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Spell Synergy question

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by NickaliskTrent, May 19, 2008.

  1. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

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    Spell Synergy question

    Are spell synergies affected by +skill items?
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    No. Only hard points will act as synergies.

    In patch 1.10 (only) there is a bug which allows charges to be synergies if no points are placed in that skill. Also called the "Marrowwalk bug".
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    No!!! "carrion wind bug"!!! gogo super rabies :grin:


     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    Marrow bug doesnt work in current patch though correct?

    Anyways.. Certain skills like the druids summons get synergized from +skill items in addition to hard points.
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    1.11 or 1.11b fixed the bug. And yes, there are some skills that synergize even with soft points (from +skills): all masteries (Necromancer GM/SM/SR, Sorceress CM/FM/LM, Barbarian Masteries, Assassin Weapon Block and Claw Mastery, Druid Lycanthropy), certain summon spells (like the aforementioned Druid summons, not sure about necro golems), the Prayer aura and it's derivatives Cleansing and Meditaion (those 2 skills get the +healing synergy from Prayer, even from the soft points).
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    Don't confuse synergies with skills that directly affect other skills. Prayer is the synergy exception. Masteries are not synergies, and as such are not an exception.



     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    AFAIK, from the above, only Prayer gives a synergy, the others give passive bonuses (masteries).


     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    Yes, I know a difference between a mastery and a synergy. However, most masteries work in such a way that they "synergize" related skills. Am I not right? Fire Mastery increases Fire Ball damage, as does it's synergy Fire Bolt. Thus, Fire Mastery can partly be defined as a "synergy".
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    The difference is that Lightning/Fire Mastery and +% cold dmg apply multiplicatively with synergy boni. Thus, they are applied at a different time than synergies, thus cannot be defined as synergy at all.
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    EDIT: I think I misread Alecz's post.

    Re. synergy/mastery - sure, you can define a mastery as "a synergy which affects any skill of a particular type (as opposed to a fixed list of skills), is increased by soft skill points, and may be applied in a different way or order than other bonuses". Heck, with the right definition of synergy, you could call fanaticism an "actively used synergy". But in my opinion, all of that makes a whole lot less sense then dividing them in masteries and synergies.

    And seriously: claw block synergizes what?
     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    Synergizes... claws? :scratch: (just kidding btw)


     
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    Re: Spell Synergy question

    This information was very useful to me regardless of the way a synergy is defined. Thank you very much ProfessionalBerg. Although it might contain minor misinformation that a very informed player might pick up on, to people like myself and very likely the original poster, it is much needed information.


     

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