State Secret: Thousands Secretly Sterilized

llad12

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State Secret: Thousands Secretly Sterilized

Has anybody else heard about this?

N.C. Woman Among 65,000 Sterilized by Gov't., Often Without Their Knowledge, in 20th Century

May. 15, 2005 - Beneath the surface of this Southern town, with its lush evergreens and winding riverbanks, is a largely forgotten legacy of pain, secrecy and human indignity.

"My heart still bleeds, and it will forever bleed, because of what had happened to me," local resident Elaine Riddick said.

Riddick was one of thousands of people secretly sterilized by the state between 1929 and 1974.

From the early 1900s to the 1970s, some 65,000 men and women were sterilized in this country, many without their knowledge, as part of a government eugenics program to keep so-called undesirables from reproducing.

"The procedures that were done here were done to poor folks," said Steven Selden, professor at the University of Maryland. "They were thought to be poor because they had bad genes or bad inheritance, if you will. And so they would be the focus of the sterilization."

Sterilized Without Her Knowledge

Riddick was raped and became pregnant at the age of 13. Social workers labeled her promiscuous and too feeble-minded to ever be a responsible parent. So, after giving birth in 1968, Riddick was sterilized without being told.

She learned the truth years later, when she married and tried to have more children.

"They took so much away from me," Riddick said. "They took away my spirit and my soul."

North Carolina sterilized close to 8,000 women in hospitals across the state.

Even though the practice ended more than 30 years ago, some say the time has come to make amends. North Carolina was one of the first states out of 33 that once practiced sterilization to offer an apology. State Rep. Larry Womble is crafting a bill to provide financial reparations.

Some wonder where the state will get the money. "They say, 'Well, we can't afford it,' " said Womble, a Democrat. "Well, we cannot not afford it."

Riddick went on to earn a college degree and raise the son she had at 14. He now is an engineering consultant.

"I thank you, God, for giving me my child," she said.
ABC News

I don't know what to say ... :(
 

Christor

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That's pretty scary...


Makes me wonder what else our wonderful government could do to us without our knowledge...
 

dirkdig

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sucks to be her...
and sucks to be me, since it's my tax dollars going to my irresponsible state that did such an atrocious thing long before I was born or had any ancestors living there. I'm going to have to pay for my sucky government's flaws.
 

Necrolestes

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Words fail me

I know what to say: despicable. I wish I could say that I was surprised by this but after the whole Iraq war debacle and the political maneuverings of Tom DeLay, it has become painfully apparent that the US government does not often act in the people's best interests but instead in the interests of "the greater good".

How noble of our government to "protect" us from ourselves, hmm?
 

SquareRootOfBob

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This happened from 1929-1974, and this isn't the first time I've heard of it. Why is it getting so much attention all of a sudden?
 

Moosashi

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This isn't the first time anyone's heard of it, and it wasn't all that secret to begin with. Social Darwinism was at its height during that time and evolutionary biology was being abused to support all kinds of social injustices (often with the support of most Americans, so don't go blaming the Man on this one). Eugenics had some prominent proponents in the scientific community during the height of its popularity, but fortunately its scientific foundations did not stand up to scrutiny and were debunked. It is no longer supported by evolutionary biologists and the whole idea is rather taboo actually.
 

Steel_Avatar

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At the same time that we now find this appalling, I cannot be angry with those who performed such acts. They acted within the ethical codes and science of their time, and while we would never sanction such acts now, back then it was okay.
 

jmervyn

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SquareRootOfBob said:
This happened from 1929-1974, and this isn't the first time I've heard of it. Why is it getting so much attention all of a sudden?
Because it was Bush's fault, of course :)

I'd heard of it, but not that it was in any way a Fed program but rather individual state gov't decisions. I had the impression that it was usually performed (as mentioned) on 'undesireables', including criminals, handicapped, and retarded individuals. Still doesn't make it excusable since as Moo mentions the science didn't add up.

If you want to get outraged about the travails of the Fed Gov't, check out the early nuclear testing. Using our own soldiers as guinea pigs near blasts just to see what might happen...
 

Lostprophet

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Steel_Avatar said:
At the same time that we now find this appalling, I cannot be angry with those who performed such acts. They acted within the ethical codes and science of their time, and while we would never sanction such acts now, back then it was okay.
Steel, isn't there any place that you'll draw any sort of line? The people doing it had to know that what they were doing was wrong on some level, even if someone above them was telling them to do it. The "Shrug, back then it was okay" defense is defeatist. Yeah, I can't be angry at someone who raped women back then either, because back then it was okay to consider women property and therefore their "ethical code" allowed it.

The point is that there are some things worth getting angry about. Forced sterilization of another human being by our own freaking government is one of them.
 
I've heard of this before, a few years ago, and yes, words really can't express the inhumanity and sheer sense of disgust I feel knowing that it happened under the same flag I now salute.
 

nrabbit

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yup i have heard about this. about the question how they do it without the persons knowledge it is easy. they call them and they tell them that it is a regular check or something like that and there you go
 

Anakha1

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This is nothing new. In the early 20th century, the American government sterilized thousands of people, not just women, due to various defects. The most affected were mentally retarded people or people with physical defects in order to "cleanse" the population. ABC may be presenting this as an obscure fact, but it's actually been known by a lot of people for a very long time.
 

Freemason

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I've heard of this before but now I have to question it's legitimacy. I have lost all faith in the "mainstream" media.

Who are their sources?
Can their documentation be proven to not be forged?

It's a sad state of affairs when everything they report is suspect.
 
Freemason said:
I've heard of this before but now I have to question it's legitimacy. I have lost all faith in the "mainstream" media.

Who are their sources?
Can their documentation be proven to not be forged?

It's a sad state of affairs when everything they report is suspect.
Hurry, someone find an article by Ann Coulter about it so Smeg can believe it!
 

ScanMan

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llad12 said:
Has anybody else heard about this?

ABC News

I don't know what to say ... :(
This is the first you've ever heard of this? I thought you, of all people, would be more informed about something like this.

Here's another hot scoop for you...google the "Tuskegee Experiment".
 

llad12

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ScanMan said:
This is the first you've ever heard of this? I thought you, of all people, would be more informed about something like this.
Nah, they kept us in the dark in my Early Pre-Cambrian school. You have to remember we didn't have personal computers ... or CNN ... or MSNBC ... or Fox. In fact, there were three television stations on the old B&W TVs. Cable didn't exist. :p Heck, in my Oklahoma history class, they didn't even discuss the Tulsa Race Riots.

I guess with all the Jim Crow laws in effect at that time, it just didn't seem important enough to discuss sterilization procedures on unsuspecting people.

Propaganda was heavy in schools in those days. America never made a mistake in the history books. We had never lost a war. And the Indians? No problem --> manifest destiny.

We were the good guys.

High school and College was a real wakeup call for me. But I didn't hear about this stuff. There was SE Asian war dominating the headlines ... Draft ... Black Power marches ... Stokely C., Malcom X, MLK, ... Women's rights ... ERA ... Peace Movements ... Demonstrations ... Riots


Personally, I still have trouble accepting that this kind of stuff still went on into 1974 --> my late college years.

Eugenics? That was something the Third Reich did ....


Pathetic ... it reminds me of the 19th century antebellum days when people were property.

What a disgrace.
 
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