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Staff instead of weapon/shield viable?

Discussion in 'Sorceress' started by Tron, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. Tron

    Tron IncGamers Member

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    Staff instead of weapon/shield viable?

    Do you think a sorc using a staff would be viable in hell? I know I could really use the +5 skills on Mang Song's Lesson. However, I would be facing other troubles like not having fcr possibly resitances, or even blocking as good as a orb/shield! By viable, I mostly mean can use as often as orb/shield.

    My original plan was to make a solid blizzard sorc using Ondal's to level, while using say a wizardspike and double PDiamond moser's. I wanted to use SS, but it is a little extreme to dump all those points into str/dex. My friend made a meteorb sorc with SS and wizardspike as main mostly for mephing purposes. It works great too, but then again moat trick isn't too hard to pull off. I do like the 35 PDR but it isn't required for a sorc I know.

    So my main question is, would it be worth it to try and use a staff for the +1 skill extra, or to sacrifice that for blocking power?

    (For Reference Purposes)
    Ondal's Wisdom
    Elder Staff

    Two-Hand Damage: 80 To 93 (86.5 Avg)
    Required Level: 66
    Required Strength: 44
    Required Dexterity: 37
    Durability: 35
    Base Weapon Speed: [0]
    +2-4 To All Skills (varies)
    +45% Faster Cast Rate
    +450-550 Defense (varies)
    +40-50 To Energy (varies)
    Magic Damage Reduced by 5-8 (varies)
    +5% To Experience Gained
    +50% Damage To Undead

    Mang Song's Lesson
    Archon Staff

    Two-Hand Damage: 83 To 99 (91 Avg)
    Required Level: 82
    Required Strength: 34
    Durability: 26
    Base Weapon Speed: [10]
    +5 To All Skills
    +30% Faster Cast Rate
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Lightning Resistances (varies)
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Cold Resistances (varies)
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Fire Resistances (varies)
    Regenerate Mana 10%
    +50% Damage To Undead

    Pretty good staves I must say.
     
  2. mathil

    mathil IncGamers Member

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    the main loss isn't blocking. the main loss is resistances. both staves are good, but the general consensus here is that the staffs need a few more stats to be worth using. ie: block, res. inferno and a few other fire skills being an exception. a leaf staff can be the best weapon for some fire sorcs.

    also: staves look cooler.
     
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    Zarhrezz IncGamers Member

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    Both my Energy Shield sorcs have not used anything but staves, both Matriarchs (SP). I'd say staff sorc is viable.
     
  4. Blazing Mary

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    I am not sure if I agree with Mathil about Staffs and resistances. I have Mang Song's Lesson (+5 to skills) and my resistances in Hell are pretty bad. However, with Eschuta's Temper and Lidless Wall I don't get any more resistance. So, for me, it really doesn't make a difference

    Eschuta's Temper
    Eldritch Orb
    One-Hand Damage: 18 To 50 (34 Avg)
    Required Level: 72
    Durability: 30
    Base Weapon Speed: [-10]
    (Sorceress Only)
    +1-3 To Sorceress Skill Levels (varies)
    +40% Faster Cast Rate
    +10-20% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
    +10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
    +20-30 To Energy (varies)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Lidless Wall
    Grim Shield
    Defense: 271-347 (varies)(Base Defense: 50-150)
    Required Level: 41
    Required Strength: 58
    Chance to Block: Pal: 50%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 45%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 40%
    Durability: 40
    Paladin Smite Damage: 14 To 20
    +80-130% Enhanced Defense (varies)
    +1 To All Skills
    Increase Maximum Mana 10%
    20% Faster Cast Rate
    +3-5 To Mana After Each Kill (varies)
    +10 To Energy
    +1 To Light Radius
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)


    Mang Song's Lesson
    Archon Staff
    Two-Hand Damage: 83 To 99 (91 Avg)
    Required Level: 82
    Required Strength: 34
    Durability: 26
    Base Weapon Speed: [10]
    +5 To All Skills
    +30% Faster Cast Rate
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Lightning Resistances (varies)
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Cold Resistances (varies)
    -(7-15)% To Enemy Fire Resistances (varies)
    Regenerate Mana 10%
    +50% Damage To Undead
    (Ladder Only)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)
     
  5. mathil

    mathil IncGamers Member

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    in that case, you dont' get any res from your wep/shield, but you could. socket the shield with a pdiamond. its cheap and its 19 all res. you don't have that option with a staff.

    although i personally never take advantage of sockets, most ppl do and thus it should be mentioned.
     
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    If you have a tanking mercenary go with mang song's, it's pretty awesome!
     
  7. Superhal

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    sure anything can work in hell with patience. you probably won't survive long if you are directly attacked though. also, i think tp'ing through a level would be bad news too.

    in the energy shield thread, there might be a way to do it with enough ES.
     

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