Star Trek XI - is XI pronounced "AIIIIIEEEE"? if

Sokar Rostau

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jmervyn said:
Star Trek XI - is XI pronounced "AIIIIIEEEE"?
One thing that bothered me about this whole idea was that Kirk's version of the Enterprise is very distinctively 60's chic. I remember seeing an episode, or one of the films, where Captain Picard is looking at pictures or scale models of every version of the Enterprise and while they all had the familiar overall design, Kirk's stood out in the mix like the proverbial dog's hind leg.

Movie goers like special effects and seeing, especially in franchises, something new and cool. I think using the original Enterprise design from the 60s could be considered box office suicide. So maybe whoever it was that mentioned the possibility of a reimagining came close to the mark. This is what brought me to the answer the question posed by jmerv in the thread title:

The number nine in French is neuf, which is pronounced nerf, therefore Star Trek: Nerf.



EDIT: Crap, I misread. There's 10 Star Trek movies already? OMFG kill this dead horse already.
 

Machina

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I had hoped they'd learnt their lesson with Enterprise when it came to going backwards in the Trek time line. Let alone going back to characters made famous by other actors.

I will watch it because it's a Trek film, but I will do so wishing all the while that they had made a new crew and set it in the future of the Trek time line, when things are far more interesting. That's my opinion anyway.

I prefer the series to the films anyway.
 

Amra

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They should have just pumped more creative energy in the Enterprise TV show. That had potential and was very good at first. Then they let it slide.:cry:
 

bg1256

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Star Trek doesn't suck.

If JJ Abrams is at the helm, it's bound to be entertaining, if nothing else.
 

pip boy

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I had hoped they'd learnt their lesson with Enterprise when it came to going backwards in the Trek time line
It wasnt the whole going backwards thing that was the issue.

Enterprise just sucked, full stop.


It had a bloody stupid time traveling story, and some of the characters where just unlikable/cardboard.

Worst of all it tried to do a continual story, and because it was complicated/boring/crap you just didnt bother to watch it once you'd missed an episode.



 

Machina

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It wasnt the whole going backwards thing that was the issue.

Enterprise just sucked, full stop.


It had a bloody stupid time traveling story, and some of the characters where just unlikable/cardboard.

Worst of all it tried to do a continual story, and because it was complicated/boring/crap you just didnt bother to watch it once you'd missed an episode.
For me it really was the going backwards thing. Some of the story arcs were pretty good - I liked the weapon arc for exmaple, although even that did contain a few boring episodes. But it had nothing to do with Trek cannon and completely lacked continuity with other Star Treks. That was what really spoilt it for me.

The ship was also too dull - as were the uniforms, the technology and that dreadful title music.



 

jmervyn

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It had a bloody stupid time traveling story, and some of the characters where just unlikable/cardboard.
I wondered if it was just me. I've been trying... I just watched an episode where Borg were found in the Arctic, and I was wondering how they could write this one off successfully (the Borg being first encountered by Picard, IIRC).

Plus, Jolene Blaloc is scary in real life. Catsuits do not a series make.

Worst of all it tried to do a continual story, and because it was complicated/boring/crap you just didnt bother to watch it once you'd missed an episode.
Well, at least that explains some of it. They were probably trying to mimic B5...



 

pip boy

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. . . or Deep Space 9.
DS9's story was rather simple though, Feds Vs mighty morphing rangers, opps.

Enterprises story didnt make much sense if you missed several episodes, which ive always done and never had a problem, with other series. I can peice together the story, but i just couldn't be arsed to watch it because it wasnt that great.



 

Dondrei

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I know I've posted it before, but still the authoritative word on this issue.

This reboot idea has been around at least since Star Trek VI, in fact they were planning to make Star Trek VI about Kirk and Spock in the academy together for quite a while before coming to their senses and making an immensely better movie. I see that the idea has finally borne fruit, how awful. Please hurry up and hit the cinemas, flop and die.

website said:
The best films in the franchise thus far - Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and Star Trek: First Contact - have all been even numbered films while the odd number films have all been a bit naff or, well, odd - especially the real clunker that was Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
Okay, clearly the person who made this site was insane. And Star Trek IV is purely for camp value.

Ok, so if you (as in you all) were doing the casting, what current actors* would you pick for the main roles?
Kirk, Spock, & Bones, bonus points for Scotty, and the rest of the bridge crew.

*current actor - meaning that they must have stared in a movie/TV show and still be alive and kicking. (no dead actors or no names)
I would choose Nobody McNoone.

Well there's always hope. The recent spate of "back to the roots" re-imaginings (Batman begins, Casino Royale, Battlestar Galactica) have actually been pretty decent, so there's hope that they will do this one right.
You exaggerate.

Besides, I think Star Trek: Nemesis broke the "odd-even" trek movie curse.
I checked to see which number that atrocious movie was, for a moment I thought you were actually saying it was good.

P.S. The whole odd/even thing is garbage:

1) Debatable, very different kind of thing to the others though
2) Superb
3) Underappreciated, suffers a bit from the inevitable comparison to Wrath, but I think it's a pretty darn good movie
4) Only good from an ultimate-80s-movie camp perspective
5) A true shocker, no doubt about it
6) Excellent
7) Dross
8) Just awful
9) Forgettable, kind of like a long episode of the series rather than a movie, at least it was more or less true to the spirit of Generations though. Not a shocker, just underwhelming
10) Unspeakable

Although perhaps it isn't fair to include the Next Gen movies, they all suck.

The ship was also too dull - as were the uniforms, the technology and that dreadful title music.
Speaking of dreadful title music... the new Battlestar, OMG...



 

Gorny

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The Borg ended up in the Arctic after Picard torpedoed them in ST: First Contact, parts of the Borg Sphere ended up falling to Earth, so them being found in the Arctic is plausible.
 

jmervyn

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The Borg ended up in the Arctic after Picard torpedoed them in ST: First Contact, parts of the Borg Sphere ended up falling to Earth, so them being found in the Arctic is plausible.
Fine, but that still doesn't excuse the abominable looping failures. If you pull something like this, you better be as careful as Zemeckis with "Back to the Future".

I didn't have much respect for TNG in that vein either, to say nothing of all the holodeck garbage.



 

Gorny

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Bah. Back to The Future screwed up too.

When old man Biff went back intime, he could not have returned to the "future" that he left, he would have returned to the future of the timeline he created.
 

jmervyn

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Bah. Back to The Future screwed up too.

When old man Biff went back intime, he could not have returned to the "future" that he left, he would have returned to the future of the timeline he created.
Which episode was that? I mainly meant the first one, and I don't even recall if Zemeckis directed the rest.



 

Ash Housewares

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Ok, so if you (as in you all) were doing the casting, what current actors* would you pick for the main roles?
Kirk, Spock, & Bones, bonus points for Scotty, and the rest of the bridge crew.
that would be casting a remake, and I would sooner jump off a bridge



 
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