Star Trek: Dominion and Borg

Gorny

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Re: Star Trek: Dominion and Borg

In every movie/series time travel works differently.
I stopped hurting my head trying to figure it all out, and just accept the explenation they gave per movie/serie, even though wrong.
^^

The perfect explanation for how old man Biff travelled back in time to 1955, gave the almanac to his younger self and then managed to travel forward to the 2015 that he left from in the first place. He would have come to the future of the timeline he created.



 

Dawnmaster

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^^

The perfect explanation for how old man Biff travelled back in time to 1955, gave the almanac to his younger self and then managed to travel forward to the 2015 that he left from in the first place. He would have come to the future of the timeline he created.
Actually, I just saw the extra's and deleted scenes yesterday of all tree movies, and a fan asked what was up with that.

So they showed a delete scene where you see old man Biff arriving in the future, only to vanish exactly like Marty partially did in the first movie because they both altered history.
(the background for his vanishing is that his wife shot him some time between 1985 and 2015, no longer being able to live with the pig, so Biff no longer existed in the future)

The future doesn't seem to change instantly though, rather it adapts slowly over time (else Marty would have vanished instantly when he instead of his father got hit by the car, rather we see the picture changing little bit by bit)



 

stillman

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Why didn't the borg just 'adapt' to the pathogens and if that didn't work, quarentine some of their collony to avoid a spread?

And didn't Janeway break the prime directive by giving away overly sophisticated weaponry to a life form who hadn't developed it yet? (Even though the life form was her own, it still sounds advanced and they shouldn't have access to it until they develop it by themselves with the technology at hand.)
 

Gorny

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Why didn't the borg just 'adapt' to the pathogens and if that didn't work, quarentine some of their collony to avoid a spread?

And didn't Janeway break the prime directive by giving away overly sophisticated weaponry to a life form who hadn't developed it yet? (Even though the life form was her own, it still sounds advanced and they shouldn't have access to it until they develop it by themselves with the technology at hand.)

Yeah Old Janeway did break the TPD, though she cited "Family" as the reason.

Also I thought about the Back to The Future paradox as well, they still screw up a bit in the storyline even with the slow vanishing explanation and Biff's being shot. The catch was that in Back to the Future II, Doc stated in response to Marty that if they travelled forward and attempted to stop Biff from going back in time, they would only arrive in the future of the altered timeline. Getting back to The Borg, they may have adapted but the damage was done at the source so to speak.

Who knows...



 

Amra

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Time travel makes my head explode.

I had forgotten all that stuff about Voyager.
 

stillman

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I read the 'alpha' link (the description of the last episode of Voyager). It looks like they really went out with a bang. I remember losing interest in the show because it seemed a little too sissy and politically correct about every action the crew took. Compare this with old Kurk taking life or death risks and walking away with a bloody nose each episode, and Voyager just wasn't my cup of tea. But gosh, it looks like they changed by the end.

I thought Voyager was much better than Deep Space Nine which seemed to contain mostly freaky aliens and not enough humans. Adronema (spelling?) was just very teen-oriented and seemed to jam in alot of senseless action with the crew killing masses of enemy gaurds almost for sheer fun. I kind of forgot about Star Trek for a while, but I'm getting interested again with the new movie coming out.

I think the ending of Voyager was maybe a little too much of a happy ending. It seems Janeway committed atrocities, and for what? 16 years shaved off or whatever. 22 lives or whatever. Man, that's so selfish. I also still have a problem with the borg going down so easily. Why is it that Janeway is allowed to give herself advanced technology from the future, but the borg can't? Couldn't the borg do essentially the same thing (go back in time and give themselves all their latest weaponry)? The Q didn't interfere with Janeway's time travel, so I guess they're indifferent.

And what about the love triangle thing with Seven of Nine, The Doctor, and Chakotay. It seems like that was just droped and forgoten about, at least acording to what I read. And, the borg queen said since Admiral Janeway was going to die, that means she can't be around to use time travel and make this all happen. So what happened there? The borg queen would know what she's talking about, you would think.

In the first season or two I watched, there were some 5 episodes I remember where the holodeck put everyone's lives in danger. They should have taken a sledge hammer to the holodeck. Also, in one episode, Janeway could have had a child with Q and he would have taken them all home in a second, but she said no, so...how determined is Janeway to get home, really? She and Q would just have to touch finger tips to reproduce, but she thought that was too idk, easy or something. These sorts of things bothered me about the show. And, there was an episode where there were two Janeways and one of them blew up the other Voyager to take out a massive enemy ship. The last episode is basically the same thing all over again. Two Janeway's, one sacrifices herself to wipe out the enemy, etc.

I suppose whenever time travel is involved it turns the whole show upside down. Then again, it's Star Trek so anything goes and it has to have time travel. Oh well, thanks for reading my little essay.
 
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Gorny

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Maybe they will wrap up the loose strinds in the Voyager Movie.

(Not that there is one planned or anything but since Next Gen is done it is possible somewhere down the line.)
 

BobCox2

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Dom Deluise


Yours?


There is still a copy of Dom inside Michael Shanks, Chris Judge, Amanda Tapping, and Richard Dean Anderson's brains. He's just dormant
Cross reference this .
It's the universe next door they have to worry about breaking through to.
I LOVE GUMBY.

But everything Dies.


 
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Dawnmaster

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Cross reference this .
It's the universe next door they have to worry about breaking through to.
I LOVE GUMBY.

But everything Dies.
That episode is like somany others from that show: godly :alright:

And the actor by itself is now a legend.



 
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