even great barbs and with real great tweeked gear you can get in the 2700 - 3000 life range with Max block/PDR/125% FCR without any of the realm specific dupes and you will also get stacked resists with Whizzy while doing in the 4400 damage range which is plenty in PVP.

Just my thoughts

 

[w-igor]

thanks.
for now i have one ring and ammy slot full - i use 20str ring and 30str anny cause of no anni and no final-gear.

i used eld'd SS a bit today, and its good thats my idea...
vs melee: SS
vs casters: Spirit
vs all: homu

looks good now ? and also i was thinking about using homun vs FoHers. what do you think about it ?

 

[Gotcha]

vs FOH'RS you really need to stack lightning resists to 325, etc. I use 4 topaz shield (my helm, rings, etc. all have light resists on them) with small charms for this purpose. I am sure others may have other ideas on this but I am a stacking guru on my necro. The key is to hit the 125% FCR without the shield so you can switch shields in as needed. Well that also is IMO LOL:flip:

 

[morotsjos]

SS/Max block/PDR gives you a hellava lotta help for any melee build even great barbs and with real great tweeked gear you can get in the 2700 - 3000 life range with Max block/PDR/125% FCR without any of the realm specific dupes and you will also get stacked resists with Whizzy while doing in the 4400 damage range which is plenty in PVP.

Just my thoughts

please tell me what gear and charlevel you use to get 3k life or even 2.7k with maxblock/dr/125/86.

 

[Gotcha]

please tell me what gear and charlevel you use to get 3k life or even 2.7k with maxblock/dr/125/86.

Circlet 2/30%FRW/20% FCR, 12% CR,FR,PR 47LR socketed with shael (20% FHR)
Whizzy 50% FCR/socketed with 15/7 jewel (7% FHR)
bloodfists 30% FHR/40 Life (30% FHR)
Rare ring 10% FCR with str/dex and mana (helps get max block)
Rare ring 10% FCR life and mana
Spidy belt 20% FCR
Rare Boots 30% FRW/10% FHR tri resists
Stormshield socketed with Eld
Enigma
Ammy (crafted) 2 nec skills/17% FCR nothing else helpful on it.
Anni/Torch
4 small charms with 5% FHR and the rest 20 life/mana small charms
life/mana small charms can be switched out for more resists if needed.
9 skill lifers all in the 40's

Stats Max block with SS, 86% FHR, 125% FCR 43% PDR. & Nice stacked resists.
This is current setup
Chr lvl 94
with BO life = 2764, max resists stacked, 1214 mana spear 4197 - 4415
spirit 4350 - 4640 teeth - 916-1157

With items on including SS stats will read:
Str = 190
Dex = 206
Vitality = 393
Energy = 65

If you want to get close to 3000 you need to switch out circlet for a +3/2 os and shael the circlet with 2 shaels and tweek the small charms with 4 more 20 lifers instead of 5% FHR charms and also switch to a better FCR ring with around 40 life which I do not have. This will add in the 100 - 120 range and get you close to that 3000, but then I loose that great 30% FRW and resists I get of my godly circlet so for now that is my current setup

This chr has no realm specific duped items and is on ladder

That should do it.

 

[morotsjos]

Circlet 2/30%FRW/20% FCR, 12% CR,FR,PR 47LR socketed with shael (20% FHR)
Whizzy 50% FCR/socketed with 15/7 jewel (7% FHR)
bloodfists 30% FHR/40 Life (30% FHR)
Rare ring 10% FCR with str/dex and mana (helps get max block)
Rare ring 10% FCR life and mana
Spidy belt 20% FCR
Rare Boots 30% FRW/10% FHR tri resists
Stormshield socketed with Eld
Enigma
Ammy (crafted) 2 nec skills/17% FCR nothing else helpful on it.
Anni/Torch
4 small charms with 5% FHR and the rest 20 life/mana small charms
life/mana small charms can be switched out for more resists if needed.
9 skill lifers all in the 40's

Stats Max block with SS, 86% FHR, 125% FCR 43% PDR. & Nice stacked resists.
This is current setup
Chr lvl 94
with BO life = 2764, max resists stacked, 1214 mana spear 4197 - 4415
spirit 4350 - 4640 teeth - 916-1157

With items on including SS stats will read:
Str = 190
Dex = 206
Vitality = 393
Energy = 65

If you want to get close to 3000 you need to switch out circlet for a +3/2 os and shael the circlet with 2 shaels and tweek the small charms with 4 more 20 lifers instead of 5% FHR charms and also switch to a better FCR ring with around 40 life which I do not have. This will add in the 100 - 120 range and get you close to that 3000, but then I loose that great 30% FRW and resists I get of my godly circlet so for now that is my current setup

This chr has no realm specific duped items and is on ladder

That should do it.

thanks for useful info. btw which chars except druids is the frw useful against?

 

[Arbedark]

thanks for useful info. btw which chars except druids is the frw useful against?

Sins.

Walking out of stunlock is easier than teleing out in most cases.

 

[Gotcha]

So very true.

I just can't get myself to use the 3/20/2os shael-shael circlet over the one I currently use for the tweeking and extra 250 life. The circlet also has 19 str on it which helps me with leaving str at base. With a good 34+ life FCR ring over my 14 lifer I will hit 2800 life with stacked resists about 35 - 40 deep on poison and fire and much higher light and cold. Yet for the cold stacking you will still need a 4 socket shield and of coarse switching all smalls out for 10 - 11% cold/20 lifers.