Spirit or SS ?

[hysys]

Spirit or SS ?

I really don't know.

I have a meteorb with full tr + ss. But I am a bit short in mana (no SoJ) so I see Spirit as a good choice but I lose the DR.

Any advice from the expert ?

 

[sasja]

If you've already pumped str and dex for the ss, it would be a waste not to use it, and it's fantastic for survivability. I won't give mine up, at least

If you need more mana than tal's already gives you, think about mana charms or if you're really dry, frosties.

 

[TriForce]

I'd say make your merc the new RW that gives him a medi-aura (if you're using a2 merc that is). My lad sorc also uses full tr + ss and with like 450 mana she has never uses a manapot anymore since my merc got his lvl 17 medi aura. It's just sick. If you do have sojs, cta and nice charms you should be able to teleport for almost forever.

 

[formularon]

Question is it possible to find a superior Monarch with increased chance to block? If that is possible then Spirit would be a great substitute for SS. Even with Str and Dex for SS you would still have about 50% block with the Spirit. I thinks this makes thye Spirit a viable option for fast MF runs where the monsters are less difficult, i.e. Pits, Andy, Countess, Mephisto. I think i will still take my SS when I visit Baals house though.

 

[melianor]

In short:
SS = Blocking Shield
Spirit = NOT BLocking Shield

How can you guys seriously justify to go around with 50% chance to block? Either all block or all Vita and thats it. Spirit is certainly a shield for a Vitality build and not for blocking. The increased chance of blocking would at least have to boost blocking to 60%, unless you will have to invest 300 Dex (!!!) to reach max-block.

Spirit already says for itself for whta bild thise shield willbe useful. It has +22 Vitality. So use it for a Vitality build and dont waste alot of dex to just get 50% chance to block. 75% means you get hit 1 time out of 4. 50% means you get hier 2 times out of 4, and seen across a wider range of hits this is ALOT!

75% : 100 hits, 25 get through
50%: 100 hits, 50 get through just from the propability view.

 

[formularon]

I agree with the point it is a all the time vita build shield. However when doing MF in areas with weaker monsters the lack of block can easily be offset by the killing power. I have never worried about dieing in Pits, Mephisto, Andy, etc. My only concern is to minimize time of run thus maximize number of runs. With the added mana and life I think it can really speed runs up despite the increased hits taken. The other item is the FCR it adds, this helps to make 105(117) and still allow use of chancies thereby increasing overall MF.

Weak monsters: Spirit = max runs & MF
Strong monsters: Spirit = dead

IMHO. :xrollseye

 

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

Lmao the question always had been Lidless or SS...

- Dennis :xman:

 

[Sartok]

Hey! My 200FCR fire sorc has max block with a lidless... it can be done :xmad:


:xfrosty:

 

[Stormcryer]

Well I don't know about the usefulness vs non-usefulness....vit vs block......lidless vs spirit (BTW I haven't used a lidless since teh old 1.09 days)...spirit vs SS vs Upped Vicser......


I just haven't invested the time..so far..to fully investigate.

WHAT I DO KNOW is that I've made a minor fortune in the last three nights.

Here' the scenario...

Doin rune runs against the countess, regular MF runs against the pits, andy, the Big D and meph. Total runs ( a series of one each of teh above) about 50. -- been taking my time

Total monarchs found 7. Investment in prubies, tals, and amns 7 each to socket the shields.

TOTAL YIELD from trading channels...4 MAL, 3 Pul, 2 ist, 3 UM.
I think I'm gonna create a special mule to hold a few spirits, lawbringers, obedeince, and maybe a destruction or two.

They should be worth a great deal on the non-ladder when the ladder resets.

BTW Goning to make up a vit sorc (Probable FBORB) to see how well the spirit has ...er ...well ...spirit.

Cheers!

Storm

 

[Sartok]

I have begun the same thing.. theyre so easy to get a hold of.. but people pay so much... I love it!