SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

[someoneNew]

SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

I've got her setup this way for now:
-Kira's (Um)
-Treachery (Wire Fleece)
-LoH
-Razortail
-War Travs
-WF (Jewel 15% IAS/+24 LR)
-Cat's Eye
-Carrion Wind Ring
-Rare Ring (+12 Dex, Resist All +7) Looking for a better one of these...

-max resists in Hell (with many charms + Kira's)
-120 IAS (which I understand hits one of the better BPs for WF)

Gear/Skill Thoughts:
Anyone think there is a better option than Kira's?
It doesn't have +Skills or IAS, but it does have CBF (freeing up a ring slot) and +79 RA.

Should I change my gloves?
I do have some rare gloves with +20 IAS and +2 Passive/Magic skills (but I'll lose the damage to Demons from LoH), better to stay with LoH? Keep in mind I have no +skill items (my only charm is for Jav skills), so if I need these skill points in the Bow/Xbow tree perhaps I should forgo LoH for these rare gloves to help me in the Passive/Magic tree?

This build has no +skill items (a first for me) so if this is indeed end game gear for me I need to really be careful with my skill points.

I have 2 Grand Charms, each with +120 something AR and cheesy second mods (+4 Dex or +6 Life).
Are these a waste of space in my inventory?

Stat Thoughts:
I do not know of any other items I may need that will require me to dump more points in Strength (110). So can I dump the remaining 51 into Dex, and all new points into Dex?

clvl 83

Stats (Naked):
Unused = 21
Str: 124
Dex: 225
Vit: 120
En: 15

Skills:
Unused = 13
Jav/Speak skill tree:
None

Passive/Magic skill tree:
Critical Strike = 8
Penetrate = 1
Pierce = 5
Dodge = 12
Avoid = 1
Evade = 1
Inner Sight = 1
Slow Missiles = 1
Decoy = 1
Valk = 10

Bow/XBow skill tree:
Magic Arrow = 1
Fire Arrow = 1
Cold Arrow = 1
Multiple Shot = 9
Strafe = 6
Ice Arrow = 1
Guided Arrow = 20
Freezing Arrow = 1

I feel my damage isn't overpowering in Hell (players1) but I can clear monsters in decent speed. My AR isn't great (74%).

I don't have enough points to bump all the skills the way I'd like, and I have no +skill items either (first build this has happened).

Where would you dump the stats/skills if this was your build?

 

[slayer37]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

I'm a fan of round numbers so I'd recommend 4 more in CS (~60%), 1 more in MS, 4 more in strafe and then dump into Penetrate. Your AR isn't great right? That's because strafe/multi don't give any AR boost so you need to get Penetrate higher if you lack AR gear. Also, I'm a big fan of Valk so get it also as high as you can.

Regarding the gloves, I'd stick with LoH. 350%ED is no laughing matter... just ask all those act bosses and occasional demons you run into. :grin:

 

[illestkhmai]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

If the only reason you're wearing a kira's is to free up a ring slot for that pretty crappy rare ring, then take it off. A ravenfrost also offers CBF and is loads better than that ring. Andy's visage would be a nice replacement.

 

[someoneNew]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

Thanks slayer37 I'll take that into careful consideration.

I'm actually using the Kira's for the massive resists I get, the CBF is an added bonus.I really don't need to leech any more mana or life after the Carrion Wind / WF leeching.
Basically I don't know if the leech from Andy's outweighs the resists from Kiras...

 

[crawlingdeadman]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

who needs resists on a bowazon? honestly the dex and the ar from a raven are worth more than the res from the kira's. if you need resists on your zon, you should instead become comfortable killing everything without even seeing it on your screen.

+skills do next to nothing for bowas unless they're mage like builds.

your skill placement is all over the place. max strafe and a few more into multi as suggested above. what's with all the dodge?

 

[slayer37]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

your skill placement is all over the place. max strafe and a few more into multi as suggested above. what's with all the dodge?

Dodge is IMO wasted investment too but it is already there.



@ someoneNew

Bowas don't usually engage in melee range. If they get close, you run and reposition again. If you have godly damage, they won't even have the chance to get close. Put in some KB and you're basically untouchable with merc/valk also taking the heat for you.

The Valk does get the benefit of those points in Dodge and she is always in melee situations so those 11 wasted points are not so bad.

 

[someoneNew]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

This build used to be an early 1.09 burrito cannon MFer, I've repurposed her so I'm using what stats she had back in the day (max GA and Dodge, etc).

I'll put on dual Ravens and see how that goes.

If I don't need Kira's what do I look for in a helm?
I don't believe I need more leach (except for if I lose the Carrion Wind) or IAS.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

there are several excelent helms for bowazons. tal helm, vampgaze, andy's, but nothing beats steelskull for a mf bowa. it's got dual leech, mf, ias, all good things. if you get your leech from your hat you can then use a raven and an mf ring instead of a leech ring.

my mf zon uses:
skulders
steelskull
highlords/cat's eye
faith (or whatever big bow you're going to use)
20ias/knock back (or LoH, i prefer knockback somewhere, but you'll have wf so LoH is best for you)
razortail
raven/mf ring
wartravs

switch can be something to deal with physical immunes. harmony, wws, javs (if you went the cs/lf rout), demon limb for enchant prebuff... lots of options.

 

[someoneNew]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

She's not an MFer, I just wanted to finish hell with an old character that's previous 1.09 sole purpose was to MF Mephy... plus I had a WF laying around too.

What does KB stand for?

I'm going to change my helmet to a Vampgaze and put on dual RFrosts.

Yesterday I attempted the Ancients and had a hard time, two of them didn't even key off my merc or Valk, I had to quit out. I'll try again with my new gear, any advice for dealing with the Ancients?

 

[crawlingdeadman]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

kb=knock back

if the ancients are giving you a really hard time, you can just use a tp and they'll reset. place a decoy right next to one before they spawn. if they continually ignore everything and go for you, keep trying decoy and/or moving valk around.

 

[KremBanan]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

What does KB stand for?

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[crawlingdeadman]

Re: SP PVM Bowazon, clvl83, what to do with unused skill/stats?

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you wish.