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stone vs unique armour

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by SM17H, Apr 8, 2004.

  1. SM17H

    SM17H Banned

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    stone vs unique armour

    i was just after an opinion from anyone as to what unique armours are better than the stone runeword in a sacred armour?

    Edit: sorry i forgot to mention its for a conc barb
     
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    i was thinking maybe an upgraded atma's wail?

    Atma's Wail
    Embossed Plate
    622-789 Defense
    55 Durability
    125 Str Required
    Medium Armor
    Item Level: 59
    Clvl req: 51
    +15 to Dexterity
    +10 Replenish Life
    +15% Mana
    30% Faster Hit Recovery
    +2 Defense per clvl
    +50 Increased Durability
    +120-160% Enhanced Defense
    +20% Better chance of getting magical item

    what would the defence get to when i upgrade it? than i'l get plus 2 def per character level (maybe 150 odd).. stone still looks a little better to me..

    maybe a spirit keeper?
     
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    Stone is about as good as it gets if you don't want DR.
     
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    DR = Damage Reduction??

    im not to familiar with the short terms :)
     
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    Yes it's damage reduced by x%, but I'm pretty sure Stone is about as good as it gets, you have insane armor, some resists and some stas bonuses.
     
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    Yup, I think stone does have the highest def enhancement (220-260%) right? So in a sacred plate, it gives you 1920-2160 def.

    I think possible an Arkaine's valor or a Leviathan might just edge it out. Arkaine has a little more than 1449def (cos of +2 to shout/IS) and it gives double the life. Leviathan has 1772 def, gives a lot more str and has good damage reduction too. Plus it has a small advantage of being indestructible. Ever tried to repair a superior runeword sacred amour? :lol:

    Guess it depends on the overall style of play. Stone is very good for a conc barb after all.
     
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    Well, repairing a regular stone sacred armor will be expensive too, but you don't have to repair 60 durability too often - you should be able to find ral runes often enough.

    A perfect stone sacred armor hits 2434 defense. 15% Superior + 290% ED from the runeword nets you 305% ED. A perfect sacred armor is 601 defense (all the guides are off by 1).

    4.05 * 601 = 2434
     
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    You didn't mention how badass barbs look in a levi :) Reminds me of the hulk!
     
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    If you want to go pure high def, a eth steel carapace is good, with over 2600 def, and self repair.

    However the mods on it are only okay at best, so if you can make a stone, go for it.
     
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    SM17H, stone is the best for a conc barb in my opinion.
    it has everything a melee defense driven char needs.... check out the mods!
     
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    stone is awesome, but I'd make a "gloom" the resist never hurts, nice defense, the dim vision is a nice touch, and a bit of FHR. If you dont need resists, go with stone
     
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    but with the gloom it has half freeze duration which i wont need because of ravenfrost.. im not familiar with dim vision, it sounds pretty crappy though.. i dont need the mana really so all it has on offer for me is 30 extra resistances (which is pretty good). stone on the other hand has a good deal more def, 50% extra FHR, 300 extra def vs missles and 16 vitality which adds up to a fair bit of life when BO is used..

    couldnt i make up the resistances with p/diamonds in my shield helm and armour?
     
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    pDiamonds can only be used on shield for resist. u'll need um for helms. i'd say go with stone. be ready for high repair cost though.
     
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    will the repair costs still be huge if i only make it in a normal armour and not a superior?
     
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    The costs will be lower, but probably still pretty pricy.

    Diamonds in your armor and helmet won't do quite what you want them to. ;)
     
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    BO only boost your life(base life & +life items) not +vit items
    Stone gives you more defense & more fhr, but IMO +30 resist all are harder to find than FHR & defense items
    still, if you dont need the resists, stone is the way to go
     
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    yer but doesnt 16 vit = 32 life and than BO makes it 60 or so (which isnt huge anyway).

    and yer i forgot about the diamonds, i thought they worked on armour and helm :(

    i actually do have a resistance problem..

    my end game gear will be:

    Arreats
    Highlords Wrath
    Stormlash hopefully
    Stormshield
    Laying of Hands
    Gore Riders
    Vendengos (sp) or String of Ears
    Ravenfrost

    i dont have many resistance charms..

    i have a ring slot free that i dont know what im gonna use, are there any huge resistance rings available?

    do u think i will have enough resistances with this gear? (if i used stone instead of gloom)
     
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    Well you can Um the SS and the Arreats for resists, whack some points in Nat. Resists and see how you go.
     
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    yer that sounds like a pretty good idea.. but i think i'l struggle to find 2 more Um runes :(

    i forgot about the nat resists though.. i have 1 point in it at the moment (lvl 5 with + gear) and i should have some points to use when i max my mastery

    do u think i'l get enough?
     
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    if you are using arreats and ss and you have points into natural resist, well i say put onli one point, then you should be good.

    Stone all the way!!
     

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